VN Ren'Py Abandoned Sins of the Father [v0.8.1] [Kaffekop]

[Kaffekop]

Oh MAN... @Kaffekop are you saying that the Butler did it?? I was SURE that all the clues meant that it was Professor Plum in the Library with the lead pipe. Drat, this game has been RUINED for me now. Stupid Butler..

Um, about the only thing that I would ask to be changed would be a slightly better walkthrough (I like to have a good idea of how to get particular ladies). The last update ended well for me after seeing some spoilers (and a little cheating from me).

TY for the game, stay just crazy enough to keep working on it, and DON'T shoot messengers. It's more fun to poke them repeatedly with POINTY sticks.

Just a thought.

Oh dear I did spoil that, didn't I ... bad developer, bad developer

I don't do walkthroughs. I don't believe in them, however I can see that @K9 is doing a really good job so far. Very fine work indeed.

Cheers - Kaffekop

 

[MrDL]

First off, thank you for giving this project a spin.
I do agree with you about incest and I know that some have felt let down by what is happening in the story at this point, but this is the horror of making these projects in incremental updates and not just releasing a finished product. You only get to play these incremental updates and that may leave much time to speculate about things between updates.

I will say this again: This is part of the story and not something that has been pushed to stay on Patreon. If I'm put under review some day, I'll find another place for my project because I'm not changing my story to accomodate anyone.
The same goes for those that have tried to get me to change the narrative to get the story in line with what they think it should be about or be like - not going to happen.
If people happen to like what I'm making then I am a lucky developer indeed, and if not well then ... tough luck.

I'm generally not willing to give away spoilers as to what is to come. I for one hate to be told that the butler did it, when I turn to page 60 in a novel.
I will however say this, and I've said it before in another post (I think. My mind may be playing tricks on me): There is incest in this project.

The real issue here is, I think, that most people pick up any of these VN's, games, whatever and think that they know what is going to happen. This is of course our fault as developers, because we have created a precedence of what is to be expected in a VN and when something throws us off, then many have a tendency to get annoyed or taken aback.

I hope I'm not coming off as being gruff or anything like that. It' is not my intent.

Cheers - Kaffekop

Having brought up authors caving to pressure to alter their plans at the demand of the more vocal portion of their audience leading to hurting their game and the story they've planned to the point where the author starts to lose interest before, I respect this.


That said...

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[Rythan25]

God damn it this update made me want to restart the whole game, and not waste my time with the older sister... The Mom comes clean with her secret, she rages, and goes to get Blacked by the local thug ? Fuck her sideways ! I am just gonna be team mom and Marsha after I replay it, she's dead to me...

 

[Kaffekop]

@MrDL I do hope you understand that I'm not going to respond to the speculation, but it's so nice see that mye readers are indeed speculating about what might happen and how things are connected. It gives me great pleasure to see this.

Cheers - Kaffekop

 

[MrDL]

@MrDL I do hope you understand that I'm not going to respond to the speculation, but it's so nice see that mye readers are indeed speculating about what might happen and how things are connected. It gives me great pleasure to see this.

Cheers - Kaffekop

Of course.

 

[UncleVT]

Renpy really needs more save slots for this game

Ren'Py has unlimited save slots.

 

[K9]

Um, about the only thing that I would ask to be changed would be a slightly better walkthrough (I like to have a good idea of how to get particular ladies)

There's a FAQ at the end of the walkthrough with linear guides on how to get every lady, except the ones in the family that are very clearly explained in the walkthrough itself. And there's a line on the first page of the walkthrough telling that this FAQ is here, and its purpose. I also used colors to make sure every important point was clearly visible.

I can't make it clearer than that, I'm afraid. If you have suggestions, feel free to lay them on me.

Do keep in mind, however, that I try to keep the walkthrough as short and to the point as possible. Explaining everything in detail instead of trying to condensate it in sentences that have to be simple, short, and comprehensive would actually be much easier and much less work for me, but then you'd have to read a thesis instead of a walkthrough, and it wouldn't be very legible on a mobile device operated with only one hand...

I also don't want to spoil the scenes by explaining what happens in the walkthrough itself. I tell how to get the scenes and with whom, but not what the scenes themselves exactly are if I can help it.

I don't do walkthroughs. I don't believe in them, however I can see that @K9 is doing a really good job so far. Very fine work indeed.

Why, thank you. But seeing how much you like to complexify your game and the tiny adjustements one needs to find to see some scenes, at some point it will become impossible for a player to find everything. You will have to either make an official walkthrough or deal with people asking you many times the same questions and getting frustated of not finding things.

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[ZagorTeNay]

Guessing there is some kind of

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One question though: Are relationships

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[Kaffekop]

Guessing there is some kind of

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One question though: Are relationships

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Nothing is "locked" as such. That is partly what energies are for when he grows into his own power.
You might have noticed, that if you take advantage of Jo then later at the pool, if you have enough energy stored you can regain the lost trust with her at that point.
That effect should have had en outcome in this version but stupid me forgot to add it! Reminds me to never go all in when I build the game while I am on full pain medication. Things can get rather blurry from time to time.
Well, I'll just have to add it into the next version.

Cheers - Kaffekop

 

[Kaffekop]

@K9
You can't, I'm embarrassed to say. You should have been able to, but I forgot to add the incest choice with Jo if you did not take advantage of her when she was drunk. Too doped when I was building some of the game, I suppose.
Well, as our protagonist says: There are more movie nights to come. And the choice will be added into the next version instead.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers - Kaffekop

 

[Foreigner10]

First off, thank you for giving this project a spin.
I do agree with you about incest and I know that some have felt let down by what is happening in the story at this point, but this is the horror of making these projects in incremental updates and not just releasing a finished product. You only get to play these incremental updates and that may leave much time to speculate about things between updates.

I will say this again: This is part of the story and not something that has been pushed to stay on Patreon. If I'm put under review some day, I'll find another place for my project because I'm not changing my story to accomodate anyone.
The same goes for those that have tried to get me to change the narrative to get the story in line with what they think it should be about or be like - not going to happen.
If people happen to like what I'm making then I am a lucky developer indeed, and if not well then ... tough luck.

I'm generally not willing to give away spoilers as to what is to come. I for one hate to be told that the butler did it, when I turn to page 60 in a novel.
I will however say this, and I've said it before in another post (I think. My mind may be playing tricks on me): There is incest in this project.

The real issue here is, I think, that most people pick up any of these VN's, games, whatever and think that they know what is going to happen. This is of course our fault as developers, because we have created a precedence of what is to be expected in a VN and when something throws us off, then many have a tendency to get annoyed or taken aback.

I hope I'm not coming off as being gruff or anything like that. It' is not my intent.

Cheers - Kaffekop

I apologize, if I expressed myself in a rude way, it's just that, many games that supposedly would have this incest theme, are using this artifice of adopted children, or friends of biological parents, in which the biologic parents have already died, and this has become mass in this type of game. But I had no intention of pushing, or anything like that, it was just a general opinion about games that pass on the idea of incest and then ends up not being part of the game indeed.

 

[K9]

@Kaffekop All right, thanks for the answer. Guess that'll teach me not to check in the code if I have missed something before posting the walkthrough.

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[Shiva0067]

-Fake- End game spoiler -Fake-

I have DICOVERED how the game will end. My method included a bottle of Whisk(e)y and THREE Raspberry Donuts, but I insist that this MUST be the truth.

Just before we solve ALL the problems in the world with our AWESOME sexual powers we will wake up and discover that we are actually... A SQUIRREL that lives in the MC's back yard and fell out of a tree causing us to have a hallucination. Yep, we are playing the sex dreams of a Squirrel, and if you don't believe me you can ask my pet rock cause it was there when an Earthworm told me.

-End of FAKE news spoiler-

Just an EVIL silly thought.

 

[MrDL]

-Fake- End game spoiler -Fake-

I have DICOVERED how the game will end. My method included a bottle of Whisk(e)y and THREE Raspberry Donuts, but I insist that this MUST be the truth.

Just before we solve ALL the problems in the world with our AWESOME sexual powers we will wake up and discover that we are actually... A SQUIRREL that lives in the MC's back yard and fell out of a tree causing us to have a hallucination. Yep, we are playing the sex dreams of a Squirrel, and if you don't believe me you can ask my pet rock cause it was there when an Earthworm told me.

-End of FAKE news spoiler-

Just an EVIL silly thought.

A brain damaged squirrel with a voyeur fetish?

 

[K9]

Walkthrough updated. Definitive version for 0.6, at least until the hotfix if there's one.

 

[flagwork]

"Incest" tag is bullshit. The lady is not his real mother.

 

[Mytez]

"Incest" tag is bullshit. The lady is not his real mother.

Jo is his real sister.

 

[K9]

"Incest" tag is bullshit. The lady is not his real mother.

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[flagwork]

First off, thank you for giving this project a spin.
I do agree with you about incest and I know that some have felt let down by what is happening in the story at this point, but this is the horror of making these projects in incremental updates and not just releasing a finished product. You only get to play these incremental updates and that may leave much time to speculate about things between updates.

I will say this again: This is part of the story and not something that has been pushed to stay on Patreon. If I'm put under review some day, I'll find another place for my project because I'm not changing my story to accomodate anyone.
The same goes for those that have tried to get me to change the narrative to get the story in line with what they think it should be about or be like - not going to happen.
If people happen to like what I'm making then I am a lucky developer indeed, and if not well then ... tough luck.

I'm generally not willing to give away spoilers as to what is to come. I for one hate to be told that the butler did it, when I turn to page 60 in a novel.
I will however say this, and I've said it before in another post (I think. My mind may be playing tricks on me): There is incest in this project.

The real issue here is, I think, that most people pick up any of these VN's, games, whatever and think that they know what is going to happen. This is of course our fault as developers, because we have created a precedence of what is to be expected in a VN and when something throws us off, then many have a tendency to get annoyed or taken aback.

I hope I'm not coming off as being gruff or anything like that. It' is not my intent.

Cheers - Kaffekop

Your points are valid, but adding the "incest" tag and passing it off as such is very deceitful. I just feel like I threw three hours of my life in the trash can.

I can see real people doing vanilla porn. I play these games to be able to fantasize about something that is almost impossible to find in real life (and shouldn't happen anyway, as it carries potentially serious psychologial consequences for the parties involved). If you're just going to show me something that I can see anywhere else with a single click of the mouse, please be honest about it. I (and I imagine most people) don't have enough time in my day to waste with a massive boner-killer like this.

 

[flagwork]

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I turned off the game, deleted it, and fumigated my computer after the "big reveal," so I wouldn't know, but fair enough. The "incest" tag is accurate, but sister/sister, brother/sister stuff doesn't turn me on as much. Also, you spend the whole game under the impression that the lady is your real mom. If he's going to pull the rug from under people with this fetish, please, PLEASE, make it clear in the game's description or something that the mom-son stuff is not legit. Sure, it's a "spoiler", but it's like that show "there's something about miriam", where the lady turned out to have been trans all along and the contestants were pissed off: it's better to spoil these things

Also, I don't think Dylan's mom is his real mom. The game calls her his father's wife.

It's a shame, too, because the renders are fairly above average .