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I guess I really don't have a list. I would have to say thank you to Sasha though .Without her i'm not sure the MC would have the balls to accomplish this.
As far as the sub route with Bella i'm playing that now and I will go back and play the love route next. In R.L. you couldn't pay me to treat someone like that.
I've played so many games I guess iv'e become numb to a lot of stuff in them. But I will admit that in the game C.A. the scene with Maggie made me feel really bad . It was like you was taking advantage of a mentally handicapped girl.
 

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Except that isnt why she is with him at all, either read my comment detailing Bella's motive, or replay the section in Belugio where the MC takes her to her first date at the restaurant... hell start paying attention from the point he comes back with the Mom after they got lost in the woods.

Whereas your excuse for the sub path is basically defending the "broken" sexual kink... like Panty -Flash teacher when the teacher has her dad thrown in prison and murdered there, her life and reputation in shambles, and is used as a cumbucket for the main baddie and his gang...Dude "brought out her inner whore" you can say... when really he just fucked up her life to the point she can no longer go on living unless its through abuse evidenced by the final close-up of her face when she has those dead doll eyes.
Wait, that's not a sub. :oops: Sounds hot but that's different.
OR It's her kink, she hated being financially dominated, because FinDom is an entirely different brand of kink, BUT she enjoys being dominated sexually, and that has been brought out of her, YES it's absolutely fucked up, but I know a few subs, and it's ENTIRELY in their ballpark to do fucked up stuff to please their master, even if they don't "want" to.

Hell, if you're gonna go the "Stockholm Syndrome" route, you could argue it's the same on the "Love" path, Bella feels she "Owes" our MC, and, having not enough money to ever repay the money he spent, and time spent tracking this guy down and sorting him out too, she feels obliged to sleep with him to "repay" the kindness she was shown.

Again, total bollocks, but it's just as viable as the stuff you were spouting.
This guy gets it.(y)
 

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I guess I really don't have a list. I would have to say thank you to Sasha though .Without her i'm not sure the MC would have the balls to accomplish this.
As far as the sub route with Bella i'm playing that now and I will go back and play the love route next. In R.L. you couldn't pay me to treat someone like that.
I've played so many games I guess iv'e become numb to a lot of stuff in them. But I will admit that in the game C.A. the scene with Maggie made me feel really bad . It was like you was taking advantage of a mentally handicapped girl.
Still not seeing the big deal. If she didn't want to do anything she could have easily just took the vibrating egg out and shoved it up HIS ass.:unsure:
 
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but... our character fucks his sisters, all three of them, his mom to for some, and has a super sub M girl to... i think the MC wins Sick fuck of the year award here way ahead of James with what you said as a basis lol
and will make them all preggo.

I Searched but could not find the saves can you attach the files in reply?
persistent file too please
not 0.19 but close (day 34) https://f95zone.to/threads/sisterly-lust-v0-19-es-perverteer.6547/post-1725826
 

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Except that isnt why she is with him at all, either read my comment detailing Bella's motive, or replay the section in Belugio where the MC takes her to her first date at the restaurant... hell start paying attention from the point he comes back with the Mom after they got lost in the woods.

Whereas your excuse for the sub path is basically defending the "broken" sexual kink... like Panty -Flash teacher when the teacher has her dad thrown in prison and murdered there, her life and reputation in shambles, and is used as a cumbucket for the main baddie and his gang...Dude "brought out her inner whore" you can say... when really he just fucked up her life to the point she can no longer go on living unless its through abuse evidenced by the final close-up of her face when she has those dead doll eyes.
AGAIN, YOUR HEADCANNON IS JUST AS FLIMSY AS THE ONE I LAID OUT!

I explained WHY a sub does the stuff they do, despite not "wanting" to do it, also, complaining about how her eyes look? seriously? it's a fucking 3D render, it's difficult to get them to emote and have complex expressions and feelings in a still picture.

I didn't say he brought out her inner whore, I said it seems he helped her find her kink, there's a MASSIVE difference.

The long and short is, you clearly don't understand D/S relationships, how "weird" they can be, and how "weird" it can be finding out you have that kink, or any kink for that matter.
 

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AGAIN, YOUR HEADCANNON IS JUST AS FLIMSY AS THE ONE I LAID OUT!

I explained WHY a sub does the stuff they do, despite not "wanting" to do it, also, complaining about how her eyes look? seriously? it's a fucking 3D render, it's difficult to get them to emote and have complex expressions and feelings in a still picture.

I didn't say he brought out her inner whore, I said it seems he helped her find her kink, there's a MASSIVE difference.

The long and short is, you clearly don't understand D/S relationships, how "weird" they can be, and how "weird" it can be finding out you have that kink, or any kink for that matter.
Again, that would be right, except for the fact that he is not a Dom to here in that path, he's an owner. He stops caring about her entirely. Not what she wants, no what she needs. He no longer acts like a brother or lover. She is basically his possession. She no longer even lives as a person. What you clearly don't understand is how a D/S relationship works and that it's based on trust between the two people, not on what one person forces the other person to do until they have a mental breakdown and just accept it as their new reality.

A Dom's job is helping the Sub discover new kinks yes, but only if the Sub is a willing participant. She's not. She's blackmailed into it and forced to go along with it until she no longer sees any way out other than through. It's not a kink any more if she's basically been indoctrinated into going along with it.

Honestly this sad excuse of a Sub path is as messed up as that stupid hentai trope of raping a girl until she likes it.
 
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Again, that would be right, except for the fact that he is not a Dom to here in that path, he's an owner. He stops caring about her entirely. Not what she wants, no what she needs. He no longer acts like a brother or lover. She is basically his possession. She no longer even lives as a person. What you clearly don't understand is how a D/S relationship works and that it's based on trust between the two people, not on what one person forces the other person to do until they have a mental breakdown and just accept it as their new reality.

A Dom's job is helping the Sub discover new kinks yes, but only if the Sub is a willing participant. She's not. She's blackmailed into it and forced to go along with it until she no longer sees any way out other than through. It's not a kink any more if she's basically been indoctrinated into going along with it.

Honestly this sad excuse of a Sub path is as messed up as that stupid hentai trope of raping a girl until she likes it.
Yes, because no D/S relationship has ever been "Master" and "Slave", or "pet" and "Owner", or anything else like that ever.

The dirty talk, calling her a "thing" and "possession" is just that, Dirty Talk, designed to turn her on. Now get off your high horse and stop trying to spoil other peoples enjoyment of a kink.
 

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Yes, because no D/S relationship has ever been "Master" and "Slave", or "pet" and "Owner", or anything else like that ever.

The dirty talk, calling her a "thing" and "possession" is just that, Dirty Talk, designed to turn her on. Now get off your high horse and stop trying to spoil other peoples enjoyment of a kink.
When it's willing, yes. But she's not willing. It's done against her will. Therefore not Dom/Sub.

It's not a "high horse" when you're misrepresenting a kink to fit yours. Which is not Domination, it's subjugation.
 
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When it's willing, yes. But she's not willing. It's done against her will. Therefore not Dom/Sub.
Except it is. At first, not, she admits as much, but again, she grows to enjoy it. Stockholm Syndrome only works if there's no way out, For Stockholm syndrome to happen, FBI researchers have identified three key factors: the passage of time, continual contact, and small acts of kindness without direct and persistent abuse. According to Wikipedia.

You'll note the "Continual contact" Which Bella does not have with the MC, and "without direct and persistent abuse" Which Bella does not have.
 
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Except it is. At first, not, she admits as much, but again, she grows to enjoy it. Stockholm Syndrome only works if there's no way out, For Stockholm syndrome to happen, FBI researchers have identified three key factors: the passage of time, continual contact, and small acts of kindness without direct and persistent abuse. According to Wikipedia.

You'll note the "Continual contact" Which Bella does not have with the MC, and "without direct and persistent abuse" Which Bella does not have.
You still don't get it. In order for this to be a D/S relationship, she has to be willing in it FROM THE BEGINNING. SHE IS NOT.

She's indoctrinated into it, brainwashed, she has a psychotic break. She's not willing, she doesn't like it, she no longer is able to resist it and has no agency of her own anymore.

She's not submissive to your wishes, she's subjugated to your will.
 
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You still don't get it. In order for this to be a D/S relationship, she has to be willing in it FROM THE BEGINNING. SHE IS NOT.

She's indoctrinated into it, brainwashed, she has a psychotic break. She's not willing, she doesn't like it, she no longer is able to resist it and has no agency of her own anymore.

She's not submissive to your wishes, she's subjugated to your will.
What game are you playing? My Bella has agency. She still has a social life, she goes to work and she's even having an affair with her sister. She's only a sub when she's alone with the mc. :unsure:
 
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What game are you playing? My Bella has agency. She still has a social life, she goes to work and she's even having an affair with her sister. She's only a sub when she's alone with the mc. :unsure:
Really? She has her own agency? Can she say "no" to him?

No, she can't Therefore not a submissive, she is owned, a thing, subjugated.
 
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Really? She has her own agency? Can she say "no" to him?

No, she can't Therefore not a submissive, she is owned, a thing, subjugated.
OF COURSE SHE CAN! JFC, She CHOOSES not to, you ASK her if she wants it, she says yes.

ONCE AGAIN, She is not "Owned", the fantasy is that she's "Owned" and she goes along with it because she likes it too.

Jesus, by your logic, I shouldn't have a certain friend, because she hated me at first, for something like 4 years, then found out I'm actually a decent person, and now we're friends, by your logic, I've clearly brainwashed her.
 
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I might be talking nonsense here, so feel free to tell me to shut up, but I think Perverteer made a mistake by not so much rushing the D/s MC/Bella angle, but by trying to take it slow like a romance.

The payment instalments should've been the hook perhaps, but say, after Dwayne gets throttled, the MC cradles her while she cries, apologises for being a jerk and lets her off the hook. Maybe after that Bella could've decided what she wanted out of it. If she decides she wants to continue, they can be honest about what's going on, admit they're both enjoying it and lay out some rules.
 

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The Bella sub path is not going to be something we ever agree on no matter how long we argue about it.

To me she was taken advantage of when she was at her lowest and near broken. Her only sanctuary was invaded and she was forced into a situation and it broke her completely.

I'll never agree with sub/dom relationships that started by blackmail to be willing because they aren't. People can spin it however they want she was financially blackmailed and then sexually.

If people enjoy that kind of thing, great for them, but you can't expect everyone to.

Even the dev has shared doubts about that part.
 
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