VN Ren'Py Completed Snow Daze: The Music of Winter [v1.6] [Outbreak Games]

[TendreConnard]

Not on their steam page.

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For some perspective on what's happening content-wise, there is more art in Day 0/Day 1 than the entire original game. Redaze has significantly more content in all regards. We have fully expanded the day system, implementing dialogue-based permutations to add more situations for character development and give players the opportunity to get to know these characters more deeply.

Regarding the overall narrative execution, we looked at bigger-budget games to give us insight on how we handle character interactions. We aim to "Gamify" the dialogue by taking some ideas from titles such as Deus EX: Human Revolution, Fallout/Oblivion, and Vampire of the Masquerade. Taking inspiration from the right sources will make our conversation systems more engaging and allow more opportunities to expand on characters.

Really just read the whole thing it's not that long. Also they mention adding animations at the end.

 

[yercat]

Here is the thing. If they were making Snow Daze Plus all of that would be perfectly sensible. Something along the lines of expanding each day with a couple of extra interactions or adding post game content of sorts, maybe even adding some tropical daze stuff. Making the game operate in 3D space even when using all 2D assets would make those kinds of additions easier and less prone to bugs.

However they are obviously not doing anything of the sorts so its really just wasted effort at best or a straight up scam at worst. Either way I personally blame Patreon and Subscribe star for not having a stricter policy regarding this sort of stuff. Things can get off track in development but by my count Cypress Zeta is cumulatively a decade behind his own schedule.

Yep, it's the people feeding this stupid devs and Patreon/Subscribestar fault that this happens so often. If they were a little more strict with the people making content we wouldn't have this kind of problems, like, you're a dev? Ok we need proof of work every 6 months, you're an artist? Ok we need to see you drawing, you're trying to accomplish a project? Ok show us progress. If you fail at any of those check without real proof of problems, then gtfo of the platform.

 

[yercat]

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Really just read the whole thing it's not that long. Also they mention adding animations at the end.

They said a lot of things but there's no proof of anything, besides, 4 years and only animations on the end having hired a team of writers and art? Either you have like more than half summertime saga size game or you just eaten all the money.

And like i said so many times, you're making a VN, a kind of yes or no game, you just click options, unless they add mini games and stuff, theres no excuses here.

 

[Ermollo]

Yep, it's the people feeding this stupid devs and Patreon/Subscribestar fault that this happens so often. If they were a little more strict with the people making content we wouldn't have this kind of problems, like, you're a dev? Ok we need proof of work every 6 months, you're an artist? Ok we need to see you drawing, you're trying to accomplish a project? Ok show us progress. If you fail at any of those check without real proof of problems, then gtfo of the platform.

These are some wet dreams of a schoolboy.
Patreon, SS, Fanbox, Fanita and other platforms benefit from users paying authors, regardless of the quality and quantity of content.
The problem is only the brazen devs, nothing more.

 

[TendreConnard]

They said a lot of things but there's no proof of anything, besides, 4 years and only animations on the end having hired a team of writers and art? Either you have like more than half summertime saga size game or you just eaten all the money.

And like i said so many times, you're making a VN, a kind of yes or no game, you just click options, unless they add mini games and stuff, theres no excuses here.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they will deliver. There is quite some work because all art assets are being redone to have consistency (which original game lacked). But anyway, my point was just stop spreading lies.
I think we should consider the project dead and if (big if) it ends up coming out, then great.

 

[yercat]

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they will deliver. There is quite some work because all art assets are being redone to have consistency (which original game lacked). But anyway, my point was just stop spreading lies.
I think we should consider the project dead and if (big if) it ends up coming out, then great.

If it comes out, everyone should pirate it.

 

[TendreConnard]

If it comes out, everyone should pirate it.

Sure I agree, but saying this on a pirating forum isn't something special lmao

 

[Suslik575151]

So, i'm seeing lesbian and incest tags, are there any mother on daughter lesbian scenes in this game?

 

[yercat]

So, i'm seeing lesbian and incest tags, are there any mother on daughter lesbian scenes in this game?

No.

Sure I agree, but saying this on a pirating forum isn't something special lmao

I know, i believe i wrote this too on the steam forum of their game, there is a lot of folks mad there too.

 

[TheInternetIsForThis]

No.

Ehhh, sort of. They only interact with each other for the titillation of the player character, so the "lesbian" tag is inherently dubious to start with. But there is the shower scene involving the mom and the pc's sister.

 

[Fake438]

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Really just read the whole thing it's not that long. Also they mention adding animations at the end.

I hate to be that guy but all of this is just marketing bullshit speak. First off the claim "more art in Day 0/Day 1 than the entire original game" implies that Day 0 and 1 are already done aka there is enough content for a demo. Said demo has yet to materialize so that alone puts everything else into question but even then a lot of these claims essentially describe next to nothing in terms of what they actually mean which is a typical marketing tactic to avoid liability in case they fail to deliver on their promises. To elaborate:

1.expanded the day system - Can easily mean they just added a clock graphic into the corner and nothing else
2.implementing dialogue-based permutations - can literary just be that they made a couple of variations of the same exchange with no real change(aka one exchange is "I like dogs" and the other "I am fond of dogs" and another "Dogs are fine")
3.more situations for character development - This can mean literary everything from new scenes to just implementing the already done bonus scenes into the days
4.players the opportunity to get to know these characters more deeply - again this can be everything from a more in depth customization of what Jason does to the girls to adding irrelevant ballast about how Noelle likes muffins without chocolate chip
5.more art in Day 0/Day 1 - this is a classic where it could mean anything from actually new scenes to them counting each frame of a animation as a separate piece of art(the classic added over 500 picture of which 497 are video frames)

Point being the vagueness of these "additions" lets them do everything from a barely perceivable visual tweak to a whole game overhaul. If they were serious about adding to the game the blurb you posted would sound like this:

For some perspective on what's happening content-wise, there is more individual scenes in Day 0/Day 1 than the entire original game. Redaze has significantly more content in all regards. Each day offers more interactions, more outfits, implements dialogue-based permutations to add more situations for altering the girls and additional endings.

Hence why I do not count anything on the steam page as them promising new content. The vagueness of it lets them just weasel out of delivering anything of substance.

 

[yercat]

I hate to be that guy but all of this is just marketing bullshit speak. First off the claim "more art in Day 0/Day 1 than the entire original game" implies that Day 0 and 1 are already done aka there is enough content for a demo. Said demo has yet to materialize so that alone puts everything else into question but even then a lot of these claims essentially describe next to nothing in terms of what they actually mean which is a typical marketing tactic to avoid liability in case they fail to deliver on their promises. To elaborate:

1.expanded the day system - Can easily mean they just added a clock graphic into the corner and nothing else
2.implementing dialogue-based permutations - can literary just be that they made a couple of variations of the same exchange with no real change(aka one exchange is "I like dogs" and the other "I am fond of dogs" and another "Dogs are fine")
3.more situations for character development - This can mean literary everything from new scenes to just implementing the already done bonus scenes into the days
4.players the opportunity to get to know these characters more deeply - again this can be everything from a more in depth customization of what Jason does to the girls to adding irrelevant ballast about how Noelle likes muffins without chocolate chip
5.more art in Day 0/Day 1 - this is a classic where it could mean anything from actually new scenes to them counting each frame of a animation as a separate piece of art(the classic added over 500 picture of which 497 are video frames)

Point being the vagueness of these "additions" lets them do everything from a barely perceivable visual tweak to a whole game overhaul. If they were serious about adding to the game the blurb you posted would sound like this:

For some perspective on what's happening content-wise, there is more individual scenes in Day 0/Day 1 than the entire original game. Redaze has significantly more content in all regards. Each day offers more interactions, more outfits, implements dialogue-based permutations to add more situations for altering the girls and additional endings.

Hence why I do not count anything on the steam page as them promising new content. The vagueness of it lets them just weasel out of delivering anything of substance.

Damn dude, this is literally the best explanation ever, if you can, post this comment on their steam discussion thread, this one to be exact

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so people can get some sense.

 

[TendreConnard]

I hate to be that guy but all of this is just marketing bullshit speak. First off the claim "more art in Day 0/Day 1 than the entire original game" implies that Day 0 and 1 are already done aka there is enough content for a demo. Said demo has yet to materialize so that alone puts everything else into question but even then a lot of these claims essentially describe next to nothing in terms of what they actually mean which is a typical marketing tactic to avoid liability in case they fail to deliver on their promises. To elaborate:

1.expanded the day system - Can easily mean they just added a clock graphic into the corner and nothing else
2.implementing dialogue-based permutations - can literary just be that they made a couple of variations of the same exchange with no real change(aka one exchange is "I like dogs" and the other "I am fond of dogs" and another "Dogs are fine")
3.more situations for character development - This can mean literary everything from new scenes to just implementing the already done bonus scenes into the days
4.players the opportunity to get to know these characters more deeply - again this can be everything from a more in depth customization of what Jason does to the girls to adding irrelevant ballast about how Noelle likes muffins without chocolate chip
5.more art in Day 0/Day 1 - this is a classic where it could mean anything from actually new scenes to them counting each frame of a animation as a separate piece of art(the classic added over 500 picture of which 497 are video frames)

Point being the vagueness of these "additions" lets them do everything from a barely perceivable visual tweak to a whole game overhaul. If they were serious about adding to the game the blurb you posted would sound like this:

For some perspective on what's happening content-wise, there is more individual scenes in Day 0/Day 1 than the entire original game. Redaze has significantly more content in all regards. Each day offers more interactions, more outfits, implements dialogue-based permutations to add more situations for altering the girls and additional endings.

Hence why I do not count anything on the steam page as them promising new content. The vagueness of it lets them just weasel out of delivering anything of substance.

Again, I'm not saying all of this is true. All I'm saying is that they said it, and said it on their steam page. Nothing more. On my other post I also said we'd better consider the project dead.

 

[yercat]

Again, I'm not saying all of this is true. All I'm saying is that they said it, and said it on their steam page. Nothing more. On my other post I also said we'd better consider the project dead.

Steam means nothing, they even allow to change the release date, so what they wrote there it's the same as the subscribestar page.

 

[Tools1308]

Anyone know of more hypnosis games like this one where there is a gradual development with slower hypnosis instead of the typical app/ability typa stuff where the people are instantly hypnotized and do everything from the getgo?

 

[youngbloodjulius]

Anyone know of more hypnosis games like this one where there is a gradual development with slower hypnosis instead of the typical app/ability typa stuff where the people are instantly hypnotized and do everything from the getgo?

Yoo boy here with tha answer, here are som' games with tha mechanic:

- Isis: The Fall / Valdana: The Fall (both games by Tjord)
- Deviant Discoveries (scientist that uses serums, instead of hypnosis)
- Kangoku Senkan 1,2,3 / Kangoku Academia / Cara the Blood Lord (all by Jap. company Anime Lilith)
- Ring of Lust (must use the walkthrough provided by game)
- Kyonyuu Elf Oyako Saimin (and rest of the Kyonyuu series by Jap. company Lune)
- Tentacular (by Jackerman)
- Damon (by Bravergames)

Them games above are good. Not into furry or futa, so if that is your jam, maybe some else can suggest options.

Soldier on!

 

[Lgn332]

If you don't mind serums instead of hypnosis Lab Rats by Vren is pretty good, also gradual and share many tags with Snow Daze.

 

[FutasForLife]

Sooo the trojan with the game is just a thing now?

 

[Count Morado]

Sooo the trojan with the game is just a thing now?

there is no trojan

 

[yercat]

People already asking for updates in the steam forum, lol.