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enkephalin07

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What causes this?
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That should have been a second lvl1 group, but instead it goes unused and sits in the save file indefinitely. afaik it does nothing but make save/load slower.

And slower, and slower, and slower...I have a lvl 6 file with pages and pages of this spam that I had to abandon because of this. Now that I've started a new game, I'd like to know before I go any further, what the fuck is causing this?!?!
 

RockyVA

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What causes this?
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That should have been a second lvl1 group, but instead it goes unused and sits in the save file indefinitely. afaik it does nothing but make save/load slower.

And slower, and slower, and slower...I have a lvl 6 file with pages and pages of this spam that I had to abandon because of this. Now that I've started a new game, I'd like to know before I go any further, what the fuck is causing this?!?!
The only times this has happened to me is when I used the online save game editor to make changes. The more times I made edits the more blotted the save file became. Sucks that this happens but the editor seems to be the source.
 
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enkephalin07

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The only times this has happened to me is when I used the online save game editor to make changes. The more times I made edits the more blotted the save file became. Sucks that this happens but the editor seems to be the source.
Well, that confirms my suspicion that it happens because the dev is an asshole. Does using monkey have the same risks?
 

dusty stu

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Please find attached the latest experimental Monkey.dll v1.7.1.

This version will only works with SMA v8.6+. Make sure the game main menu shows version 086.7 or later - if not the Monkey window will be blank.

PM me if you have any issues with this update.

-T-

Release notes
- JSON custom UI improvements
- New Button UI type​
- Support for button performing actions within a group​
- Support setting enumerable values on parameter less methods​
- Added F9 hotkey to hot reload monkey.json​
- See JSON_Quick_Guide.txt and monkey.json for more information and examples​
- Randomized clothing button
- Changes entire set; individual control requires game changes​
- Configurable font size
- Set in monkey_configuration.xml; use 0 for default​
- Sluttify
- Tuned so a simple mode profile, very low difficulty, perverted personality,​
very high vag/anus/mouth experience will rate "10/10/9/10/10/a lot" in SMA 8.6a.​
- Several new sliders
- Pubes, labia control, player skin color, etc.​
- Other fixes
- Groups no longer perform multiple refreshes​
- Detects document folder permission issues and output a console error​
- Turkish language should no longer trigger a load error​
- Close file handles if possible during exceptions​
- Resizing windows now detects height only changes​
- Optimized gene fetch using a local unified cache​
- Use the new 8.6+ MainFemaleCharacter object tag​

Install Instructions
- Backup any existing save files (%UserProfile%\Documents\TValle Games)
- Create a NEW folder (use "C:/SMA" if having issues)
- Install latest SMA 8.6+ in the folder and make sure it works
- Open the Monkey archive and copy all files to the same folder

Existing installs (not recommended)
- Delete monkey_configuration.xml, replace monkey.json and monkey.dll

How to use
- Commands are shown in the title bar
- Fly camera: hold right mouse button and use WASDQE to move, use spacebar to
switch input between camera and player, shift to go fast, alt to go slow
- Some color sliders will not work unless you uncheck the 'sync' options in gameplay settings
- Options are in Monkey_Configuration.xml and custom UI definitions in monkey.json

Signature
Name: 1.7.1z
Size: 519227 bytes (507 KiB)
SHA256: 38ade86264fd87bf3a280c435a945aba4fd353c61592cd1b1bed5e17ba10a38f
It seems like pubes are not being saved via monkey ?
 

Thora

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It seems like pubes are not being saved via monkey ?
Please make sure that 'sync' is uncheck in menu->gameplay, both for single interviews and normal game. Otherwise, any changes to pubes or most colors will not work properly. I will edit the release notes to make this clearer.

Actual saving (as in using the phone to save a model) of all pubes parameters has been tested and is working (I just retested this to make sure). Of course there might be bugs so if it is still not working, pm me with more details.

-T-
 
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maxdannis

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I compared chess with GTA... where did you get the impression I did what you say I did?
Let's start by posting the full context of your reply first.

You need to reread this all:

I've played this game for far longer than some 10GB games (In gameplay time). I wonder which one has more 'content'...

If you think about it, the content is infinite in SMA: You can create your own models and poses and the amount of variables is ludicrous
Content is may be "infinite" but you can still see everything the game has meaningfully to offer you in under an hour or two. That's the nature of games with random generation and real-time interaction:
You need about fifteen minutes to get all possible base moves of chess explained... is chees a less serious game than Grand Theft Auto V or Maniac Mansion?
You used chess as a proxy for SMA in an analogy, a game with simple mechanics but endless possibilities and gameplay. I find this laughable.

Maybe if you said early versions of No Mans Sky instead of Chess, where there was very little content and they leaned very hard on procedural generation to create the illusion of infinite content, but in reality it was a very shallow game. I'd have accepted that.

Or if you used a simple dice or board game like Yahtzee or even Monopoly with strong RNG elements. Technically every game is different, but there's still very little depth to it.

Chess is a work of genius. SMA is not. mrjohndoelawlz is dead on in his reply. There's really not much to the game. It uses some randomness to try to create content but it's all a very shallow illusion. It's understandable, it's a single dev working part time on it, not trying to knock the poor guy here, but it's also a joke to bring games like chess and GTA5 into the conversation in analogies to SMA.

Or, maybe you are incapable of understanding or following the context of a conversation, and forgot you're in a thread about a smut game and think this is now a discussion purely of chess and GTA5.
 

dusty stu

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Please make sure that 'sync' is uncheck in menu->gameplay, both for single interviews and normal game. Otherwise, any changes to pubes or most colors will not work properly. I will edit the release notes to make this clearer.

Actual saving (as in using the phone to save a model) of all pubes parameters has been tested and is working (I just retested this to make sure). Of course there might be bugs so if it is still not working, pm me with more details.

-T-
Unchecked sync. Still not sure if pubes are saving. Getting a lot of landing strip pubes (even though I never select that with monkey).

btw, does rating 0 mean 'ignore this' or does it mean 'the worst of the worst, I hate this' ?
 

Thora

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Unchecked sync. Still not sure if pubes are saving. Getting a lot of landing strip pubes (even though I never select that with monkey).

btw, does rating 0 mean 'ignore this' or does it mean 'the worst of the worst, I hate this' ?
Oh, saving as in 'will be considered by the genetic algorithm'?

Monkey does correctly set the data inside of the game dictionary used by the genetic algorithm. I do not know 'how/if' the game use those genes, but it's likely a blend of several genes associated with the 'crotch' rating. It usually take a few generation of consistent ratings for things to converge.

In regards to ratings, click on the '?' top-right of the female rating panel (see below).

My understanding is that 0 will randomize all genes associated with the rating and is the only way to get rid of things you don't like.

-T-

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jimmyjoo

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Oh, saving as in 'will be considered by the genetic algorithm'?

Monkey does correctly set the data inside of the game dictionary used by the genetic algorithm. I do not know 'how/if' the game use those genes, but it's likely a blend of several genes associated with the 'crotch' rating. It usually take a few generation of consistent ratings for things to converge.

In regards to ratings, click on the '?' top-right of the female rating panel (see below).

My understanding is that 0 will randomize all genes associated with the rating and is the only way to get rid of things you don't like.

-T-

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But when I try to rate with zero, I get a message empty raiings. The message implies that I shouldn't be doing that. Hopefully the DEV changes the wording to be a bit more clear.
 

sinrtb

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is there a way to convert a saved girl (take a pic with the phone) to a profile for autorating?
 

ninetyfiveme

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You used chess as a proxy for SMA in an analogy, a game with simple mechanics but endless possibilities and gameplay. I find this laughable.
edit... after re-reading... in a way you got my point - and then you say something which I think is your personal oppinion about me, and not anything about the discussion and the topic - which I can accept. You don't have to like what I say. You got the intended analogy about the need of masses of conent and functionality to create a good game. that was my point - you have not said anything about my point - you say what I say is laughable because of the context in which i said it. So If there is a red ball - someone calls it a red ball in front of a porn shop - it is no longer true?

Have fun.
 
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