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I'm curious to know how many people actually pirate this game. Before the release window was over, it was just the same group of people posting here. Now, after we have past the release window, like 60+ users I have never seen before popped up to complain
 

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I'm curious to know how many people actually pirate this game. Before the release window was over, it was just the same group of people posting here. Now, after we have past the release window, like 60+ users I have never seen before popped up to complain
I'd happily support Sunset if he had a more reliable worth ethic for someone who makes $15,974 a month, but he doesn't, so I'm a pirate. Arrgh!
 
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Kasnia is terrible. And makes no sense. Still can't do anything with the real Audrey who I have in a cell but can go to Kasnia and do stuff with the clone I gave Savage? Ok.... that makes total sense!
I remember when the Audrey clone stuff was first added there was no option. Lex just picked to give the original to Savage. He seemed to change it due to the response on the discord.
I'm curious to know how many people actually pirate this game. Before the release window was over, it was just the same group of people posting here. Now, after we have past the release window, like 60+ users I have never seen before popped up to complain
Less than 1 in a 100 regular players (probably a lot a less) are patrons. So with the 3K payers there's going to be like 297K people not paying.

In terms of people that stopped being patrons (Seems to be over 60+ as you said) but if you look at

His highest Patron number are:
November 2020 (2740) - (Last build release)
December 2020 (2782)
January 2021 (3084) (possibility in anticipation of the build coming out?)
Feb 2021 (2706)

This might be a sign that 76 (or less) patrons got annoyed at the delays and unsubbed. Which means they potentially lost $456/minus tax/patron take etc ($6 on average per Patron) due to the delay in Feb.

That being said Patrons are back to 3072 (help from teasers) which is a loss 12 Patrons (which usually is an increase of at least say 18) which means they lost about 40 regulars there (minimum) $240.

So after looking at that the delays aren't impacting stuff too much (biggest negative financially for them in about 2 years) but it has limited their growth somewhat. There are knock on effects of stuff like delays, stagnates growth etc. For example if they never had delays they may be even at 3.6K patrons due to lots of little things adding together (extra awareness due to regular releases/trusted word.)

In that case, where's the Christmas special? We need Santa Lex and the elf heroines.
It's implied to be the next big event with Queen Bee. Maybe it'll come November 2021 or January 2022.
 
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I remember when the Audrey clone stuff was first added there was no option. Lex just picked to give the original to Savage. He seemed to change it due to the response on the discord.

Less than 1 in a 100 regular players (probably a lot a less) are patrons. So with the 3K payers there's going to be like 297K people not paying.

In terms of people that stopped being patrons (Seems to be over 60+ as you said) but if you look at

His highest Patron number are:
November 2020 (2740) - (Last build release)
December 2020 (2782)
January 2021 (3084) (possibility in anticipation of the build coming out?)
Feb 2021 (2706)

This might be a sign that 76 (or less) patrons got annoyed at the delays and unsubbed. Which means they potentially lost $456/minus tax/patron take etc ($6 on average per Patron) due to the delay in Feb.

That being said Patrons are back to 3072 (help from teasers) which is a loss 12 Patrons (which usually is an increase of at least say 18) which means they lost about 40 regulars there (minimum) $240.

So after looking at that the delays aren't impacting stuff too much (biggest negative financially for them in about 2 years) but it has limited their growth somewhat. There are knock on effects of stuff like delays, stagnates growth etc. For example if they never had delays they may be even at 3.6K patrons due to lots of little things adding together (extra awareness due to regular releases/trusted word.)


It's implied to be the next big event with Queen Bee. Maybe it'll come November 2021 or January 2022.
Please let it be a musical. That's what this game needs a porno musical! With blackjack and hookers!
 

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Please let it be a musical. That's what this game needs a porno musical! With blackjack and hookers!
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It's kinda hard to say. It could have more traditional concubine stuff with Lex tech there. I imagine a lot of it would designed for Lex to really like it there.
 

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I'm quite curious how this game was built, how is it you need to test all these scenes for weeks when its literally just another bunch of cell scenes that have existed with other characters since kingdom come, at this point they should just stop and move to the rework and we'd still get content in the same timeframe
 

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I'm quite curious how this game was built, how is it you need to test all these scenes for weeks when its literally just another bunch of cell scenes that have existed with other characters since kingdom come, at this point they should just stop and move to the rework and we'd still get content in the same timeframe
It's drag and drop, almost database type way of doing things but it's made on a early version that makes connections easy to break. Think Microsoft Access from several years ago.
 
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I've been fucking around with Fungus recently, and I do think if he used the current version of the add on he wouldn't have nearly as many problems
 

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Ya know at this point, I'm expecting them to release at the same time as Justice League Synder cut, ya know to leach some of that attention. :p

I mean this would have to be the most indepth DC porn parody around. :)
 

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Ya know at this point, I'm expecting them to release at the same time as Justice League Synder cut, ya know to leach some of that attention. :p

I mean this would have to be the most indepth DC porn parody around. :)
Apparently they are unsure for Thursday so it'll most likely be after.
 
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I'd happily support Sunset if he had a more reliable worth ethic for someone who makes $15,974 a month, but he doesn't, so I'm a pirate. Arrgh!
He talked about that in the Discord recently - apparently Patreon fees, transfer fees, and Canadian taxes eat up more than half that amount. According to him, bringing on a professional coder would pretty much wipe out what's left after that (and would add more taxes and such). Seems like that's a really high tax rate to me, but maybe Canada hates Patreon or something.

I'm quite curious how this game was built, how is it you need to test all these scenes for weeks when its literally just another bunch of cell scenes that have existed with other characters since kingdom come, at this point they should just stop and move to the rework and we'd still get content in the same timeframe
I'm curious about this as well - it seems like it should be easy to rebuild at least the cell contents in another system (or just from the ground up), with events maybe being more complicated. But somehow his code right now handles new events easier than cell stuff, at least that's what people are saying.
 
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He talked about that in the Discord recently - apparently Patreon fees, transfer fees, and Canadian taxes eat up more than half that amount. According to him, bringing on a professional coder would pretty much wipe out what's left after that (and would add more taxes and such). Seems like that's a really high tax rate to me, but maybe Canada hates Patreon or something.


I'm curious about this as well - it seems like it should be easy to rebuild at least the cell contents in another system (or just from the ground up), with events maybe being more complicated. But somehow his code right now handles new events easier than cell stuff, at least that's what people are saying.
Looking at Patron he gets about Canadian $209,624 (Which is the 2nd highest 46.62% tax bracket) with other stuff he's doing he may be at the highest at 50.40%. Patreon/Fees is about 8% on top of that. So it can be easily seen that he takes less than half of what you see on the Patreon page. So 100K Canadian annually across two people. That being said I think he's changed to a corporate tax this year which should be lower.

Yeah I think he's gotten better at assembling so new cells have less bugs.
 

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well i have alway's looked at there updates as a wait and see. wait tell it showes are see how much older i get lol. that was a joke son boy's bout as sharp as a thump tax i tell ye bye the way i'ma roster not a chicken boy lol.
 
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