Classic Krieger

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Sunset: "If you think I'm gonna release SU on a deadline, you're living in a dream world!"

Us: "Good. Deadlines save us. Deadlines lift us up and transform our projects into something better. And on my soul, I swear that until my dream of a world where deadlines, transparency and bugfreeness are the reality we all share, I'll never stop pirating. Ever."


Seriously though, deadlines are a good thing that increase productivity. We do out best work under a reasonable amount of pressure, and deadlines provide that pressure.

Having a monthly schedule is good since you have a lot of room to create something, but the span is short enough to keep yourself focused on one specific element of the game and not drift away doing other things.

Moving to bi-monthly builds is a step in the wrong direction. It's fine to do once if you're doing a huge update and don't want to spend time cutting it in two and making sure both halves work.
But you're not increasing productivity. You're not gonna get 200% content, you'll get 175% at best. Since the deadline is so far away, you're gonna procrastinate, you're gonna lose focus and waste time polishing non-critical things, and then when you're nearing the deadline you're going to be under unnecessarily high pressure when you realize that people are now expecting 200% content compared to a monthly build.

If you're making an actual video game you do need a lot of time, in order to experiment and try to find something new that's working and is fun to play. But the "games" we're talking about on this site are really visual novels, consisting of some barebones mechanic (which is perfectly fine) with writing and artwork added on top of that. There is absolutely no reason to extend the build schedules for months.
You're not creating the Mona Lisa or David. You're drawing two people fucking and writing text describing it, you should be able to produce one such artwork weekly. If you do three a month, that leaves one week for polish and implementing it into the game. Shave off the quality of a drawing slightly and take one day to test the build, and you have it all done in a month.

Doing release windows on top of this is of course, as has been shown, a laughable concept. Extending the deadline is not going to help, it's just making things worse. You can dedicate a whole year to make a build, but you know that after 365 days you're gonna be sitting on an unfinished, unstructured mess that is months away from being releasable.

What is weird is how many patrons seem to be OK with paying them money every month, but only getting something every 2 months (with an extra 2 week delay added on top of that).
I stopped supporting their Patreon after some lackluster, buggy update a couple of years ago, and in hindsight it seems like a ridiculous thing to complain about in comparison. I mean, at least I got something that month!

Now this rant has nothing to do with Sunset's art (which is still godly), his writing (which are good takes on every character that makes them stand out from each other), or the fact that the amount of girls increased to unmanagable levels. It's all about productivity, and how they, if they still aim to finish the remaining girls within 5 years, need to turn up the heat and impose deadlines instead of cooling down by pushing the deadline ever further away.


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naw man, Sr7 already made clear that he no longer wants to work on this project anymore. He just wants to keep milking it. He doesn't want to get involved with it anymore cept for milking the new patreons. The noobs that come in thinking "oh boy this is a nice beta! If I support this I'll sure get the returns of this investment" not realizing this game has been existing since... 2016?
what more proof than the fact that in this year he's barely made one month worth of decent content. difference is he now masks it as double the content, and hides the fact that every update means 2-3 months.
 

Rica2

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OK,if we assume that 2 characters completion will be Livewire and Blackfire,what about other 2?
Maybe third one is Circe?
And forth must be a superheroine.
Three variations.
-Stargirl-unlike Hawkgirl she already have some cell scens done+3 outfits and dance action-so less work to complete her.
-Starfire-will make sense to complete her together with Blackfire
-Hawkgirl-almost done cell,mostly MB content to add
Livewire and Blackfire definitely but I'm not sure about Circe they could be just adding her introduction with a couple scenes. they're most likely going to finish up Star Girls cell content I'm not sure about Hawkgirl though. they may decide to finish Mercy's content since they gave her those interaction scenes with Lois the last update but it's hard to say. there are quite a few characters who they could finish off quickly not counting interaction or leash scenes galatea, giganta or Harley to name a few I'm hoping for galatea
 

armion82

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Livewire and Blackfire definitely but I'm not sure about Circe they could be just adding her introduction with a couple scenes. they're most likely going to finish up Star Girls cell content I'm not sure about Hawkgirl though. they may decide to finish Mercy's content since they gave her those interaction scenes with Lois the last update but it's hard to say. there are quite a few characters who they could finish off quickly not counting interaction or leash scenes galatea, giganta or Harley to name a few I'm hoping for galatea
I mean only 1 superheroine-Stargirl or Starfire or Hawkgirl.No way to finish both Stargirl and Hawkgirl.Unless we are talking only for cell content.
For Circe as third completed character-yes,it will be a surprise if they finish her in one update.It will be a first.No other characters we see in event before that,was finished in one go.
Other characters as third instead of Circe-I doubt they will miss the opportunity to hype us if they think to finish Harley or Galatea.Or Superwoman,Catwoman etc.The only ones that I can see they can give us without a tease-Star Sapphire or Giganta or Killer Frost.
 

Henshinvolt

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I mean only 1 superheroine-Stargirl or Starfire or Hawkgirl.No way to finish both Stargirl and Hawkgirl.Unless we are talking only for cell content.
For Circe as third completed character-yes,it will be a surprise if they finish her in one update.It will be a first.No other characters we see in event before that,was finished in one go.
Other characters as third instead of Circe-I doubt they will miss the opportunity to hype us if they think to finish Harley or Galatea.Or Superwoman,Catwoman etc.The only ones that I can see they can give us without a tease-Star Sapphire or Giganta or Killer Frost.
Livewire seems likely. Maybe Harley. Stargirl may be it too. Blackfire and Starfire might be another release. Roulette might be a finished one since she doesn't have her regular anal. I suspect one of them might be a characters that has no content.

My Prediction (For cell completion):
Livewire
Roulette (Or Stargirl)
Zatanna (Or Huntress/Black Canary)
Circe
 

armion82

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Livewire seems likely. Maybe Harley. Stargirl may be it too. Blackfire and Starfire might be another release. Roulette might be a finished one since she doesn't have her regular anal. I suspect one of them might be a characters that has no content.

My Prediction (For cell completion):
Livewire
Roulette (Or Stargirl)
Zatanna (Or Huntress/Black Canary)
Circe
I will go with what I can think is possible
Stargirl
Livewire
Blackfire
Circe
And here what I want,but won't happen now
Stargirl
Audrey
Wonder Woman
Superwoman
 

Rica2

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I will go with what I can think is possible
Stargirl
Livewire
Blackfire
Circe
And here what I want,but won't happen now
Stargirl
Audrey
Wonder Woman
Superwoman
I'm going with
Livewire
Blackfire
Star Girl
mercy
since they're going back to the prison what are they adding is killer frost going to drop the soap
 

Henshinvolt

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I'm going with
Livewire
Blackfire
Star Girl
mercy
since they're going back to the prison what are they adding is killer frost going to drop the soap
I could see a added girl in the prison and some extra stuff probably with Poison Ivy.
 

Kain2358

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I am going to curb your enthusiasm with a little pesimism. If he plans to "complete 4 girls" this update, he would propably focus on those with the least scenes missing.
There is no way he is going to complete Huntress, Black Canary or Zatanna, as they have no content so far.
Wonder Woman, Harley, Galatea and Starfire would be promoted more. Blackfire shouldn't be done without Starfire.
Star Girl is unlikely as she would require too many scenes. Audrey is unlikely because unfortunatelly she may not be requested as much as the others.

My guess would be:
Roulette (only anal missing)
Livewire (sex and anal missing)
Hawkgirl (MB stuff)
either Mercy (more likely) or Killer Frost (less likely)
and some unexpected prison stuff with Ivy and the guards

Circe is going to have only an intro and a couple of dialogs. Maybe a dance, but nothing more.
 
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Rica2

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I am going to curb your enthusiasm with a little pesimism. If he plans to "complete 4 girls" this update, he would propably focus on those with the least scenes missing.
There is no way he is going to complete Huntress, Black Canary or Zatanna, as they have no content so far.
Wonder Woman, Harley, Galatea and Starfire would be promoted more. Blackfire shouldn't be done without Starfire.
Star Girl is unlikely as she would require too many scenes. Audrey is unlikely because unfortunatelly she may not be requested as much as the others.

My guess would be:
Roulette (only anal missing)
Livewire (sex and anal missing)
Hawkgirl (MB stuff)
either Mercy (more likely) or Killer Frost (less likely)
and some unexpected prison stuff with Ivy and the guards

Circe is going to have only an intro and a couple of dialogs. Maybe a dance, but nothing more.
there is a chance they will do Blackfire without Starfire they finished Supergirl without finishing galatea so what's stopping them now
 

armion82

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I am going to curb your enthusiasm with a little pesimism. If he plans to "complete 4 girls" this update, he would propably focus on those with the least scenes missing.
There is no way he is going to complete Huntress, Black Canary or Zatanna, as they have no content so far.
Wonder Woman, Harley, Galatea and Starfire would be promoted more. Blackfire shouldn't be done without Starfire.
Star Girl is unlikely as she would require too many scenes. Audrey is unlikely because unfortunatelly she may not be requested as much as the others.

My guess would be:
Roulette (only anal missing)
Livewire (sex and anal missing)
Hawkgirl (MB stuff)
either Mercy (more likely) or Killer Frost (less likely)
and some unexpected prison stuff with Ivy and the guards

Circe is going to have only an intro and a couple of dialogs. Maybe a dance, but nothing more.
I think you are right about Huntress,Black Canary,Zatanna,WW etc.
But for Blackfire you are probably wrong.It seems they will do henchwomen content independent of superheroines.
Don't forget that each henchwoman have a cell content too,that have nothing to do with "her" superheroine.
Stargirl don't require that many scenes if we are talking for cell content only.It's almost same amount of scenes as Audrey or Galatea or Blackfire.
I will rely on streams we have and this is what I think we will get.
-Stargirl-cell content.Maybe even MB(private room and exhibition)-less likely.
-Livewire-almost 100% sure about her
-Blackfire-cell content,no Starfire content
-Circe
-Poison Ivy/Harley
-prison
 

sperg

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based on stream content
harley/ivy
backfire
stargirl
livewire
circe

maybe some hawkgirl content but very unlikely cause I think the problem is designing scenes with wings
possibly content with black canary or zatanna but also unlikely as they were just updates to the models

as for the delay wanted to photoshop this and replace Russia with SR7 and Soviet Union with Akabur but i'm lazy

 

Henshinvolt

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I am going to curb your enthusiasm with a little pesimism. If he plans to "complete 4 girls" this update, he would propably focus on those with the least scenes missing.
There is no way he is going to complete Huntress, Black Canary or Zatanna, as they have no content so far.
Wonder Woman, Harley, Galatea and Starfire would be promoted more. Blackfire shouldn't be done without Starfire.
Star Girl is unlikely as she would require too many scenes. Audrey is unlikely because unfortunatelly she may not be requested as much as the others.

My guess would be:
Roulette (only anal missing)
Livewire (sex and anal missing)
Hawkgirl (MB stuff)
either Mercy (more likely) or Killer Frost (less likely)
and some unexpected prison stuff with Ivy and the guards

Circe is going to have only an intro and a couple of dialogs. Maybe a dance, but nothing more.
You are right. What might happen is we get Hawkgirl private room/bordello stuff completed but I suspect he is talking about cell content.
 

spellbreaker

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What is weird is how many patrons seem to be OK with paying them money every month, but only getting something every 2 months (with an extra 2 week delay added on top of that).
I stopped supporting their Patreon after some lackluster, buggy update a couple of years ago, and in hindsight it seems like a ridiculous thing to complain about in comparison. I mean, at least I got something that month!

Now this rant has nothing to do with Sunset's art (which is still godly), his writing (which are good takes on every character that makes them stand out from each other), or the fact that the amount of girls increased to unmanagable levels. It's all about productivity, and how they, if they still aim to finish the remaining girls within 5 years, need to turn up the heat and impose deadlines instead of cooling down by pushing the deadline ever further away.


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I agree with everything you said and I'm sure arguments along those lines were raised when he announced that, but were drowned in obscurity by the YES men in his discord or he just told them to 'fuck off' like he does usually. Speaking of his discord, it's a cesspool of an echo chamber.
 
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