come on at least send Hikari over to Cassie......oh wait thats on the good boi route too
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Since I'm following the romance path with all of them, I simply choose the options that close the other routes and leave the romance open. The in-game walkthrough is really helpful for this.
Lol. She is the perfect wingman. But she's gonna be busy for a while with Riley. Hopefully, Atemsiel has plans for her with the other girls down the road.come on at least send Hikari over to Cassie......oh wait thats on the good boi route too
Yes, but if I'm understanding this correctly, you make a choice between Hikari & Akemi. Hikari I'm on romance, but I think technically you are still on romance with Akemi if you do the bet with her.
Considering that you can actually send Hikari her way for advice on sex toys I would be pretty surprised if none of the other girls fall prey to the ole Cassie seduction. She's also expressed a fair amount of interest in you punishing Olivia as well that could easily lead somewhere
Daaaamn. Hikari? Sex Toys? Looks like I've really missed all the good content with her.
But yeah, with Olivia I forget exactly what Cassie said in that gym scene that she wanted to do to her, but I remember it was quite nasty. Made me wonder if the MC will let her dom girls somewhere down the line, or maybe forced lesbian contact with Cassie (excluding Riley cause we know that is coming).
Lots of us are waiting for that. Atemsiel is really saving the best for last with her...
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My choice was to neither punish Hikari nor Akemi, leaving the romance route open for both. The romance route with Hikari begins that night, when she goes to the MC's room and you ask her if she wants a massage.
With Akemi there is no possibility of starting the romance route for now.
I told her no lesbian sex.
I told her no lesbian sex.
Way too controlling. To me setting parameters or boundaries on someone's sexuality is a form of D/S. I wonder how all the anti-sub/slave players will justify having to collar the girls and thereby controlling their orgasms, given that orgasm denial is a common kink in BDSM.
Way too controlling. To me setting parameters or boundaries on someone's sexuality is a form of D/S. I wonder how all the anti-sub/slave players will justify having to collar the girls and thereby controlling their orgasms, given that orgasm denial is a common kink in BDSM.
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Maybe, but I don't like lesbian sex, so when they give me the opportunity to avoid it, I take it.
If the Dev force us to use the collars... I won't know what happens next because that's where the game will end for me.
I'm down with lesbian sex as long as I'm involved in it lmao. Like don't just go off and fuck another chick by yourself, but a 3some with me where the two chicks do stuff to each other as part of the marathon... hell yes to that
I agree with it being controlling to an extent but I personally view a fair bit of it as "precaution" taken as part of this being a VN because a fair amount of people would scream NTR if you did not have the choice to explicitly stop any and all instances of LI x LI unless MC is part of the action.
I personally think that the collars might be mandatory if for no other reason than the whole set up of program is to test the collars not for the students or even the school and as a pure boi I will have faith that the writing around it justify it for me personally. Most of that faith comes from the fact that there has been a lot invested into the romance paths and the rest comes from the hope that suddenly years into development the game wont go "and now you must hardcore maledom everybody all the time"
Edit: the first part was literally proven as i was typing it
If the Dev force us to use the collars... I won't know what happens next because that's where the game will end for me.
It will be interesting to see how that plays out. It seems to me that the MC is basically under orders to use them. And then he drew up his own rules that require collaring for any infraction. But who knows...maybe he will rebel against the evil GATDAM system and hack the collars to neutralize their effects. Which would, of course, piss off all the slave players. I'm not sure Atemsiel will come up with a solution that doesn't alienate a portion of the player base.
It will be interesting to see how that plays out. It seems to me that the MC is basically under orders to use them. And then he drew up his own rules that require collaring for any infraction. But who knows...maybe he will rebel against the evil GATDAM system and hack the collars to neutralize their effects. Which would, of course, piss off all the slave players. I'm not sure Atemsiel will come up with a solution that doesn't alienate a portion of the player base.
some people will always be pissy unless a game goes exactly like they want it (to varying degrees) and that goes double when a "dubious" thing like the collars get involved. i am not 100% sure on the collar lore but shouldn't most of it be able to be toggleable? Sort of the same dynamic we have now with forced punishments where yes you could collar a girl but then not influence when she cums or whatever. Honestly though even that would alienate some people despite it sounding reasonable to a pure boi like me
Your Riley got off lightly. I told mine to start returning the favor to Cassie if she wanted dick.
My memory is hazy about how this works (which is strange since I just did a complete new playthrough for the recent update) but I thought the point of the collars was to increase the horniness of the girls while blocking orgasms unless the MC provides the release. Otherwise, the girls could just offset the effects of the collar by masturbating all day, which would defeat the purpose.
But we don't know if the MC has to say press a button for them to get release or it's automatic unless MC changes something do we? The previous magistrate and both the other people running for it against us would happily make use of the collars as instructed, MC is throwing a wrench in their plans (so to speak) by being on the girls side.
In universe it would be kind of silly for MC to have to manually say "yes you can cum" every single time one of the 10+ girls tries to cum (assuming you collar everyone like the scary shadow guys want you to) and in a meta sense like I said years worth of time/effort has gone into making the romance/good and bdsm/dom/slave routes have legitimate differences it would be a financially poor decision to 3-4 years (of game development) to completely remove the vanilla options.
I mean hell even future updates about Olivia have been confirmed to have a "not interested option" (you can tell her dad you don't want to start her route at all basically). If collars (and being """bad"""") become mandatory the choice given this update is pointless.
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The romance options obviously won't be removed since that is what attracts the majority of players. I was just curious how Atemsiel would deal with it going forward with all the reminders and emphasis on using the collars. And we are all playing the same MC who happily consulted the dog training manuals to devise his personal rules for implementing the GATDAM system. It's not like we had any choice with that. And he is being dosed with agro drugs. That would seem to create some obstacles to remaining vanilla & lovey dovey in this game.
The "aggro" drugs already have a reduced effect on a "good path". In my playthrough the only thing they've done is make the screen have a red tint for like a single render and then the everything is back to normal. Where if you are "bad" it's already having you show increased aggression.
I still don't see a reason why the collars need to be treated any differently than the forced punishments you have to do. Did the MC purchase that specific training book of his own volition or was it provided for him? The shadowy people were not expecting someone to not be a rapey asshole about the collars, they figured that whoever took the job would be keen on instantly controlling the girls getting them on all slaves route etc.
There is also another group that have just recently come into play that are likely opposed to whatever group is making the collars (they are sneaking around the school and clearly doing things that the school/shadow group didnt apporve of, which is another sign that you will be able to opposed the idea of collars.
A fair bit of the romance options would disappear. Hikari wouldn't want to be her boyfriend (you emotionally manipulate her and then collar her for basically no reason), Akemi would (rightfully) hate you for lying and manipulating her sister, Olivia would still be Olivia, Sasha would have trouble trusting you with ghost hunting. Cassie would stop talking to you when you turned her friend to a a borderline slave because she almost raped. Hell if any of the girls talk to each other they'll all know you are the same level as the creepy teacher (arguably much worse)
I've given you multiple ways that the story could go in both overarching "story direction/drama"(MC vs Shadow group, MC x new group vs shadow group, MC vs new group vs shadow group) and interpersonal drama (MC having to collar but then CHOOSE not to use it/how the girls react to that etc) as well as example as to why it would silly both financially and from a story (both in lore and overall game design reasons) all while showing that content that hasn't even made it into the game yet will still follow the option of "the player will choose". Not to mention none of the girls out of school stuff (Sasha ghost hunting/Olivia Bodyguarding so far) would take place because they wouldn't want to be around you unless they were absolutely forced too
If you can't see how the dev could work both "good" and "bad" into the game you either are
1. Someone who hasnt played the game and seen that there is very different content on each side both in entire scenes and especially in dialog (which fits with you only having played the route you did but still saying "x is always the case")
2. You don't want there to be "good" stuff and this is all in bad faith
3. You want to troll
I put those in order of likelihood but regardless there is no point in us further conversing you've made your point that you don't see how it could deviate from what you have in your head but have refused to engage in any way with any of the ideas I offered.
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