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YogSothoth1982

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The submissive route is right in the middle. That said, there won't be any merci for Olivia....
Everyone has their own tastes, and mine don't include maledom (not either femdom). In fact, I'm not even interested in either of those two routes with Olivia, a character specifically designed to be hated. My options with her are either romance or no route at all.
 

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Everyone has their own tastes, and mine don't include maledom (not either femdom). In fact, I'm not even interested in either of those two routes with Olivia, a character specifically designed to be hated. My options with her are either romance or no route at all.
I respect that, even though there are many other games out there that focus on vanilla romance. But doesn't even the romance options lean towards rough sex or borderline SM? I'm thinking, for example, of one scene with Cassie where she asks to be facefucked and choked I think. That was on the Romance route and was rather hardcore.
 
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hoshimota

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The game is already pretty fucking vanilla/tame overall from what I have seen so far. Maybe it gets WAY darker mid way through (I am still pretty early in) but the impression I get so far is that it's not. There has been a whole lot of "oh sweetie are you sure you want to do this, do I have your consent" type stuff so far, and I was pretty shocked when the random chick blew the MC in the locker room at the pool, and her friend goes "don't cum in her mouth" so MC is just like ok cool - I 100% expected an option here to just do it anyways.
 
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Vibesy

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The game is already pretty fucking vanilla/tame overall from what I have seen so far. Maybe it gets WAY darker mid way through (I am still pretty early in) but the impression I get so far is that it's not. There has been a whole lot of "oh sweetie are you sure you want to do this, do I have your consent" type stuff so far, and I was pretty shocked when the random chick blew the MC in the locker room at the pool, and her friend goes "don't cum in her mouth" so MC is just like ok cool - I 100% expected an option here to just do it anyways.
Don't worry. It gets way, way less tame. For example, Slave Riley has got a date with the spreader that you don't want to miss. The last update also has the MC starting to completely lose control and becoming very aggressive under the effects of some kind of drug. While it's pretty clear that Atemsiel won't be going for torture or really dark stuff, the basement dungeon is going to be seeing a lot of action.
 

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I respect that, even though there are many other games out there that focus on vanilla romance. But doesn't even the romance options lean towards rough sex or borderline SM? I'm thinking, for example, of one scene with Cassie where she asks to be facefucked and choked I think. That was on the Romance route and was rather hardcore.
Not sure if you are talking about the same scene but the walkthrough says

"If you give a flirty reply but then tell her you “can’t wait to see that”, or if you go
further but then don’t bring up the texts, CASSIE HAS A DREAM (GALLERY SCENE 4) in
which she gets a rough blowjob from you"

The game lets you decide to not "go all the way" with someone at literally the last second because she is not sure she is 100% ready. I think this game does most of that stuff really well considering the positions the characters are in
 

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Not sure if you are talking about the same scene but the walkthrough says

"If you give a flirty reply but then tell her you “can’t wait to see that”, or if you go
further but then don’t bring up the texts, CASSIE HAS A DREAM (GALLERY SCENE 4) in
which she gets a rough blowjob from you"

The game lets you decide to not "go all the way" with someone at literally the last second because she is not sure she is 100% ready. I think this game does most of that stuff really well considering the positions the characters are in
Yes she has that dream. But then later she sleeps with the MC and asks him to act out the dream I guess. Maybe you can refuse, but if not you get a rather hardcore facefucking scene with her (and according to the game save I'm on the romance route with Cassie).
 

Simpgor

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Yes she has that dream. But then later she sleeps with the MC and asks him to act out the dream I guess. Maybe you can refuse, but if not you get a rather hardcore facefucking scene with her (and according to the game save I'm on the romance route with Cassie).
Ah yeah that is entirely up to player choice/variables even on the romance path you can get a less rough (i assume) blowjob, or a titjob. Still 1 variation of scene with 1 character (and that character possibly having a dream) dont really paint the game as one that leans towards rough stuff at least on the romance paths imo
 

hoshimota

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Don't worry. It gets way, way less tame. For example, Slave Riley has got a date with the spreader that you don't want to miss. The last update also has the MC starting to completely lose control and becoming very aggressive under the effects of some kind of drug. While it's pretty clear that Atemsiel won't be going for torture or really dark stuff, the basement dungeon is going to be seeing a lot of action.
Fuck I might need to reprioritize a bit and play a little further in this one then!!
 
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Ah yeah that is entirely up to player choice/variables even on the romance path you can get a less rough (i assume) blowjob, or a titjob. Still 1 variation of scene with 1 character (and that character possibly having a dream) dont really paint the game as one that leans towards rough stuff at least on the romance paths imo
Dunno. With the other girls whose paths have started I'm on sub/slave. But then there is also the Akemi bet scene where the MC physically restrains her with his legs. Is that a vanilla scene? I'm not sure, but I do sort of question the attraction of this game for players who say they get no thrill from a D/S kink. Are they really being honest? Because even if you try to avoid it completely, the situation between the collars, basement etc is premised on a male power fantasy.
 
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Dunno. With the other girls whose paths have started I'm on sub/slave. But then there is also the Akemi bet scene where the MC physically restrains her with his legs. Is that a vanilla scene? I'm not sure, but I do sort of question the attraction of this game for players who say they get no thrill from a D/S kink. Are they really being honest? Because even if you try to avoid it completely, the situation between the collars, basement etc is premised on a male power fantasy.
that too is 100% dependent on player choice and can be avoided by not being interested in punishing hikari (for an unfair bet).

I love this game precisely because it allows you (so far) to not willingly engage with it at all, and I have faith that atemsiel will continue to make it compelling.

some people play games to be evil and do shit they couldnt do irl some people play games to be good and do shit they couldnt do irl
 

YogSothoth1982

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Yes she has that dream. But then later she sleeps with the MC and asks him to act out the dream I guess. Maybe you can refuse, but if not you get a rather hardcore facefucking scene with her (and according to the game save I'm on the romance route with Cassie).
I don't have that scene, my MC spent the night with Hikari.

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I loaded a game to see it (using CTRL to get to it quickly), and honestly I was right not to see it at the time.
 
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Vibesy

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that too is 100% dependent on player choice and can be avoided by not being interested in punishing hikari (for an unfair bet).

I love this game precisely because it allows you (so far) to not willingly engage with it at all, and I have faith that atemsiel will continue to make it compelling.

some people play games to be evil and do shit they couldnt do irl some people play games to be good and do shit they couldnt do irl
True. But you wouldn't know that until you played the scene. The MC might just be looking at it as a way to romance Akemi, which is how I played it in my mind. I didn't want to punish Hikari, but it was an excellent opportunity to get a sex scene with her bitchy sister, Akemi- then the MC proceeds to dominate Akemi both physically and mentally, which surprised me.
 

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I don't have that scene, my MC spent the night with Hikari.
That's odd. I think I'm on Romance with Hikari, but never got an option to spend the night with her. With the Cassie scene, I think you have the choice of texting her to come to the MC's dorm room, which kicks off that sex scene.
 

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True. But you wouldn't know that until you played the scene. The MC might just be looking at it as a way to romance Akemi, which is how I played it in my mind. I didn't want to punish Hikari, but it was an excellent opportunity to get a sex scene with her bitchy sister, Akemi- then the MC proceeds to dominate Akemi both physically and mentally, which surprised me.
If i came across as trying to say that it is impossible to have rough stuff on the romance paths i am sorry what i meant to say is even playing without the guide you can avoid any rough stuff if you so choose such as the case with my run.

That's odd. I think I'm on Romance with Hikari, but never got an option to spend the night with her. With the Cassie scene, I think you have the choice of texting her to come to the MC's dorm room, which kicks off that sex scene.
does being in a relationship with Riley change this? I seem to recall Cassie saying something akin to "oh nooooooo sir" in my game
 

YogSothoth1982

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That's odd. I think I'm on Romance with Hikari, but never got an option to spend the night with her. With the Cassie scene, I think you have the choice of texting her to come to the MC's dorm room, which kicks off that sex scene.
Well, in my game, after the scene with Hikari, you can ask her to spend the night:

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Vibesy

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There are so many variations with Riley that it's very confusing. But I always seem to end up on the slave Riley path so you are probably right. It would make sense that Cassie would refuse to come over of you are romancing her friend.
 

YogSothoth1982

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What path is that with Hikari? Besides a kiss on a park bench, my MC has never gotten anything with her. Not even the cooking lesson she is always talking about. And I went easy on her + no punishment after the gym class.
Romance:

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Since I go the romantic route with everyone, Hikari's first punishment was tying her to the pillar and nothing else. And later in the bet I told Akemi that I had no intention of punishing Hikari.
 
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What path is that with Hikari? Besides a kiss on a park bench, my MC has never gotten anything with her. Not even the cooking lesson she is always talking about. And I went easy on her + no punishment after the gym class.
I am on the romance path for her and i have the same choices. The PDF walkrthough linked in the OP is pretty good it might be worth a look to see if you can figure out why exactly you are getting different stuff. The only thing i can think of that would be able to play any role is the bet with akemi but since ive never done it I cant say for certain fwiw above is how MCs night ends for me :KEK:
 
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Vibesy

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Ah ok thanks. I'm never gonna see that since I can't resist the bet with Akemi. Unless Logan or Chase get to her, Hikari may remain a virgin in my game.
 
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