VN Ren'Py STWA: Unbroken [Pt. 7] [STWAdev]

[Ragnar]

And right there is the problem I was talking about. It's painting by numbers not setting up a decent relationship.

Amrit and Kana is the one I have the most problems with.

Kana is busy running away from her life and Amrit is new to absolutely everything to do with relationships. A throuple would not work with either of them. Neither of them know what they want or what they are doing. Neither are in the right frame of mind to settle down and starting a relationship with "you is good wrestler, me love you long time" is not the basis for true love.

Elspeth is so mentally damaged it's surprising she hasn't been sectioned.

The MC has an allergy for relationships and is so screwed in the head he's having constant conversations in his head with his dead friend.

Vi has lost everyone she ever loved and is clinging to what's left.

These are the man and women being looked at to maintain probably one of the most difficult relationships and people wonder why some of us are confuddled.

Like I said, I could possibly see maybe 3 or 4 of them being in a long term solo relationship but I couldn't picture a single one in a throuple and that includes the MC. None of them have the right frame of mind and those that have lived long enough to know what they want are all screwed in the head and should be thinking about years of therapy before settling down to doggystyle and tongue punching vaginas.

Well yeah, if this was real life there would be many issues to overcome to make it work. But this is a game and like in movies the power of love can conquer everything. Imo that's part of the magic of fiction, it doesn't have to be as hard as real life.
Sometimes you want a story grounded in reality and its hardships while others you want a story just to feel good.

 

[Blizzard99]

The throuples are obvious and easy to introduce in the story already.
Amrit x Kana. Amrit is already Kana's fangirl and she's in love with the MC.

i can’t imagine that the Kana x Amrit throuple would work, at the moment. Especially, since Kana has never shown interest in girls like Amrit has done. Honestly, I’m not really interested in that throuple either.

 

[Canto Forte]

MC is the beefcake. What is it with all a y”alls obsession of pushing girls into eachother?
Let them have their fun with MC and see where it goes. There are wants and needs on all sides.

 

[Avaron1974]

Well yeah, if this was real life there would be many issues to overcome to make it work. But this is a game and like in movies the power of love can conquer everything. Imo that's part of the magic of fiction, it doesn't have to be as hard as real life.
Sometimes you want a story grounded in reality and its hardships while others you want a story just to feel good.

It's fine using the "it's a game" excuse but shit still needs to make sense and Amrit being in a throuple with Kana doesn't make any sense.

It's literal fan service.

If we were talking real life none of the girls nor the MC would be able to hold down a long term relationship on their own nevermind a throuple.

I'm basing my thoughts on what the game is telling me and it's telling me they all either have some form of psychological trauma or, in the case of Amrit, zero experience in anything.

Elspeth, Mc and Vi should be looking at years of intense therapy and a probably a lifetime of medication so i'm not basing it off real life or the game would be dull as they would either be sectioned or medicated.

Like i've said before, I need relationships to make sense or it's just porn for porns sake and I have websites for that. When the talk turns to the game having 2 throuples in the making and 1 being voted that is pure fan service and adding throuples for the sake of adding throuples probably basing it off the first games being popular and so many people having a weird fixation on harems.

If we take another thing from the first game, that being Kims mental health issues, and note that she did not end up in a relationship with the MC until the story cut forward a loooooong time because she wasn't mentally ready for one. Here we have 3 people in a far worse place than she was and not only are 2 of them main love interests but looking at being in throuples.

Make it make sense.

 

[Monetka_]

It's fine using the "it's a game" excuse but shit still needs to make sense and Amrit being in a throuple with Kana doesn't make any sense.

It's literal fan service.

If we were talking real life none of the girls nor the MC would be able to hold down a long term relationship on their own nevermind a throuple.

I'm basing my thoughts on what the game is telling me and it's telling me they all either have some form of psychological trauma or, in the case of Amrit, zero experience in anything.

Elspeth, Mc and Vi should be looking at years of intense therapy and a probably a lifetime of medication so i'm not basing it off real life or the game would be dull as they would either be sectioned or medicated.

Like i've said before, I need relationships to make sense or it's just porn for porns sake and I have websites for that. When the talk turns to the game having 2 throuples in the making and 1 being voted that is pure fan service and adding throuples for the sake of adding throuples probably basing it off the first games being popular and so many people having a weird fixation on harems.

If we take another thing from the first game, that being Kims mental health issues, and note that she did not end up in a relationship with the MC until the story cut forward a loooooong time because she wasn't mentally ready for one. Here we have 3 people in a far worse place than she was and not only are 2 of them main love interests but looking at being in throuples.

Make it make sense.

I completely agree with you when you want at least a drop of logic, and you are led to the argument "This is a porn game".

 

[Canto Forte]

Time and life waits for no one. This game grouped a lotta people together so as is has action
with little need for deep thought or uneathing deep wounds. Just like delving into fights
to quench your burning desire for closure, they can lose themselves in one another at times.
Sharing moments and living together does make for easy action to be had,
because the guard is already down and they can take hits and do that for a living.

 

[Ragnar]

It's fine using the "it's a game" excuse but shit still needs to make sense and Amrit being in a throuple with Kana doesn't make any sense.

It's literal fan service.

If we were talking real life none of the girls nor the MC would be able to hold down a long term relationship on their own nevermind a throuple.

I'm basing my thoughts on what the game is telling me and it's telling me they all either have some form of psychological trauma or, in the case of Amrit, zero experience in anything.

Elspeth, Mc and Vi should be looking at years of intense therapy and a probably a lifetime of medication so i'm not basing it off real life or the game would be dull as they would either be sectioned or medicated.

Like i've said before, I need relationships to make sense or it's just porn for porns sake and I have websites for that. When the talk turns to the game having 2 throuples in the making and 1 being voted that is pure fan service and adding throuples for the sake of adding throuples probably basing it off the first games being popular and so many people having a weird fixation on harems.

If we take another thing from the first game, that being Kims mental health issues, and note that she did not end up in a relationship with the MC until the story cut forward a loooooong time because she wasn't mentally ready for one. Here we have 3 people in a far worse place than she was and not only are 2 of them main love interests but looking at being in throuples.

Make it make sense.

No excuse I'm just saying it is what it is, a game, a tale, fiction. The dev can kill the entire cast in a fire if he wants and it would make sense.
Now let's talk about real life.
Do you really think fucked up people don't have complex relationships? No, that's not how it works, life is complex and everybody has issues but keeps living as best as they can.
You can have ptsd or be severely depressed and still have a love relationship, kids and a dog. Why would a throuple be a stretch?
I get it, for you it doesn't make any sense here and these characters should be in a mental institution but to me and others it makes perfect sense.

 

[vogelbeest]

Just choose the girl you like and keep it at that.... There's not much sense in every girl wanting you when you're clearly involved with everybody else that moves and has tits either.... Well, not when the goal is a steady relation anyway.
If a dev wants to ad a harem path or throuples or quadruples or whatever, i don't really care, what is important for me is the story doesn't suffer from it, not much worse then a harem game with 20 or more LI's and a very thin boring story between the scenes with one LI after another. (unless it's just that and there's even nothing happening there either)

That said i think 6 possible solo paths and 3 possible throuple paths could be doable, especially if the main focus is the story.
Now if you want new scenes for each separate path each update it might take a while between updates.

 

[Walter Victor]

Make it make sense.

If all real-life relationships made sense, we wouldn't have divorce or spousal abuse.

When love and sex come into the picture, 'sense' usually jumps out the window.

 

[patachoucs]

I have yet to understand why some people get pissy about optional relationships no one forces them to play.


If you think it hurts the story, just play it straight and keep it contained to one girl ? Problem fixed.

Also beggars can't be chosers. Still, it's funny to complain about "no devs made Patreon voted content work" when Stew actually did with The Author. Dru, despite being the latest addition to the story, had a very sweet story arc, that a lot of people, yours truly included, absolutely loved. And it was included because of a Patreon vote.
Stew has never said he'd give carte blanche to anyone. He'll give options among story arc he already has somewhat planned.

So yeah. Cry me a river I guess.

 

[Englen]

I have yet to understand why some people get pissy about optional relationships no one forces them to play.


If you think it hurts the story, just play it straight and keep it contained to one girl ? Problem fixed.

Also beggars can't be chosers. Still, it's funny to complain about "no devs made Patreon voted content work" when Stew actually did with The Author. Dru, despite being the latest addition to the story, had a very sweet story arc, that a lot of people, yours truly included, absolutely loved. And it was included because of a Patreon vote.
Stew has never said he'd give carte blanche to anyone. He'll give options among story arc he already has somewhat planned.

So yeah. Cry me a river I guess.

Some people just love to complain for the sake of it.

 

[Rinbael]

I have yet to understand why some people get pissy about optional relationships no one forces them to play.


If you think it hurts the story, just play it straight and keep it contained to one girl ? Problem fixed.

The problem is if it is like the author was. You can't really avoid only going for one girl and ignore the other since the game acted like you were going for both until it got near the end and you were stuck with both characters til you could pick one.

I don't know about other people but that is my main issue with possible throuples. Since stew is only one man and it would be a massive amount of work to have a solo path for both girls and then a throuple path it would be worse in this game since there is going to be three possible throuples.

I'm worried the same thing will happen to this game where a character I like is going to have to share scenes and screen time with one I don't like simply because they are one of the throuple pairings.

 

[Avaron1974]

I have yet to understand.....

I've yet to understand why people come to a public forum with threads aimed at people discussing the game including issues they may have with any content and then whining about peoples opinions....

If you want a circle jerk, you could stick to their patreon but by all means attempt to be a jackass and start an issue over people having an opinion.

So yeah, cry me a river I guess.

 

[Ahx]

No excuse I'm just saying it is what it is, a game, a tale, fiction. The dev can kill the entire cast in a fire if he wants and it would make sense.
Now let's talk about real life.
Do you really think fucked up people don't have complex relationships? No, that's not how it works, life is complex and everybody has issues but keeps living as best as they can.
You can have ptsd or be severely depressed and still have a love relationship, kids and a dog. Why would a throuple be a stretch?
I get it, for you it doesn't make any sense here and these characters should be in a mental institution but to me and others it makes perfect sense.

I have yet to understand why some people get pissy about optional relationships no one forces them to play.


If you think it hurts the story, just play it straight and keep it contained to one girl ? Problem fixed.

Also beggars can't be chosers. Still, it's funny to complain about "no devs made Patreon voted content work" when Stew actually did with The Author. Dru, despite being the latest addition to the story, had a very sweet story arc, that a lot of people, yours truly included, absolutely loved. And it was included because of a Patreon vote.
Stew has never said he'd give carte blanche to anyone. He'll give options among story arc he already has somewhat planned.

So yeah. Cry me a river I guess.

I've yet to understand why people come to a public forum with threads aimed at people discussing the game including issues they may have with any content and then whining about peoples opinions....

If you want a circle jerk, you could stick to their patreon but by all means attempt to be a jackass and start an issue over people having an opinion.

So yeah, cry me a river I guess.

You know what else doesn't make sense?...Throuples!...Yeah, yeah, it is some sort of relationship, I know.

Can't you just agree to disagree?!...How hard can it be? Just make it work you three!

 

[Avaron1974]

You know what else doesn't make sense?...Throuples!...Yeah, yeah, it is some sort of relationship, I know.

Can't you just agree to disagree?!...How hard can it be? Just make it work you three!

I'd be eternally grateful if you didn't put me and Ragnar in the same category as that other one.

2 of us were talking about the game and had a difference of opinion, the other one tried to be a dick and dismiss opinions on a public forum.

I've been known to be a bitch to people at times but i've yet to join a thread and attempt a "I don't understand why people use a games thread for it's intended purpose and discuss their opinions because i'm a massive muppet".

 

[Ahx]

I'd be eternally grateful if you didn't put me and Ragnar in the same category as that other one.

2 of us were talking about the game and had a difference of opinion, the other one tried to be a dick and dismiss opinions on a public forum.

I've been known to be a bitch to people at times but i've yet to join a thread and attempt a "I don't understand why people use a games thread for it's intended purpose and discuss their opinions because i'm a massive muppet".

And I thought putting all three of you together in the same post would be funny. Sorry.

Some people just love to complain for the sake of it.

There is a fine line between an opinion and a complain. You don't see it.

I have yet to understand why some people get pissy about optional relationships no one forces them to play.


If you think it hurts the story, just play it straight and keep it contained to one girl ? Problem fixed.

Also beggars can't be chosers. Still, it's funny to complain about "no devs made Patreon voted content work" when Stew actually did with The Author. Dru, despite being the latest addition to the story, had a very sweet story arc, that a lot of people, yours truly included, absolutely loved. And it was included because of a Patreon vote.
Stew has never said he'd give carte blanche to anyone. He'll give options among story arc he already has somewhat planned.

So yeah. Cry me a river I guess.

You simply can't tolerate other's opinions unless it's matched with yours. Is that what your brain is trying to say?

People are entitled to their own opinions. Isn't that like the first thing you learn here? O-p-i-n-i-o-n-s matter!

I haven't even gone on a date with Elspeth yet

She did watch something she stands against for you. That's big.

 

[Englen]

There is a fine line between an opinion and a complain. You don't see it.

Agree to disagree.

 

[patachoucs]

And I thought putting all three of you together in the same post would be funny. Sorry.

There is a fine line between an opinion and a complain. You don't see it.

You simply can't tolerate other's opinions unless it's matched with yours. Is that what your brain is trying to say?

People are entitled to their own opinions. Isn't that like the first thing you learn here? O-p-i-n-i-o-n-s matter!


She did watch something she stands against for you. That's big.

If only you knew how to understand what you read.
Where did I said you had no right to have opinions ? I'm talking about how some have been complaining a whole lot on this thread about optional throuples, and how it messes the game up for them. Beside : 1. Having no idea so far who is concerned and how it'll be implemented
2. Having the very simple option to not play that route if they don't like it and let others who might enjoy it get it in peace.

Some people have way too much free time and it translate with negative talk. All the time. Despite not even be correct about how it is things will be voted or how Stew makes the votes work in the first place.

But please, continue being a white knight.
And be my guest, criticize things that are not yet in the game. Certainly don't adress my original points either.

Seems like a lot of wasted energy but what do I know.

 

[Canto Forte]

The idea of making more than a couple of characters interact in a scene is good to
work the same plot for many characters development. They all evolve together, talk it out,
bang it out, progressing the story and making it possible for us to see a lot in the same setting.
Just enjoy this gem of a game and trust these babes to entertain you.

 

[Ahx]

If only you knew how to understand what you read.
Where did I said you had no right to have opinions ? I'm talking about how some have been complaining a whole lot on this thread about optional throuples, and how it messes the game up for them. Beside : 1. Having no idea so far who is concerned and how it'll be implemented
2. Having the very simple option to not play that route if they don't like it and let others who might enjoy it get it in peace.

Some people have way too much free time and it translate with negative talk. All the time. Despite not even be correct about how it is things will be voted or how Stew makes the votes work in the first place.

But please, continue being a white knight.
And be my guest, criticize things that are not yet in the game. Certainly don't adress my original points either.

Seems like a lot of wasted energy but what do I know.

I can understand when something has been discussed and answered so many times, anything resembles even a little to them, starts to sound more like a complaint but when actually it isn't. You just need to give it a second to realize before you push it together with the actual annoying complaints. The retarded ones, I mean.

Just because people express their feeling about, let's say, a not well implemented throuple route, throwing out "it's optional" to their faces is certainly not a solution, mate. You seem to think so, apparently.

You let them talk and hear what they say, some would actually make sense, trust me, because not all of them cook up bullshit with their keyboard. Again, make a little more effort to see through if it's a complaint or an opinion. I get pissed when people complain about nothing too, but it's not the same here.