Subverse - promising h-game on kickstarter

[destroyerofassholes]

today I will remind them
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I'm pretty much expecting this from the game if the direction hasn't changed. The initial vision was essentially alien ntr: the game.

If these guys have even 2 braincells they know that Steam is a very vanilla community simply because they are a huge majority, and cuckoldry is a very niche fetish for a very low amount of people, when the game releases and all the cuck shit is seen the backlash is gonna be hilarious, because it's pretty fucking obvious that most people on steam are not wishlisting or preordering this by research, they just go "oh big boobs big porn game nice".

We'll see when it releases, but I'm not holding my breath at all.

"You can do nothing about this don't even try". Holy fuck lmao. How can they be THIS blind. If you're making the biggest porn game ever, you have a much wider audience than the niche shit that fow did, but they can't comprehend this at all.

If the hentai releases are anything to go by, this game will be unplayable.

 

[Razrback16]

I'm pretty much expecting this from the game if the direction hasn't changed. The initial vision was essentially alien ntr: the game.

If these guys have even 2 braincells they know that Steam is a very vanilla community simply because they are a huge majority, and cuckoldry is a very niche fetish for a very low amount of people, when the game releases and all the cuck shit is seen the backlash is gonna be hilarious, because it's pretty fucking obvious that most people on steam are not wishlisting or preordering this by research, they just go "oh big boobs big porn game nice".

We'll see when it releases, but I'm not holding my breath at all.

"You can do nothing about this don't even try". Holy fuck lmao. How can they be THIS blind. If you're making the biggest porn game ever, you have a much wider audience than the niche shit that fow did, but they can't comprehend this at all.

If the hentai releases are anything to go by, this game will be unplayable.

ya, you called it. i'll plan on it being a high seas exclusive and if by some crazy chance there is no forced cuck stuff, then i'll go and buy it on steam, but my hopes are not high.

 

[M0nte]

Did they not market what this game is gonna be about? Did they lie to people about what content it is going to have? I feel, at least from what I read in these threads, they were upfront about what content there game is going to contain. Only reason I can think of people being justifiably confused/angry is if they stealth edited game description at some point. But from what I have seen they did not, so I do not see a point complaining about something that is not targeted towards you. Since there a lot of games that happen to do that.

 

[Razrback16]

Did they not market what this game is gonna be about? Did they lie to people about what content it is going to have? I feel, at least from what I read in these threads, they were upfront about what content there game is going to contain. Only reason I can think of people being justifiably confused/angry is if they stealth edited game description at some point. But from what I have seen they did not, so I do not see a point complaining about something that is not targeted towards you. There a lot of games that happen to do that.

i think there was some conflicting marketing material pertaining to referencing "romances" and "love interests". here's a quick kickstarter entry reference that stands out to me -

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in it, you'll see the pic of fortune there having a candle-lit dinner with presumably the captain and underneath it are references to some of the details on "fully fledged romances", etc. which, at least to me, conflicts with cuck material.

when i used to follow this game on steam i remember numerous posts where people would ask about this type of cuck stuff and nobody from studio fow would ever respond either way - almost like they were afraid to officially say that yes it has cuck stuff. my guess is they know this would scare away potential paying customers, but at the same time they can truthfully claim that they never said it didn't have cuck stuff...they just never officially said it did, either so if anyone has regrets after purchase, they have plausible deniability.

either way, maybe i am someone who was naive to think it didn't have cuck stuff from reading the dev diaries such as the one referenced above, and i have no problem owning that. i'm just thankful for you folks here that pointed this stuff out before i got my wallet out.

 

[drakar]

either way, maybe i am someone who was naive to think it didn't have cuck stuff from reading the dev diaries such as the one referenced above, and i have no problem owning that. i'm just thankful for you folks here that pointed this stuff out before i got my wallet out.

Gotta say I kinda had the suspicion there would be cuck content but being a "big studio" I though they would do what I've seen some smaller devs do here, you start the game and it asks you "you want some of this cuck stuff? no? alright, let me hide the scenes and the dialog tied to said scenes ever happening".
The good thing about this game being early access is that things can still change tough I doubt they will.
The only thing I see that could happen is the majority of the backers get mad, with that backlash the game sales drop and refunds go to an all time high, in this case they will have to chose, sell for the smaller market of people ok/into cuck stuff or make a proper "cuck removal option" and appeal to the entire market.
Games always benefit from more options (be it graphical or gameplay) and in this case it rings truer than ever.

 

[liordel]

Wow...Subverse looks impressive... Goin to have to try that!

 

[Razrback16]

Gotta say I kinda had the suspicion there would be cuck content but being a "big studio" I though they would do what I've seen some smaller devs do here, you start the game and it asks you "you want some of this cuck stuff? no? alright, let me hide the scenes and the dialog tied to said scenes ever happening".
The good thing about this game being early access is that things can still change tough I doubt they will.
The only thing I see that could happen is the majority of the backers get mad, with that backlash the game sales drop and refunds go to an all time high, in this case they will have to chose, sell for the smaller market of people ok/into cuck stuff or make a proper "cuck removal option" and appeal to the entire market.
Games always benefit from more options (be it graphical or gameplay) and in this case it rings truer than ever.

ya i think a lot of folks would be in favor of what you propose here. like i mentioned in my last post, i've seen a good number of posts on steam where people specifically were asking if the cuck stuff was canon, etc. in terms of it being mentioned in conversations, etc. but could never get an official answer from the studio no matter how many times people asked - it is clearly a concern for more than a few. ah well, i still applaud them for being bold enough to make a game like this, but maybe next time they'll leave the cuck stuff by the wayside so i will actually feel like buying it.

 

[Deleted member 111545]

today I will remind them
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I posted the same pic in their discord and the closest respond i got from a mod was "if you dont like the game dont buy it" and eventually got banned for asking them to clarify plus there was some delusional ppl saying that all ntr was avoidable/or there was none

hard copium its gonna be fun to read the reviews here and on steam

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Gotta say I kinda had the suspicion there would be cuck content but being a "big studio" I though they would do what I've seen some smaller devs do here, you start the game and it asks you "you want some of this cuck stuff? no? alright, let me hide the scenes and the dialog tied to said scenes ever happening".
The good thing about this game being early access is that things can still change tough I doubt they will.
The only thing I see that could happen is the majority of the backers get mad, with that backlash the game sales drop and refunds go to an all time high, in this case they will have to chose, sell for the smaller market of people ok/into cuck stuff or make a proper "cuck removal option" and appeal to the entire market.
Games always benefit from more options (be it graphical or gameplay) and in this case it rings truer than ever.

I'd be fine if they just added an option that said "no cuck stuff". Not "skip scenes" but straight up no cuck stuff. But they don't even want to add that option.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

I posted the same pic in their discord and the closest respond i got from a mod was "if you dont like the game dont buy it" and eventually got banned for asking them to clarify plus there was some delusional ppl saying that all ntr was avoidable/or there was none

hard copium its gonna be fun to read the reviews here and on steam

Bruh it's subverse's own discord server, every community's own dc server will always be incredibly defensive of everything.

Copium and hopium in full effect.

 

[M0nte]

So did any of you guys back this game up on Kickstarter? Now, I understand complaining about stuff when game simple does not give you option when you feel it should. Those are the times where you just either complain where developers or many people can hear you so that it would lead to change (not on some backwater site) or you just do not buy it.

 

[D4n0w4r]

So did any of you guys back this game up on Kickstarter? Now, I understand complaining about stuff when game simple does not give you option when you feel it should. Those are the times where you just either complain where developers or many people can hear you so that it would lead to change (not on some backwater site) or you just do not buy it.

 

[M0nte]

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You poor soul...

 

[destroyerofassholes]

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Bruh. My condolences.

 

[Razrback16]

So did any of you guys back this game up on Kickstarter? Now, I understand complaining about stuff when game simple does not give you option when you feel it should. Those are the times where you just either complain where developers or many people can hear you so that it would lead to change (not on some backwater site) or you just do not buy it.

i missed the backer window. turns out i'm glad i did though or i'd be experiencing buyer's remorse right now.

 

[Deleted member 1954024]

Wow, WOW, all this hype, million $$$ and years of waiting for a freaking cuck game. Are they for real?! I really hope the dreaded ntr will be avoidable, skipable or whatever and not the main fetish otherwise these devs deserve to be cucked in in real life, but they would propably enjoy it anyways bruh

 

[joethebeast]

Wow, WOW, all this hype, million $$$ and years of waiting for a freaking cuck game. Are they for real?! I really hope the dreaded ntr will be avoidable, skipable or whatever and not the main fetish otherwise these devs deserve to be cucked in in real life, but they would propably enjoy it anyways bruh

The major problem is that their intention was to gather 50k EURO, and make a game for their long time supporter niche.
But they got 20x that amount majorly from people that are NOT in that niche.

So, the concept of the project was to develop a niche product. Of course they should adapt, but it's hard to change the essence of the game after the development and crowdfunding started. To do so, would demand money, time, and would piss off their fanbase and supporters. So, don't be fooled into thinking that Subverse will have a deep romantic setting/love story plot.

Nevertheless, if this game succeeds, their next game will definetly still have some niche stuff, but will need to be based on a more vanilla setting, so they can please MOST of their customers. (it's impossible to please everybody). If that's not the case, they are going to limit themselves to a small niche and lose potential customers. Then, they will have no real success in the industry, remaining a small studio like many others.

 

[MLBnoob]

I just searched "cuck" and "NTR" in the reddit, its clean as Mr. Clean's bald head, but it honestly just says that they are deleting posts with those subjects, AKA hiding Mr. Clean's dirty shit. Reminds me of mods here, they lack the diplomatic and mature side so they just go delete stuff like the SS or Soviet Union stuff even if it is a non-troll, but I digress.

Reminds me also when I went to the Cyberpunk 2077 reddit to have a discussion about Third Person Perspective as being a cut feature to divert resources to other shit (like Multiplayer), I was expecting a healthy debate but instead I was flamed on and my post was deleted. That kind of actions from the community probably made the Devs feel a little relaxed about releasing shit, because their community licks CDPR's asshole, then all the reactions hit and here we are. I think thats gonna happen to Subverse, once it releases its gonna be hard policing those threads and reddit; they are probably gonna get flamed for awhile and then *poop* sales are poor, Studio FOW's reputation is tarnished and I'll be laughing both at the studio and to those who blindly follow them.

BTW I both like and dislike devs writing stories outside of the influence of the audience:
1. Because they write their stories whether it be good or shitty (oops where did the white knights go?)
2. Because the devs or writers feel like they are king and that any positive reaction is good and any negative constructive reaction is dismissed. And if the game goes under there is no sight of white knights, or even a public acknowledgement about the failure to heed the negative non-troll reviews.
3. Experienced devs (present in this site) know what riles up people and take note of their own precautions when writing a story (minimal to no sound complaints). New devs expect the same minimal reactions but then niche content (voyeur of a future LI being fucked with fucking animations or etc.) makes people rage when the dev should really have spent time having a general feel to the site and played popular games, so its mostly the dev's fault.
4. It produces games that become popular that doesn't exactly follow the norm (COBD, Depraved Awakening, De Luca Family, BADIK, Summertime saga and etc.,).

Humans adapt Devs should take time to think and perhaps adapt, that said Studio FOW should also adapt according to the majority of their fans and not deafen their ears.

 

[drakar]

Humans adapt Devs should take time to think and perhaps adapt, that said Studio FOW should also adapt according to the majority of their fans and not deafen their ears.

100% agree with you there.
It is safe to assume the majority of backers are not into cuck/ntr neither are ok with it and the campaign lead people to believe there would be optional cuck/ntr, this could lead to an interesting situation where they become the "EA Games" of porn further hurting the studio brand and minimizing backing for later projects.

And specifically about the "not deafen their ears", there is an Fow insider among us, he replied to this thread even, so at least one of them is listening, the question is "will they take this information and do something with it? Other than ignoring it, that is".

 

[Crow Armbrust]

When the game comes out, will it be complete with all the chapters or will only some chapters come out and do you have to wait for the others to come out? I ask this because this game is not very complex xD