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No, I had enough information, I watched FOW from the beginning with their animated adult parodies. For example, the short film Lara in Trouble or Kunoichi Broken Princess. I was expecting an adventure that would, among other things, mix elements of asteroids and battle ground, not just these two mini-games for main gameplay. I expected choices in dialogues, interactivity in sex scenes as well. So I find Gons Raid Her a much more fun erotic game. The game picked up 2 million + on the kickstarter. Was it wrong to expect something more AAA than just such a mini-game? I think there were a lot of promises. Big game, a revolution in the genre. Mass Effect for adult. But this is miles away.
Tbf callling it 'mass effect, but adult' is more from articles writing about it. You couldn't possibly expect a game like Mass Effect to be done by folks on their first attempt with such a small budget (yes that is a small budget in comparison to the games you'd like it to be). People also inflated the gameplay comparing it to XCOM, when its really more comparable to smaller Grid-based games like Final Fantasy Tactics (One of the dev diaries is even named Tactics Ass-vanced, to further prove that).

Subverse was designed to be a game with porn, not the other way around. So everyone that's been going in thinking the sex would be upfront, yeah are gonna be disappointed, but if you didn't read into the diaries and dev process, then that's kinda on you. You have to play the game and work for the smut.

And again calling the main gameplay minigames is kinda insulting when bullet hell shooters, and grid-based tactical RPG's are genres all on their own. If its easy sure, but then its only the beginning of the game, its not gonna be that difficult immediately, there are planned to be harder difficulty scenarios later in the game.
 

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And again calling the main gameplay minigames is kinda insulting when bullet hell shooters, and grid-based tactical RPG's are genres all on their own. If its easy sure, but then its only the beginning of the game, its not gonna be that difficult immediately, there are planned to be harder difficulty scenarios later in the game.
Seeing people post on the steam forums and demand for skips and cheats to make it easier.. idk about everyone find it easy though :p
 

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And again calling the main gameplay minigames is kinda insulting when bullet hell shooters, and grid-based tactical RPG's are genres all on their own. If its easy sure, but then its only the beginning of the game, its not gonna be that difficult immediately, there are planned to be harder difficulty scenarios later in the game.
Pretty legit to call them minigames. Even if they are core part of the game, they are uninventive and simple. You cant compare them to games where they are main mechanic.
 

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Pretty legit to call them minigames. Even if they are core part of the game, they are uninventive and simple. You cant compare them to games where they are main mechanic.
So, what bullet hell game can't it compare to then?
 

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Pretty legit to call them minigames. Even if they are core part of the game, they are uninventive and simple. You cant compare them to games where they are main mechanic.
They're simple cuz its their first game, they didn't want to do something that complex for their first title ever. You don't create Grand Theft Auto off the bat, you work up to that level.
 

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I didn't even know that there was an update to this game, since I only check f95 for updates. But, is this thread not being updated because the update isn't worth or is it something else? Again, I only use f95 because this is the only site I know.
 

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I didn't even know that there was an update to this game, since I only check f95 for updates. But, is this thread not being updated because the update isn't worth or is it something else? Again, I only use f95 because this is the only site I know.
The thread OP may not be updated, but people have posted the latest version - just scroll up the comments a bit and you'll see the newer version.
 
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I didn't even know that there was an update to this game, since I only check f95 for updates. But, is this thread not being updated because the update isn't worth or is it something else? Again, I only use f95 because this is the only site I know.
there's only been a number of small patches and a gallery feature added thus far. The next content update is still being worked on.
 

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They're simple cuz its their first game, they didn't want to do something that complex for their first title ever. You don't create Grand Theft Auto off the bat, you work up to that level.
If Rockstar had released "GTA1" today, I doubt it would been that popular..... GTA franchise had a evolution from then to now. First time game dev's with a limited budget doesn't have the luxury to splurge, they need to play it safe. Rockstar that been milking GTA5 for 8 years, they can afford to do whatever the f they want.

 

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Cuphead, touhou and ton of other japan game series.
Cuphead is more a platformer that got more in common with mega man, mario, turrican, whatever. touhou been in evolution ever since 1996, it's not even geared towards casual players. If FOW did make that game element in their game that hard, it would make the outcry even louder. There is people who already call the bullet hell part to hard as it is.

If you like that kind of punishment when playing, of course YOU would find that type of game better. But average Joe that want to progress through the game to get more boobies and kittens to watch would go into tantrums...
 

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Has anybody just extracted the scenes only or make a 4k movie of only the sex scenes?
 

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subversefan69 said:
You can't call them minigames just because they act as minigames in the playloop and only exist to pad since there is no other core gameplay mechanic, not even a companion relation system, meaning otherwise the "game" would literally just be cutscenes.
subversefan69 said:
You can't compare the Xcom combat to Xcom from 1994 or literally every isometric combat game ever and you can't compare the bullethell to literally every arcade style shooter ever.
subversefan69 said:
It's their first game, you expected them to make it good? To not just jam two prepackaged addons together without any mechanical depth or a combat progression loop?

I paid for this so you have to accept it too.
subversefan69 said:
Yeah the gameplay is bad and the porn isn't integrated into the storyline

...But? No, I was done typing.
subversefan69 said:
HEY! This is a real game with conventional gameplay for adults not a porn game, you can't compare it to better porngames or porn games with combat systems!
HEY! You can't compare this to any conventional game, it's just a... uh..."
It's just sad at a certain point. :HideThePain:

There are porngames with combat progression loops. Many aren't good, some are ok, some are so good it overshadows the pornographic part of the game. It's a bad bet, making a Hgame that relies on one but Subverse doesn't even have one. It's just two repetitive minigames with no forward progression of mechanics or difficulty. The space "boss fights" are just one time use minigames which change nothing about the gameplay, characterized by tedium. And even if it was "good" it has pioneered nothing. They've put no unique flair on any of it. Not even the tin metal of sexy fighting/content on lose thats a genre staple. It wasn't in the asset pack.

Self respect might be a stretch, but come on have some standards for content. You're the consoooomer here. It's in devhell early access which means they 'could' change these things; recut the script, put a paltry few thousand into new VA, add in passible combat upgrade and difficulty progression to radiant combat, integrate the porn scenes with context as part of a companion relation system. Easy roadmap to press print on a better game.

The fact you've positioned yourselves to be mad if they handed you a better product by ignoring you "fans" is a head scratcher.
 

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can you please send me a guide to how to use the cheat engine and the cheat in the game?
cuz i downloaded it but i don't know what to do with that...
and i don't know how the cheat engine works so i hope u can help me
 
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