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Unreal Engine Subverse [v0.9] [Studio Fow]
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Innovation is good and all so long it has balance with whatever they trying to put out on the table. I don't think Subverse offers that as of now, though I probably stick around and see how it goes for them in the future. And there are a lot of variables as to what sort of "innovation" people had in mind. For me, I wanted Subverse to be very engaging gameplay whilst having the same porn quality as any FOW video releases -- though I must say that it could be another few years before Subverse is as polished and has contents that I can say it was worth the money I've spent. If reviews can be neutral, I'd probably consider it for new players to buy this game.
If I don't want any innovation on porn games, then I just stick to whatever that people put out these days that got abandoned and simp for it all day and act like a white knight for it.
I try to find a balance between the good, the bad, and the ugly of Subverse in a way that I can speak for myself and within my POV. The fact that FOW is one of the leading teams to make a Triple-A porn game (the other being Project Helius's Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft, which has slightly monstrous rig requirements) is a breath of fresh air.
I do think that the assessment is fair that I "bit the hand that feeds me" because such talents within the FOW team can be enhanced more had they rode the momentum that they've built up. ^^
Do correct me if I got some accounts wrong.
Idk about recently, but for instance on this site when the game first dropped it instantly went to 4-5 stars based on hype. But then when everyone finally downloaded the thing and played it, a lot of people were upset about how the sex scenes were completely disconnected from the rest of the game. It was like someone took (very high quality) looped animations, stapled to a mediocre shoot-em-up, duct taped to a lore-dump of a story with Not-Deadpool ™ as the MC. The elements didn't gel together well, even though all of them individually might work decently on paper.
EDIT: Just looked it up, and there haven't been a "bomb" of negative reviews since November of last year. It looks like it just gets more negative reviews than postive on average since that point, probably because the game isn't very good, or (charitably) isn't what people hoped it would be.
- Aug 11, 2017
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The vast majority of FOW's releases were dark and/or extreme in tone, far more than just the Kunoichi series. Just scrolling down the works still listed on their website we have:
- Bioshag Trinity : Last act is gangrape.
- Lara In Trouble: Entirely gangrape.
- Mila Red Riding Hood: Monster Gangbang
- Kunoichi 1-3: Monsters, Tentacles, Bestiality, lots and lots of gangrape
- Songbird's Shame: Gangrape
- Severance: Gangrape
- Scarlet Nights: Bestiality & Rape
- Nier First Assembly: Monster Sex
- Nightmare Code Valentine: Monster & Tentacle Rape
- Ghosts of Paradise: Gangrape
- Project Snow : Monster Gangrape
The only pure vanilla thing they did that I can remember was Siren's Call. And that's just their movies, their shorts are also 90%+ gangrape, rape, bestiality, or some other extreme fetish.
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- Feb 17, 2021
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I hate to bump the thread but why was there an influx of users rating the Subverse thread. Did something happen? I sat thinking there was a major release from some other thread with the amount of alerts my notification bell showed.
- Jun 26, 2017
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A new patch was released recently. People returned to cast their ratings or they picked it up for the first time because it may have gotten brought up somewhere.
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I agreewith that the poses are generally vanilla but goddamn man they're fucking robots and aliens, not QUITE 100% vanilla
I guess they went to helius afterwards lmao
- Dec 9, 2017
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*deep breath*
Just gonna gloss over how Bioshag’s 1st scene is femdom and 2nd is consensual.
There’s a dream sequence in the middle of Nightmare that’s plain ol vanilla.
Mila Red Riding features consensual monster sex, and a ton of 4th wall breaking humor, and is probably the film that Subverse derives most of its tone from.
Also lest we forget the Kunoichi films had a certain niche of plugging in the Scout from TF2 for absolutely out of place absurd cameos. Until the supporters killed him off by reaching 9,999 on Patreon (a goal they set because they never thought they’d get that high. Those were the days).
So to say FOW is only known for one thing is just wrong.
But then they set new milestones, one of which was a game, beyond that of the adobe flash movies they’d done before. Unity didn’t work for them, so they began experimenting with UE4.
Then the Patreon rug was pulled, unjustly, as tons of smut makers still remain on the site. FOW and other popular makers like animopron were just offed due to being some of the highest earners so they could look nice to the credit card companies.
Thankfully FOW was smart about their finances and didn’t blow everything on blackjack and hookers so they retained their team and decided to bet on themselves, going all in on the game project. Since as history has proven once they start something, they finish it.
So months later their kickstarter goes up, and was that a fun period. Breaking records, getting ready excited for an adult game that would be far more than just your basic VN with branching choices or a match-3 game, but a game with full voice acting, an actual plot with heroes and villains. An original IP to serve as a good fallback should their parody work cause them trouble again in the future.
Naturally bumps occur, it being their first game and all. They aren’t quite sure how they’ll go about developing and releasing it. Many misunderstand the 2019 dates in its rewards as actual release dates (like any game is finished in a year, right Milfy city, something unlimited, and so on?). Further divides are caused when FOW initially cancels early access, leading to much disappointment, including a certain sect of folk to instantly turn on the project forever. The decision was made as going by a week by week process would be even slower than working on it as a whole. But by the end of the year the decision is modified, changing to a different method of early access. Rather than a weekly basis of updating the game, it would instead be developed in large chunks at a time, delivering hours of content each release. Whoever wants to play the game can and give feedback, while anyone else who would prefer to wait for the whole game has that option, as the keys the backers got entitled them to the full game.
Launch goes well, climbing to the number two spot in sales in its release period, something unheard of for an adult game. There’s of course negative responses, namely from people that didn’t research the game at all, and assumed from FOW’s rep and the trailer that was would be some Kunoichi style story with a hybrid of Mass Effect and XCOM level of gameplay. Which to expect from a first time dev is ludicrous to expect. If one looked into the game’s dev diaries, which were public to all to read, or listen to the various interviews the staff or VA’s have done, they’d have known what they were buying. As for the tone, the trailer’s ought to have indicated it, but it is a very specific kind of humor that won’t fly with everyone. Mixed together with an actual serious story about sexual freedom and the right to do what and whomever you please.
A common consensus though is that the smut needed work. And for the millionth time, I will repeat that I myself agreed with this notion.
But still, the game is a work in progress, so one can only surmise so much right now. They’re still here working on it, despite everything, taking in every bit of customer feedback they see.
All the while gaining time with the engine they’ll be developing future films in. So instead of starting with Lara in Trouble levels of filmmaking, breaking their backs to make an ancient program like SFM look good, they’ll already be where they were by the end of K3 in terms of experience.
*exhales*
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming of calling me a paid fanboy schill secret employee while damning the game for not being everything you wanted it be, but still coming back every update to see what’s new. As you were, gents
- Oct 24, 2017
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Personally I just hope they get this thing done soon and get back to making videos. Nothing I've seen makes me want to play this. Unless the mostly all vanilla sex content is all they're gonna do now. (wouldn't surprise me, tbh)
- Dec 9, 2017
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The game is more or less gonna be vanilla as they can stretch it. Didn’t want to chance their big venture possibly getting removed by steam.
By no means does that mean they’re leaving their old ways, just expanding what they can do
- May 10, 2017
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You need to learn to make your points in fewer words, especially when you focus on the wrong thing
It wasn't even specifically about the money, Subverse had a huge amount of free publicity, at the time I would say far more people where made aware of it than any other adult game being made, you can still google it and see it's name appear in news articles, which cannot be said of other adult games. That in itself is worth a lot, that's something any new product loves, public attention. But now post release having a quick look at the Subverse subreddit, it gets a tiny fraction of the traffic that the Being a Dik subreddit gets and Being a Dik is inbetween updates when it's on a lull.
So not even making it about getting the money they got, simply people being made aware of other games, would have been better, far less disappointment.
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Uh yeah I know, but I can't download 1 and 6 from AnonFiles, it keeps failing that's my problem
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Is it still simulator of a videoplayer? Or raunchy scenes are now tied to the plot? i heard that devs were addressing the issue.
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