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Alizz

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^pretty much summary what is game is. A game with porn without a porn.
Not to mention absolute mess to mix shrum and turn-based. Even worse than some fps/rts mix.
Simple thing to add some value to gameplay will be win/lose scenes with actual stuff and not only that 'captain' room thingy.
 
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Mr. Weeaboo

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Do yall think that Celestina and Kasidora will get some lewd scenes?
Someone else answered but for more detail, Kasidora’s casting specified it being a SFW role. Celestina’s did not.

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No new character added
We’re at 9/10 ladies, and fow-chan was described as the endgame waifu. So more likely than not, she’ll be along with the rest of the game at 1.0
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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Star Citizen is actually a good comparison since both suffer from the same thing - complete lack of direction. Subverse just doesn't have any meaningful game design and fails at both being good adult game and being good game in general.

They asked for money not knowing exactly what they want to make and how to make it so it was just a huge money sink on unnecessary stuff. This game doesn't even need to be in 3D and rendered in real time because no scenes aside lame photo mode even have free camera. They could've make it on something like RenPy ffs with sprites made of renders and sex loops being just video files and the game would be very similar while costing a fraction of what they spent.

With a proper direction this game could've been absolutely goat and a great example that (relatively) high budget adult games can be successful but instead it's just another warning sign to not give your money to back early access products.
‘Lacks proper direction’

Well considering the director is the same guy that cofounded and has led FOW FOW and kept it alive the last…10 years, I’m gonna say they’re fine in that department.

“Could’ve made it on something like Ren’Py”

And been like more than half of the games on this site? Pretty much exactly the opposite of what FOW does. Could it have been smaller scale? Sure if their Patreon was still up, this would’ve been the thing on the side as they kept delivering films.

But they got what they asked for and so much more. Bigger budget and milestones, the bigger the scale. But they were also smart to not add more than they needed. That is the very big difference between it and Star Citizen. Not being bogged down by feature creep.

“Instead it's just another warning sign to not give your money to back early access products”

Yeah don’t know what you’re smoking, cause this has been the most transparent development for a game. I’ve seen so many game devs go dark for months, barely updating with content. Like the golden example is right here, one of tne most viewed and replied threads on the site, Milfy City. There’s your small-scale Renpy game that took years to ‘complete’ (the game is still adding routes as we speak, so if you think about it that’s been in early access this whole time without saying it). Compared to Subverse, which was penned out with an actual script, is fully voiced in every part of the game, not just the smut, delivers high quality cinematics in 4k (which btw is likely what the devotion scenes will also be at), and has actual gameplay in it beyond some basic clicker, and I just do not comprehend how people see this as a bad thing.

And that’s without mentioning the blog posts that have been monthly since the EA launched, you couldn’t be any less in the dark about what they were doing and what was coming next unless you were blatantly trying to be.



^pretty much summary what is game is. A game with porn without a porn.
Not to mention absolute mess to mix shrum and turn-based. Even worse than some fps/rts mix.
Simple thing to add some value to gameplay will be win/lose scenes with actual stuff and not only that 'captain' room thingy.
Gameplay wise they elected for something simple but fun. What exactly is messy about ship shooting and grid combat? One’s been around since the arcades and the other’s based off Final Fantasy Tactics’s style.

There were never gonna be any losing game over scenes like in other games. The sex in Subverse is consensual.

You say simple, but that’s extra stuff they cannot be doing right now. Post-launch, who knows maybe enough money is made when it exits EA.
 

deiter69

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And as I said before, they don’t need to add more scenes right now. There’s nothing to test there aside from now fast you can get a wank off.

And if every scene was in the game aside from devotion, what else would you be tempted with to play the thing? Pretending as though y’all bought it, and didn’t just wait for a save file with everything unlocked, defeating the purpose of it being a game.

They did hint at possibly doing VR scenes but I don’t see that occurring til post 1.0
Well maybe if the game wasn't a long ass boring grind to get through, people would actually enjoy playing it and not just download a save file.
 
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Mr. Weeaboo

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Well maybe if the game wasn't a long ass boring grind to get through, people would actually enjoy playing it and not just download a save file.
Just a few tidbits from the FAQ's. Which went up the same day as the campaign.

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It was never hidden how long this game was intended to be. It wasn't gonna be something you sped through in a day.


That aside, they spoke of redoing the experience system in various dev blogs. The two bars we've had will be combined into a single one, with rewards posted among various levels.


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That will be coming in 1.0, along with numerous other changes that'll result in a different experience. Which is the main reason why saves will be wiped clean upon its release.
 
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Nakna

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i hope u get paid for these posts mr weeaboo because otherwise lol

either way nothingburger update on a game that got ruined in the first 10 seconds when mr bong smug BET HES WANKING HIS LITTLE PECKER voice actor pipes up, dead on arrival and unfixable
best they can do at this point is export the videos and shove them into renpy
 
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They should have just made porn. Instead this is a boring gameplay loop with completely unrelated porn scenes. They should have just done like a visual novel or something. Its clear they are completely out of their depths as game designers. And its made worse by the fact they got launched with almost TWO MILLION dollars of starting revenue.
 
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Mr. Weeaboo

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i hope u get paid for these posts mr weeaboo because otherwise lol

either way nothingburger update on a game that got ruined in the first 10 seconds when mr bong smug BET HES WANKING HIS LITTLE PECKER voice actor pipes up, dead on arrival and unfixable
best they can do at this point is export the videos and shove them into renpy
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Gee never heard that one before the last 5 years.

Ya'll ever consider maybe the fact they're still going and have almost completed the game that "Maybe we aren't the best at predicting success"
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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They should have just made porn. Instead this is a boring gameplay loop with completely unrelated porn scenes. They should have just done like a visual novel or something. Its clear they are completely out of their depths as game designers. And its made worse by the fact they got launched with almost TWO MILLION dollars of starting revenue.
Oh good the budget thing again. Its funny you mention the game designers thing, because ya know...they hired actual game devs with that money. And they aren't cheap, nor should they be.
 

Ivanov91

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Don't talk shit then, ya hater :p If you can't take logical explanations, get out the forum.
What logical explanations, dude? That they spent all that money to hire ppl who decided that the gameplay would be 2 mini game loops that are the definition of boredom 30 minutes into the game?

If you can't comprehend that constructive criticism =/= hate, then follow your own advice, and get out of the forum.
 
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People bickering on a forum dedicated to porn games.

Have to respect the ambition behind the project and there is quality animations, but a combination of the animations being completely removed from the story, grindy game mechanics, and the fact the devotion rewards won't be available until 1.0 really hampers my enthusiasm for the project. Pretty much forced to wait until a full release to feel investing countless hours into a porn game is at all worth it.
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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What logical explanations, dude? That they spent all that money to hire ppl who decided that the gameplay would be 2 mini game loops that are the definition of boredom 30 minutes into the game?

If you can't comprehend that constructive criticism =/= hate, then follow your own advice, and get out of the forum.
Yeah but there's a difference between constructive criticism and 'They should've done ___". Because at this point it is faaar too late to argue about what they could've or could not do. Nor is it constructive to be like 'look game budget means we should've gotten Mass Effect but porn', while not being aware that even with millions, it is still a small fraction of what AAA titles get.

Throughout these years, you know how many posts there've been of people either wishing this would fail, or on the opposite end, also believing they'd milk this forever? Its as though people are convinced that you could never make a game of this scale and also have it be adult themed. And here we are on the home stretch, and its still negatively skewed that way.

It shouldn't be "This isn't exactly how I wanted it to be, therefore game failure", it should be "This might not appeal to me specifically, but I applaud the devs for undertaking a project of this size, not abandoning it like so many other games I've played on this website, and I'll just wait to see what they do next"


People bickering on a forum dedicated to porn games.

Have to respect the ambition behind the project and there is quality animations, but a combination of the animations being completely removed from the story, grindy game mechanics, and the fact the devotion rewards won't be available until 1.0 really hampers my enthusiasm for the project. Pretty much forced to wait until a full release to feel investing countless hours into a porn game is at all worth it.
You're more than welcome to wait, some fans on the discord, including some mods, have been patient enough the whole time.

The bickering's just silly in the long run, because its an in-development title, and much of the critique just comes from those who don't want to actually play a game that takes effort to unlock the smut and just fap to it. Which is fine, just wait for the lower quality rule34video upload and wank your anger away. But don't knock the devs for creating an actual game to go along with it.

The whole point of early access is to play it and give feedback to the devs. The devs...are not reading shit here lol. So complaining about it here is just screaming into a void. They have an entire feedback channel on their very public Discord. If you wanted to make your feelings actually heard, that'd be the place to do it.
 

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1.0 will be considered the complete story. I imagine they'll still need to add things after, like the backer tiered DLC.
That is what I wanted to hear because I'm patiently waiting for the Full Version to come out.
Same thing I'm doing for The Genesis Order which should come out Mid April hopefully.
 
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