You are a like the other guy that was always in this forum and defended this game.Don't talk shit then, ya hater If you can't take logical explanations, get out the forum.
Oh I've been waiting on TGO as well. Was a real trek for Treasure of Nadia's biweekly updates, and I just couldn't do that again. Wait a couple weeks, then download it all over again for like a micro-bit of story and one or two scenes is ehhh xDThat is what I wanted to hear because I'm patiently waiting for the Full Version to come out.
Same thing I'm doing for The Genesis Order which should come out Mid April hopefully.
Replies like this, are the reason why ppl think you're paid to glaze the devs, and I've seen another person doing the same (think his nick was VValen or something).Yeah but there's a difference between constructive criticism and 'They should've done ___". Because at this point it is faaar too late to argue about what they could've or could not do. Nor is it constructive to be like 'look game budget means we should've gotten Mass Effect but porn', while not being aware that even with millions, it is still a small fraction of what AAA titles get.
Throughout these years, you know how many posts there've been of people either wishing this would fail, or on the opposite end, also believing they'd milk this forever? Its as though people are convinced that you could never make a game of this scale and also have it be adult themed. And here we are on the home stretch, and its still negatively skewed that way.
It shouldn't be "This isn't exactly how I wanted it to be, therefore game failure", it should be "This might not appeal to me specifically, but I applaud the devs for undertaking a project of this size, not abandoning it like so many other games I've played on this website, and I'll just wait to see what they do next"
You're more than welcome to wait, some fans on the discord, including some mods, have been patient enough the whole time.
The bickering's just silly in the long run, because its an in-development title, and much of the critique just comes from those who don't want to actually play a game that takes effort to unlock the smut and just fap to it. Which is fine, just wait for the lower quality rule34video upload and wank your anger away. But don't knock the devs for creating an actual game to go along with it.
The whole point of early access is to play it and give feedback to the devs. The devs...are not reading shit here lol. So complaining about it here is just screaming into a void. They have an entire feedback channel on their very public Discord. If you wanted to make your feelings actually heard, that'd be the place to do it.
To be fair, he's not "dismissing" them, he's challenging people's opinion and offering stats and information.Are you paid to defend things and because I am not even trying to rude but the lengths you go to dismiss other people's valid criticism, is really fucking obnoxious.
Oh I was fully aware the initial launch was gonna tick a lot of people with as little as it had to start. Its no wonder they changed their development strategy about halfway through in regards to waifu updates.You are a like the other guy that was always in this forum and defended this game.
I find it interesting to know what criticisms you have of the game.
For me
- Main story is ok
- Side story are for me boring
- combat gets repetitive (I liked it this first couple of hours, but now its always the same, boring)
- not enough sex scenes.
- sex scenes are definitely missing dirty talk
- And it seems like there hired for a character (Kasidora or Celestina) a voice actress that does not do NSFW jobs. When this is true, then they have done a extremely stupid decision. (I am not sure if this is true or not)
- and much more
In the end for me its a bad porn game and a bad game in general.
That is such a stupid decision, it was clear since the beginning that they are enough people out there that want to see porn from a character like this in a porn game.Kasidora's character (the older Senu) was specified as being a SFW role in the casting. The VA being it is also going by a pseudonym, which means they're likely someone with a very public presense and doesn't want this on their resume (which given how we treat sex workers, is not a surprise).
Can you explain how that's ironic btw?To be fair, he's not "dismissing" them, he's challenging people's opinion and offering stats and information.
Most people on this board (or on the internet in general) just offer their opinion based on their own perception. Which is fine, don't get me wrong, but more often than not those opinions are simply wrong. No matter how strongly you feel about it, it doesn't make it automatically true. Hence why I appreciate some reason within all this chaos, honestly. As should you - Even if it means being on the wrong side of the fence at times.
On a sidenote, as to somewhat prove my point, I for example find people obnoxious that just keep shitting on games/products for absolutely nonsensical reasons without so much as offering some valuable insight on their thought-process, if there ever was any.
And while it's true that this game in particular has it's shortcomings (let's not kid ourselves, there is no game that doesn't have it's flaws so why should this one be an exception?) can we also agree that it's in this sea of low quality VNs and otherwise nice attempts of smut-games is still an outstanding product? There's not much else you can compare it to and while it certainly could do better it also has great things going for it.
If people focus just on the negative aspects, I mean, .. that's on them.
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It's by the way very ironic accusing that guy of "dismissing" opinions while also saying he's getting paid by the devs.
There are simply rare people like you and I who are patient for things... Don't worry man. I understand you! Patience is like petrol, disappearing as time goes by!Oh I've been waiting on TGO as well. Was a real trek for Treasure of Nadia's biweekly updates, and I just couldn't do that again. Wait a couple weeks, then download it all over again for like a micro-bit of story and one or two scenes is ehhh xD
Gee its almost like...I'm the same guy in a different formReplies like this, are the reason why ppl think you're paid to glaze the devs, and I've seen another person doing the same (think his nick was VValen or something).
The facts are the facts - not even a month after the initial game release, the devs received ALL the criticism that they needed to improve the game, which were mainly that the mini games were repetitive and boring, and the Pandora system being separate from the actual gameplay, made the game just feel bad.
So they had all the time in the world to fix these issues, they only doubled down, and you expect a different reaction out of people? Personally, I'm one of the idiots who actually bought the game, and it's one of my biggest fucking regrets to this day, since I was lied to my face repeatedly, and nothing was done when I explained what my grievances were.
Overall, you're defending the indefensible, in the poorest way possible.
Man I didn't think it'd take this long to find another person that looks at things rationally and not personally.To be fair, he's not "dismissing" them, he's challenging people's opinion and offering stats and information.
Most people on this board (or on the internet in general) just offer their opinion based on their own perception. Which is fine, don't get me wrong, but more often than not those opinions are simply wrong. No matter how strongly you feel about it, it doesn't make it automatically true. Hence why I appreciate some reason within all this chaos, honestly. As should you - Even if it means being on the wrong side of the fence at times.
On a sidenote, as to somewhat prove my point, I for example find people obnoxious that just keep shitting on games/products for absolutely nonsensical reasons without so much as offering some valuable insight on their thought-process, if there ever was any.
And while it's true that this game in particular has it's shortcomings (let's not kid ourselves, there is no game that doesn't have it's flaws so why should this one be an exception?) can we also agree that it's in this sea of low quality VNs and otherwise nice attempts of smut-games is still an outstanding product? There's not much else you can compare it to and while it certainly could do better it also has great things going for it.
If people focus just on the negative aspects, I mean, .. that's on them.
It's doing literally the thing they are accusing him of; dismissing (in this case 'his') opinions.Can you explain how that's ironic btw?
The biggest mistake they made IMO was taking to long to release the 0.1 version. It was clear straight away that things weren’t working how they should.You are a like the other guy that was always in this forum and defended this game.
I find it interesting to know what criticisms you have of the game.
For me
- Main story is ok
- Side story are for me boring
- combat gets repetitive (I liked it this first couple of hours, but now its always the same, boring)
- not enough sex scenes.
- sex scenes are definitely missing dirty talk
- And it seems like there hired for a character (Kasidora or Celestina) a voice actress that does not do NSFW jobs. When this is true, then they have done a extremely stupid decision. (I am not sure if this is true or not)
- and much more
In the end for me its a bad porn game and a bad game in general.
Well I wanted to address yours first, and I'm sure you've noticed there's a lot of chatter replying to me at the moment xDThat is such a stupid decision, it was clear since the beginning that they are enough people out there that want to see porn from a character like this in a porn.
They should just cast all female characters with NSFW voice actress in the case, that the community wants to see porn from this character. I have seen enough people wishing for Kasidora and Celestina porn.
You are talking about my criticisms.
What about your criticisms?
What do you think is bad?
What should be better?
Do you have any suggestions for improvement?
Not dismissing your initial line but I would like to note that this was funded in 2019, and things did kinda change the world by the end of 2019 xD. Especially for a team that's split across the world and not in a central location, that couldn't have been easy to organize.The biggest mistake they made IMO was taking to long to release the 0.1 version. It was clear straight away that things weren’t working how they should.
The changes would have been easy to make had the released 0.1 in 3 months from the Kickstarter rather than a year. 3 major changes could have been identified.
- 1. The gameplay to story breakdown. What you got and continue to get is 20 minute plus, story scenes made of either cut scenes or visual novel style scenes. This should be broken down to do a few missions then 5 minutes of story then a few missions, rinse repeat.
- 2. Pandora should have been different from day one. Ideally all H scenes would have been built into the story, however given this was unlikely this is the solution.
- 2a. Captain scenes should have unlocked as the story progressed. Each one made of 5 segments, Tease, Foreplay, sex 1, sex 2 with cumshot and after. (these structure could vary but each scene would have a narrative when together)
- 2b. Toy scenes. When a new toy is purchased (or unlocked) in game, a similar 5 part scene structure is unlocked.
- 2c. Mantids would work the same as soon as you get the genetic code and Lily makes them their 5 part scene structure gets added.
- 2d. Finally all Pandora should have been made as to include dirty talk, this could have turned a simple 9 second loop into a 27 or even 36 second loop easily. Loop one Dirty talk line 1, loops two dirty talk 2, loop three dirty talk line 3, loop four 4 no line rinse and repeat. Could even be randomised the long the loop runs.
- 3. Combat should have been made so you feel more dominant. It’s okay as it is but would be way more fun if you picked up power ups during each fight so the later in the fight the easier it gets (Like other Shootem ups)
I mean that's kinda why they threw the roadmap out? Like I don't know if you noticed, but the end of 2019...a lot of things didn't make their projected release dates. Other video games...hundreds of films...like it wasn't just Subverse that didn't make its expected dates xDIt's kind of scary how this game blew past any and all roadmaps they had early on and is slowly turn into a worse Star Citizen without the same money-making scheme lol.
They should cut their losses and move on, but whatever.
That sounds an awful like dismissing and you actually think dismissing their perception is a good point. Perception is the aim of the game, that is what media is all about. If someone is not enjoying it, saying there perception is wrong is not a valid defence.To be fair, he's not "dismissing" them, he's challenging people's opinion and offering stats and information.
Most people on this board (or on the internet in general) just offer their opinion based on their own perception
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It's by the way very ironic accusing that guy of "dismissing" opinions while also saying he's getting paid by the devs.