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Readerf2b

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As a person who have no idea how models work, is it possible to steal a model from Honey Select and put it into UE4? I mean, not make new exactly same looking, but transfer it as it is? I have some doubts about it.
 

C'thun

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As a person who have no idea how models work, is it possible to steal a model from Honey Select and put it into UE4? I mean, not make new exactly same looking, but transfer it as it is? I have some doubts about it.
If a model is extracted i believe that it becomes same as any model made in 3d software. That is how all the animations with game models based on existing games are made as far as i know. I would be shocked if all these Witcher, Batman and Overwatch models were remade from scratch.
 

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If a model is extracted i believe that it becomes same as any model made in 3d software. That is how all the animations with game models based on existing games are made as far as i know. I would be shocked if all these Witcher, Batman and Overwatch models were remade from scratch.
I dont think so. Models made in different programs will have different coding. Extracted from one they cant just be inserted into another, since numbers will not correlate to visual parameters. And Witcher, Batman and Overwatch models are made from scratch - they are just look alike, not a carbon copies.
 

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I dont think so. Models made in different programs will have different coding. Extracted from one they cant just be inserted into another, since numbers will not correlate to visual parameters. And Witcher, Batman and Overwatch models are made from scratch - they are just look alike, not a carbon copies.
Models made in Maya and Zbrush can be exported and imported between themselves easily in OBJ or FBX format. That is also correct for Fusion, Max and etc. UVs come in the same file. Not sure about textures and maps. I've seen models from Doom 2016 opened in Max so i believe when they are extracted from games they still do have OBJ or FBX format. Did not know about Witcher, Batman and Overwatch models though. That is indeed means that i do not some part of the whole deal. I do modelling but never delved into extracting part of it all.

Edit: UE4 also imports models in the same FBX format.
 

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My question is, who thinks Subverse is equivalent to a AAA experience? Tactical RPGs and space shooters are literally the epitome of anything besides a mainstream experience. If the animations were supposed to be the draw, even they can't even be called spectacular, as there were already Unreal Engine quality animations out on the internet for free. So aside from its gimmick of being a visible porn game on Steam. Because the aforementioned genres have titles that provide FAR better than what this game provides.

Outside of this initial hype I can see this game dying off quite quickly and fading into obscurity, if it can't do anything do distinguish itself.



Do you feel this is attracting mainstream attention? More than any other porn game on Steam has. Really, I can't tell. Because there's been porn in the bestseller section before. And on that topic in the latter section do you think 'real game devs' are better? Because there's been several games that been dropped and forgotten by 'real developers' because their studios found the game wasn't successful. Just as games here suddenly end up cancelled.
You can't pitch Subverse as a triple A title experience when consider the game industry as whole. You have to pitch it up against other games in similar genre (adult games). How many games in that genre had similar funding? That is what you should compare against imho...

If looking back at what games got most flare in the adult section of steam lately, only Hunie Pop 2 double date come to mind. Price in my region quite similar to Subverse as well. That game made my dick flatline out of boredom. Then again candy crush and similar games never been my thing, not even when sprinkled with supposedly lewd stuff.
 

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Triple A quality is quick, snappy, and addicting gameplay. Subverse is anything but quick and snappy. While it maybe addicting it appeals to different audience than the crowd that fans of this game seems to think will buy into the game because of its production budget.
No, Triple A is a phrase the game industry started to use to reflect the money spent on development... You know like the 600 million USD budget rumored from GTA6...... That make it a Triple A. Also Triple A doesn't reflect actually quality of a game. Anthem, F76, Cyberpunk... list goes on and on and on...

Triple A experience could just as well translate to go to a fancy restaurant spend a fortune, get served several dishes of minuscule portions you end up doesn't even like the taste of. Leave hungry and drop into a local McDonalds to pick up something because you still hungry...
 
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Oops teehee, didn't realize normal users can call this trash out for what it is but a "new" profile gets censored. Good moderation! Also for free
Nah, you can see over a hundred pages of people trashing this game without being banned. You just did something else to get banned and you did it again (hint: ban evasion).

Edit: ah, misread there, thought your "for free" comment meant you just made a new account. That being said, read the rules about why you got your post deleted.
 
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While StudioFOW might have gotten quite as lot of money for a kickstarter or an adult game project it's still worlds away from anything you'd call triple A.
 

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This is actually a good thing imho, the more it can captures mainstream attention the more it'd also attracts actual professional game developers & publishers to think that porn games has very high demands but low supply and give making porn games a try.

The problems i keep encountering with all the good games i watched here is either they're abandoned, in a feature creep hell, just scam, or not handled by professional dev (some were even solo yolo indie dev). They oftentimes got the good ideas but none of the competence or pragmatic drive of a real game devs.
Not necessarily. There's zero push to "jump" into the adult market now based on a game brigaded deliberately by 4chan. Some middle level publishers >MIGHT< be more open to a "naughty" game, this is not any kind of sea change of any type or magnitude.

The main issue is the deliberate brigading, and the fact you're paying 30 dollars for what is ostensibly a $12 game in the best of lights, nevermind the "misperception" about "interactive" sex.

At current time this game is a 3.99 shmup and a 3.99 tile tactical and thus contains $22??? sex scenes roughly 14 seconds in length with zero interactivity except for "premium" scenes where you literally click a button. Contrast this against any content you can find online from any SFM/Blender/Maya creator much less someone pushing the technical AND content envelope like HydraFX Bewyx or Pewposterous and it doesn't present anything positive other than "hey publishers/devs, get controversial and snippy on social media, and you can oversell any r18/ao by triple the expected margins".

This also isn't SF's even fifth foray into controversy and "misunderstood expectations". Sure the average steam user has no idea whom these people are, and are likely thinking "hey mass effect lite with snogging, yay", but I'm not sure how you exactly translate that into "adult games are totally kosher and kool now", when no such animal exists.

If this had been a fantasy game instead of scifi, the sales results probably would have been far far different due to the amount of adult games coming out in this particular genre.

You're also completely skating over the fact the game sections of this game were outsourced.
 
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Joshua Tree

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Not necessarily. There's zero push to "jump" into the adult market now based on a game brigaded deliberately by 4chan. Some middle level publishers >MIGHT< be more open to a "naughty" game, this is not any kind of sea change of any type or magnitude.
Consider the world we live in atm, the money to be made in the adult market increased a lot though. People seeking new venues for their outlet....
 

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Consider the world we live in atm, the money to be made in the adult market increased a lot though. People seeking new venues for their outlet....
Maybe, but it wouldn't really be a market worth investing billions of dollars into. You have two Markets. AAA gaming which is a billion dollar industry and Porn which is a billion dollar industry. Sure there may be a market for adult games, but I doubt it would reach a point where it would reach AAA status of having a budget the likes of some of the biggest games on market. I just don't think adult games have reached a wide enough yet audience where a company would be comfortable enough to invest millions of dollars and expect that investment to triple in revenue.
 

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Maybe, but it wouldn't really be a market worth investing billions of dollars into. You have two Markets. AAA gaming which is a billion dollar industry and Porn which is a billion dollar industry. Sure there may be a market for adult games, but I doubt it would reach a point where it would reach AAA status of having a budget the likes of some of the biggest games on market. I just don't think adult games have reached a wide enough yet audience where a company would be comfortable enough to invest millions of dollars and expect that investment to triple in revenue.
Triple A games isn't really a huge part of the gaming market other than income/profit. Mid level and indy games make up the bulk of actual number of games. No, we won't see adult games with the budge of the likes of GTA series, Assassins creed and so forth, but that we could see double digit million budget adult games is not that far fetched.

The thing that hold back.. how to put it? More proper game studios is the stigma it carries to make such games. Where as the guys behind Subverse doesn't have anything like that holding them back. The interesting thing that might be worth looking at is how much Subverse end up make of profit. Because end of the day there is those that want to back you with money as long as there is profit to be made.

People cry about like Subverse raised SO MUCH MONEY.... But if you account for a dev team at their current size work a couple years, that is not really that much money in the grand scale of things.
 

C'thun

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Actually it transform them into internal unreal format.
I'm not a native english-speaker so bare with me. Doesn't it import the FBX model first and then transform it? I mean you are probably right that it transforms it but how does it contradict my sentence?
 

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Cough..mobile gaming...cough
Mobile gaming is for one purpose. Put a straw into your wallet and milk you... I don't really see commercial adult games make it big on the mobile platform anytime soon. Also if you look at gaming as whole. Games on mobile fall under a own genre. You don't really have them compete with games you find more typical for pc. Like on steam, epic etc platforms..
 

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No, Triple A is a phrase the game industry started to use to reflect the money spent on development... You know like the 600 million USD budget rumored from GTA6...... That make it a Triple A. Also Triple A doesn't reflect actually quality of a game. Anthem, F76, Cyberpunk... list goes on and on and on...

Triple A experience could just as well translate to go to a fancy restaurant spend a fortune, get served several dishes of minuscule portions you end up doesn't even like the taste of. Leave hungry and drop into a local McDonalds to pick up something because you still hungry...
So we can say that Illusion games are the Triple A games of porn games.
 

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Mobile gaming is for one purpose. Put a straw into your wallet and milk you... I don't really see commercial adult games make it big on the mobile platform anytime soon. Also if you look at gaming as whole. Games on mobile fall under a own genre. You don't really have them compete with games you find more typical for pc. Like on steam, epic etc platforms..
Yes, most popular mobile games are something like "raiding on the shadow of a legend".
But there are, in any case, erotic mobile games. The fact that they are not present in appstore/googleplay is not mean that they are not exist.

IMO you should comparing game industry with film industry.
Is production of Brazzers have >9000 "money" of budget? No, its literally bald man in Super Mario outfit and half naked woman.
Does Disney comics films have >9000 "money" of budget? Yes, but...TBH well they are not that good. Or even good at all.

IMO Subwerse is rather exclusion from rules, because....I dont know why. Studio FOW isnt popular enough to pull "YO MANS, WE GONNA MAKE PORN GAME WITH ELIENS, EEEEE BABY" off just on its reputation.
 
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