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You can pull up as many terms as you want, it still doesn't change how NTR is viewed generally on this site. You've been on this site since 2017, you should know how it rolls here by now :LOL:.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's just how it has been on this site for a long time. So if someone on here asks if it's NTR or not, then most of the time you're misleading them.
The most common way I see NTR being considered on this site is basically "If love interest fucks someone or something else then it's NTR" which by term I actually disagree with, but that is how that genre is often being seen as on this site.
Personally I wouldn't actually consider this game to be text-book NTR, but I can definitely see how it would be for others on here.
So even with all the proof in the world, character dialogue, the developer's own words, all that matters is what people think in this place. Even when they're wrong. And if you dare try to correct them and tell them the right things, you're just degraded and insulted with every derogatory term one can think of.

Life on the internet, I suppose.
 
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so they havent changed the pandora system to integrate it with the story at all I guess? is there some in story scenes other than rectuitment this update?
The 360 scene with Taron happens mid-mission. But you cannot expect there to be in-story boning every other scene, that is essentially what the Pandora scenes are, the things the crew are up to inbetween the story bits.

Pandora is going to get an overhaul, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon, as uprooting a section of the game like that doesn't happen instantly. We'll just have be patient on that front.
 

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So even with all the proof in the world, character dialogue, the developer's own words, all that matters is what people think in this place. Even when they're wrong. And if you dare try to correct them and tell them the right things, you're just degraded and insulted with every derogatory term one can think of.

Life on the internet, I suppose.
Proof ? The only thing you really proved is that there's a handful of different terms and views on what NTR is or described as and that someone on reddit edited 2 pictures out of what, 8 or 10 or something, and a screenshot saying 'No, however we want the player to choose their scenes' which basically works as a double edge sword for you, cause yes it says no but also says that there could be scenes that could be seen as that, but it's the players choice if they want to see it or skip it.

Simply by you even choosing to point out that there's many terms of NTR just shows that the genre itself is quite open in the sense that it depends on the person, which simply just validates that this site itself has it's own view on the genre. I've even said multiple times on this site that it needs to split the NTR tag up and make it more specific, cause every single game that gets that tag has pages full of people arguing over it, however it is definitely a first for me to find a thread with it being such a fallout warzone double-handedly (is that even a term? :LOL:) by just 2 people.

And also, every derogatory term one can think of? I feel like you two have laid your own bedsheets in that regard, since I fail to see a single time where I made any such remarks towards you or anyone else, yet just from two posts on a thread I've visited like once before ages ago, I was called both a maggot and crazy just for not having the same opinion. :)
 

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How do I unlock the scenes from the last update that "Requires A Specific Mantic"??
 
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something seems jacked up with ground missions. if enemies are on the lowest squares on the map my team can't target them. the square goes red
 

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Proof ? The only thing you really proved is that there's a handful of different terms and views on what NTR is or described as and that someone on reddit edited 2 pictures out of what, 8 or 10 or something, and a screenshot saying 'No, however we want the player to choose their scenes' which basically works as a double edge sword for you, cause yes it says no but also says that there could be scenes that could be seen as that, but it's the players choice if they want to see it or skip it.

Simply by you even choosing to point out that there's many terms of NTR just shows that the genre itself is quite open in the sense that it depends on the person, which simply just validates that this site itself has it's own view on the genre. I've even said multiple times on this site that it needs to split the NTR tag up and make it more specific, cause every single game that gets that tag has pages full of people arguing over it, however it is definitely a first for me to find a thread with it being such a fallout warzone double-handedly (is that even a term? :LOL:) by just 2 people.

And also, every derogatory term one can think of? I feel like you two have laid your own bedsheets in that regard, since I fail to see a single time where I made any such remarks towards you or anyone else, yet just from two posts on a thread I've visited like once before ages ago, I was called both a maggot and crazy just for not having the same opinion. :)
This'll be the last time, as clearly I can't do anything else to sway your thoughts. I can't speak for the other person, but I try to be respectful and not throw names. The one time I did, I was called on it, and I acknowledged it and stopped. All I try to do here is present factual information to balance the tons of disinformation that comes from this place. Every pirate here is a potential buyer, as they're just trying the game as it progresses. It's not easy, and no one asked me to do it, nor am I being paid for it. I just feel its the better thing to do. If I could do it for every game with the debate, I would. But I can only do so much.

Should you stick around, I hope you'll eventually come to enjoy your time with the game, and if not, oh well.
 

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How do I unlock the scenes from the last update that "Requires A Specific Mantic"??
Well...unlock the mantics. They're usually tied to sidequests, requiring an amount of BIO material and planets/anomalies scanned via right clicking while traveling the galaxy, then you create them in Lily's lab when you've met the requirements.
 

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Are the devotion points just for the dialogues or do they also influence the Pandora scenes?
PP is for the Devotion dialogue, unlocking scenes in Pandora, as well as trophies you can place in the Captain's Quarters, unlocking further Gallery poses, and will eventually culminate in the devotion quest when they're added.
 

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I believe the reasons the saves aren't working is because the torrent that keeps getting reposted is for 18Gb version, which is not really subverse 4.0, but an earlier edition. Did the old saves work with the 32Gb torrent version thats been added to the first post?
 

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The 360 scene with Taron happens mid-mission. But you cannot expect there to be in-story boning every other scene, that is essentially what the Pandora scenes are, the things the crew are up to inbetween the story bits.

Pandora is going to get an overhaul, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon, as uprooting a section of the game like that doesn't happen instantly. We'll just have be patient on that front.
yea my issue was how little in story boning there was more so than the pandora system itself. its just that the system isnt a replacement for in-story stuff.. its just extra.
 

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yea my issue was how little in story boning there was more so than the pandora system itself. its just that the system isnt a replacement for in-story stuff.. its just extra.
Well they are on a team gathering journey to overthrow a galactic empire. Gotta be professional on the job...at least when there isn't a horny nikith with you in the cockpit xD at the very least its there for the important bits, initial recruitment, we've now been getting sex scenes during and as part of the mission in Ela's case. All the while the Devotion dialogue gives more insight in the ladies, letting us get to know em properly before their personal quests :)
 
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yea my issue was how little in story boning there was more so than the pandora system itself. its just that the system isnt a replacement for in-story stuff.. its just extra.
Subverse is basically the same as the "complete puzzles to unlock h-cg kind of game", which is utterly disappointing.

Well they are on a team gathering journey to overthrow a galactic empire. Gotta be professional on the job...at least when there isn't a horny nikith with you in the cockpit xD at the very least its there for the important bits, initial recruitment, we've now been getting sex scenes during and as part of the mission in Ela's case. All the while the Devotion dialogue gives more insight in the ladies, letting us get to know em properly before their personal quests :)
They could've integrated sex into the story, like most Japanese h-games out there. Heck, even something as simple as hole-dweller can integrate sex into its "story". Subverse would've been better as a series of animated shorts or movies instead of this crappy game we have now.
 
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