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That's looking good. I like the new bikini.
Perhaps you could give her the hand on hips pose, there's something about it that makes her 'look' more milf. Like, she's more self-confident or is it just me?
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I might give her a slightly different pose for each outfit. I haven't really thought about that yet. I might post a poll for input about those later, once I get the project actually underway. When I post more images I'll make sure to use a similar pose in one of them.
 

jfallwaters

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I'm pretty sure none of us is going too close to realism when it comes to stories about a succubus who travels back and forth between fantasy worlds.
Haha, we will have to work it from from say the delusions of psychiatric inmate, drug addled mind or something :)

Nah, just that there is, for example, a difference between high fantasy and low fantasy, more realistic is just making more low fantasy and even with low fantasy there are different degrees and/or selective applications of realism. I was just reponding to the expressed desire to make it realistic which was brought up a couple of times across the many pages.

It is meerely feedback that the visual queues suggest she is kind of heavy. No biggy. I am sure there are those who would prefer to you to go the opposite way and pile it on :p

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* No biggy* -- ok saw it only after I posted. Pun was definately not intended. :p
 
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Haha, we will have to work it from from say the delusions of psychiatric inmate, drug addled mind or something :)

Nah, just that there is, for example, a difference between high fantasy and low fantasy, more realistic is just making more low fantasy and even with low fantasy there are different degrees and/or selective applications of realism. I was just reponding to the expressed desire to make it realistic which was brought up a couple of times across the many pages.

It is meerely feedback that the visual queues suggest she is kind of heavy. No biggy. I am sure there are those who would prefer to you to go the opposite way and pile it on :p

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* No biggy* -- ok saw it only after I posted. Pun was definately not intended. :p
I'm not sure how any of it will be taken in the end.
The fantasy world (or world of Ahn) on the other side of the portal felt more like a crumby haunted house park than it did a world. Everything was connected by elevator in the dungeon, which meant that elevator ran sideways, up, and down. It reminded me of the first Kingdom Hearts game. In KH you'd go to most of the worlds to see a small chunk of what looked like a Disney film, but then you went to Wonderland and the place looked like a terrible 3-4 room dark ride without a ride vehicle. The dungeon here is just like that Wonderland.
My plans for that side of it is to flesh out that world with a full map, more akin to a standard RPG Fantasy world.
The game will have a similar feel to what already exists, but with more thought put into how you get from point A to point B during the journey.
[R]Nest left a few stopping points where it felt like it would get updated down the line, but that never happened before Succulence 2 started getting toyed with. If you go back and replay every individual scenario from the original most of them don't fit together well. I'll cite a couple examples of the dead ends he left behind that could've been used to advance the plot and/or exposure/sexual stats.
1: After standing in for the gym teacher Serena changes in the locker room. A boy sees Serena getting naked. Serena notices and... nothing. It sets up for a next step, but never takes that next step. You just get that exact same cutscene repeated.
2: After doing some things with the swim club Serena gets the idea to sneak into the boys' changing room to try and catch the panty thief. After this part of the scenario plays out and you try to sneak in again Serena will say she doesn't need to do that now, that's for a future update. Yes, it literally drops the word UPDATE.

I probably still don't understand the realism and/or low and high fantasy stuff, but I hope that helped.

I brought up adding a Karate club before and it felt like somebody got mad about it.
Anything I add to the game's world is there for a reason. The added clubs will add more ero scenarios and also give a way to boost stats for combat in Ahn. Karate will raise attack, basketball will raise defense, track will raise agility, and so on. I wanted to give people who don't like grinding for levels a way to have an easier time with battle. And in terms of narrative, it did not make any sense to have cheerleaders at a school with no sport team.

The next time I update on anything I'll bring some more sample artwork.
 

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Honestly i skipped the fantasy world lol but yeah it felt like most clubs needed more. The cosplay club was severely underused for one. They never actually give her cosplays to wear lol
Also the science club just ends in a game over which is weird
 
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Honestly i skipped the fantasy world lol but yeah it felt like most clubs needed more. The cosplay club was severely underused for one. They never actually give her cosplays to wear lol
Also the science club just ends in a game over which is weird
The science club does have an ending other than the game over, but it's tricky and the game gives you no guidance.
The cosplay club is another concern of mine. I do have plans for that. they'll do a convention trip as part of that.
As for the fantasy world, I want to make it so you'll actually want to go there. Each world will advance the other in some way. Like I said about the combat stats, I also plan to earn the powers/attributes more fluidly. Turning in lust points for action abilities is fine, but I figure the passive abilities should at least have a cutscene to introduce them.
 

alltimelow

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i do agree about swim club and that basketball one, as for me the hobo scene is kinda half assed also and i mean the one behind the school (the tent) like it was just there and what? nothing, at first i was hoping there would be a slum area nearby where Serena got extra exposure scene (the constructed building in nearby neighborhood just beside that two shady guys) i think there should be a scene where serena might be gangbanged there or taken to slum by those hobos, but instead what we got is only cum on skin.

And let's be real here, there are TONS of clothes to change which is suuuuper nice (i love that feature no debate) but only a few is considered "usable" most of the times, that black / white tops with short is rarely used except for bar scene after that? it's no use and most underwear are useless actually like checkered bra set and stripped underwear which is considered as useless unless anyone can point out what's the purpose of having those.

Overall that's what's on my mind for a while, and i kinda relieved i got a chance to say it.

Anyway, cheers mate and good luck on your project MugiwaraPrince
 

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MugiwaraPrince saw your post about making new succulence game with newer honey select 2, im sorry but i still kinda don't like the design of the character, the old original serana just kinda look better. your design make the character look like a western woman.

umm im not an expert in making character but i have some character card imo u can edit it as base, only my suggestion tho, i dont know if people will like it better, its a character i made for my own game that never been made lol (T_T) cause,i dont have time to make game, its kinda combination with lot of free card in community and edited lil bit

and since u are flexible i think u can try it, and take consideration to it.
(sorry if i offend u or something, english is not my main languange, i tried my best to describe this as polite as i can in my own way T_T)

i cant eddit my card anymore since i dont have pc anymore
heres my card
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with serana short hair, i guess this sakura can be edited to become serana?
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i think this character looks like serana but milf version?
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oh this one isnt my card, i just like it and uploaded heRe lol :V
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i also have this, not mine but maybe u can use as succubus from the game

welp, thats all my card, actually i have hundreds of card, but cant use it anymore since i dont have pc T_T,

once again i hope i dont offend u, im really sorry if i did, i really just want give suggestion
 
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If he's unpublished his Patreon page right after claiming to release an actual update the day he unpublished the page then this thread should get the abandoned tag. The dude dropped that butchered redistributed release which only included content from the first release when the abandoned tag had FINALLY got put on here.
Succulence 2 needs to be marked as abandoned and Patreon should be notified.
Hey, MugiwaraPrince, I've been following this game from the first release and I 100% agree that the Abandoned Tag or a note from the Moderators needs to be on this thread.

That said, I think as far as Patreon goes, the less they hear complaints about any adult developer the better. I think even a perhaps justified reporting for something like this the worse for the community as a whole.
 

slmy_knght

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i do agree about swim club and that basketball one, as for me the hobo scene is kinda half assed also and i mean the one behind the school (the tent) like it was just there and what? nothing, at first i was hoping there would be a slum area nearby where Serena got extra exposure scene (the constructed building in nearby neighborhood just beside that two shady guys) i think there should be a scene where serena might be gangbanged there or taken to slum by those hobos, but instead what we got is only cum on skin.

And let's be real here, there are TONS of clothes to change which is suuuuper nice (i love that feature no debate) but only a few is considered "usable" most of the times, that black / white tops with short is rarely used except for bar scene after that? it's no use and most underwear are useless actually like checkered bra set and stripped underwear which is considered as useless unless anyone can point out what's the purpose of having those.

Overall that's what's on my mind for a while, and i kinda relieved i got a chance to say it.

Anyway, cheers mate and good luck on your project MugiwaraPrince
@MugiwaraPrince Just a suggestion regarding the thing about 'useless' clothing, maybe you could try making outfits into their own separate pieces (shirt/pants) and/or implementing Succulence 2's clothing mixing/tweaking system?

I feel like if they won't be useful mechanically then they might as well be useful aesthetically for customisation. This way we can combo certain articles of clothing with each other in an aesthetically interesting way, and adding the ability to tweak certain clothing (Jacket open/closed, shirt on/off) would also add to that. Also suffice to say, adding more clothes would also help with that.

I'm probably biased, but to me these kinda things add a lot of depth and enjoyment to these types of games. It's so refreshing to play a game that lets you make silly outfits with different pieces of clothing that otherwise don't usually go together, or 'interesting' outfits by changing the way the MC wears certain articles of clothing, then seeing how its reflected on the standing picture or how npcs/the MC themself reacts to it. Don't see much of that these days. Usually its just 'change to an entirely different outfit' and there's no customisation whatsoever.
 

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i do agree about swim club and that basketball one, as for me the hobo scene is kinda half assed also and i mean the one behind the school (the tent) like it was just there and what? nothing, at first i was hoping there would be a slum area nearby where Serena got extra exposure scene (the constructed building in nearby neighborhood just beside that two shady guys) i think there should be a scene where serena might be gangbanged there or taken to slum by those hobos, but instead what we got is only cum on skin.
Yeah I would love better hobo stuff. It really needed to be improved
 
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MugiwaraPrince saw your post about making new succulence game with newer honey select 2, im sorry but i still kinda don't like the design of the character, the old original serana just kinda look better. your design make the character look like a western woman.
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once again i hope i dont offend u, im really sorry if i did, i really just want give suggestion
I took no offense to anything and I appreciate the suggestions, but I'm sticking with my current model. She's actually supposed to look western, with her name being Anderson and all. That's a very western name.

@MugiwaraPrince Just a suggestion regarding the thing about 'useless' clothing, maybe you could try making outfits into their own separate pieces (shirt/pants) and/or implementing Succulence 2's clothing mixing/tweaking system?

I feel like if they won't be useful mechanically then they might as well be useful aesthetically for customisation. This way we can combo certain articles of clothing with each other in an aesthetically interesting way, and adding the ability to tweak certain clothing (Jacket open/closed, shirt on/off) would also add to that. Also suffice to say, adding more clothes would also help with that.

I'm probably biased, but to me these kinda things add a lot of depth and enjoyment to these types of games. It's so refreshing to play a game that lets you make silly outfits with different pieces of clothing that otherwise don't usually go together, or 'interesting' outfits by changing the way the MC wears certain articles of clothing, then seeing how its reflected on the standing picture or how npcs/the MC themself reacts to it. Don't see much of that these days. Usually its just 'change to an entirely different outfit' and there's no customisation whatsoever.
I like the idea and I may do that down the road. For now I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible. I do plan to build on it later, but for now I'm just shooting for the standard that the original set up.
To give you an example for one thing I'd love to shoot for, in Kamakaze Ouka 2 there's a ton of panties the principal reacts to. I'm not planning that many, but I would like to at least get twice as many reactions from the kids that peek up her skirt.

Now for a couple shots I made. I am currently re-scripting out the scenarios in a big notebook (including all the ones already in the original game) and sketching out storyboards. It's a long process, but I want to have all my cutscenes planned out before I ever try to code them or anything. I hope you all enjoy these. They're only concepts right now.
HS2_2024-08-20-19-09-18-921.png Oh the things we'll write on that board...

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I don't think I'd sleep on that train. It could be dangerous.
 

madyo

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I took no offense to anything and I appreciate the suggestions, but I'm sticking with my current model. She's actually supposed to look western, with her name being Anderson and all. That's a very western name.


I like the idea and I may do that down the road. For now I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible. I do plan to build on it later, but for now I'm just shooting for the standard that the original set up.
To give you an example for one thing I'd love to shoot for, in Kamakaze Ouka 2 there's a ton of panties the principal reacts to. I'm not planning that many, but I would like to at least get twice as many reactions from the kids that peek up her skirt.

Now for a couple shots I made. I am currently re-scripting out the scenarios in a big notebook (including all the ones already in the original game) and sketching out storyboards. It's a long process, but I want to have all my cutscenes planned out before I ever try to code them or anything. I hope you all enjoy these. They're only concepts right now.
View attachment 3951535 Oh the things we'll write on that board...

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I don't think I'd sleep on that train. It could be dangerous.
now that u mention it, her is using western name sry forgot about that,
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is it just me or the face shape kinda look like this? my suggestion is kinda making the face shape more feminim, just like the original serana
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also the skin of serana i think its a lil bit paler white, what i see from ur version of serana shes kinda white and brownish lil bit? not white and pale? (sry i cant describe it using my english, but i hope u get the gist)
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and lastly the hand is lil too big i think? or is it just the clothe?

thats all i can give i think? hope someone more expert making character give more detailed suggestion
 

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now that u mention it, her is using western name sry forgot about that,
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is it just me or the face shape kinda look like this? my suggestion is kinda making the face shape more feminim, just like the original serana
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also the skin of serana i think its a lil bit paler white, what i see from ur version of serana shes kinda white and brownish lil bit? not white and pale? (sry i cant describe it using my english, but i hope u get the gist)
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and lastly the hand is lil too big i think? or is it just the clothe?

thats all i can give i think? hope someone more expert making character give more detailed suggestion
I think that face suits her body; she looks like a chubbier girl compared to the original who appeared taller. Yes, her skin is darker compared to the other one, who has a fairer and rosier complexion. 1724269789261.png In this photo, her face looks sharper; I guess it depends on the camera angles and lighting. Almost all the photos use warm lighting.
I hope everything is understood well; I don't speak English.
 

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MugiwaraPrince do you plan on creating a patreon? Even if is not for this remake but for other games? Also I loved the model you created, I think you're very talented, keep going dude! wish the best of lucks for you and your projects!!!
 
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MugiwaraPrince do you plan on creating a patreon? Even if is not for this remake but for other games? Also I loved the model you created, I think you're very talented, keep going dude! wish the best of lucks for you and your projects!!!
Have been thinking about a Patreon for other projects and my Youtube channel, but I'd never do one for this. This will be a learning experience and I hope to create a version of this that will be loved by a mass audience. The only profit I want from my remake of Succulence is the smiles it might provide.
If I do a Patreon it would most likely have gameplay videos of adult or modded games I play and maybe live recordings of things I do at various conventions.
Aside from that I do plan to do some update videos, sharing some of the added scenario ideas and playing around with the models. That won't be part of a Patreon though.
 

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It will be.
For the time being I'm working my way very carefully through the original, making notes and writing new scenarios in a spiral notebook. I'm practicing with my redone model for when I do the character graphics for the game. When I get to compiling everything the remake will be at least 3 times the size of the original with repaired plot holes, extended courses for many ero-scenarios, and a more fleshed out world. There'll be a post-game questline that could have lead better into the sequel as well.
If the remake flows out well then we might even fix/create a sequel, the one Succulence 2 could have been.
I like your idea of making remake. The game is probably not license then. I would love the see the results because as you mentioned there are many things that could have happen in the first game, for example the abandon building that is just there, many are fan of hypnosis so more of science club, pet play and so on. Succulence was the first X rate RPGM I played and it makes me want to play more of sort and create one myself but yeah digital drawing is hard while I can make decent anime style ai images Xd. Anyway appreciate your effort and idea. Looking forward to see the outcome.
 

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I like your idea of making remake. The game is probably not license then. I would love the see the results because as you mentioned there are many things that could have happen in the first game, for example the abandon building that is just there, many are fan of hypnosis so more of science club, pet play and so on. Succulence was the first X rate RPGM I played and it makes me want to play more of sort and create one myself but yeah digital drawing is hard while I can make decent anime style ai images Xd. Anyway appreciate your effort and idea. Looking forward to see the outcome.
please no hypnosis if possible :(
 
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