VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer Camp [v0.1.6] [All Natural Games]

[Saint Blackmoor]

I'm starting to see a trend in games. at the beginning of this update, Lola and Irina have a conversation about the MC
with the screen black. are these placeholders or is it a way of not having to create images,
It sucks, it does not add to the story in my opinion.

All this talk about from some members here. " I'm not into voyeurism it's not my thing.
When you watch porn isn't that the same, especially the incest porn, and if it's a flashback isn't that something you have no control over. now if it's a daydream you control that.
and if you are not into voyeurism then you won't have that kind of daydream.
I'm not into it in my real life, but here as long as it's not violent, it's cool. it's just a fictional story.
If you decide not to play a game for your own personal reasons, that is OK, stating that opinion here is not helpful.

 

[punisher2099]

I'm starting to see a trend in games. at the beginning of this update, Lola and Irina have a conversation about the MC
with the screen black. are these placeholders or is it a way of not having to create images,
It sucks, it does not add to the story in my opinion.

All this talk about from some members here. " I'm not into voyeurism it's not my thing.
When you watch porn isn't that the same, especially the incest porn, and if it's a flashback isn't that something you have no control over. now if it's a daydream you control that.
and if you are not into voyeurism then you won't have that kind of daydream.
I'm not into it in my real life, but here as long as it's not violent, it's cool. it's just a fictional story.
If you decide not to play a game for your own personal reasons, that is OK, stating that opinion here is not helpful.

You're forgetting the fact that in real porn you don't control anyone but in these we make decisions for a main character. Most people expect to play through the main character's perspective.

 

[TommyTuba]

The MC is a psychology student , that's why he's there at the camp (also because the person who was meant to be there couldn't make it), all these girls have issues and it's his job to help them deal with them and to do that he has to find out what their issues are.

It even says this in the game description.

Oh, I see.

 

[HHTG]

Liked the first release but this 2nd one is just gonna make me skip the game, weird flashbacks just to have sexual content is a skip for me. And the thing with the uncle is kinda rapey so maybe some tag is missing.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Just finished playing the update, and wasn't a big fan of the flashback scenes, not really into that stuff. That being said calling it NTR is just wrong. I don't understand how the mc can get cucked before even knowing the girls.

 

[Meaning Less]

You're forgetting the fact that in real porn you don't control anyone but in these we make decisions for a main character.

You'r forgetting that most VNS don't have branching paths and the control they give you is an illusion which is why it is impossible to make everyone happy.
So in fact most vns are closer to real porn than they would like to admit, complaining wont change that.

 

[Cernunnos.]

Just finished playing the update, and wasn't a big fan of the flashback scenes, not really into that stuff. That being said calling it NTR is just wrong. I don't understand how the mc can get cucked before even knowing the girls.

Agreed. I could have done without the flashback being animated. Hearing about it is bad enough, I've no need to see it played out in a voyeuristic manner.

 

[Saint Blackmoor]

You're forgetting the fact that in real porn you don't control anyone but in these, we make decisions for the main character. Most people expect to play through the main character's perspective.

I understand the character's perspective idea, I guess some people inhabit the character more than others.
These are just my thoughts,

 

[punisher2099]

You'r forgetting that most VNS don't have branching paths and the control they give you is an illusion which is why it is impossible to make everyone happy.
So in fact most vns are closer to real porn than they would like to admit, complaining wont change that.

Yeah those are called kinetic novels. This is not tagged as a kinetic novel.

 

[epx]

Every woman has her own style, her own shape, and not one of them has an exaggerated body.

I like the game, can't wait to see it finished.

Good luck with the game and thank you.

 

[Meaning Less]

Yeah those are called kinetic novels. This is not tagged as a kinetic novel.

Sadly the only consideration for kinetic novel tag right now is having any dialogue choice regardless if they do nothing. Which is why so many western games get away without the tag.

Try replaying any of them with different choices and you will see that at best you will skip some scenes or reach a gameover, that is the equivalent of skipping scenes in a porn video, zero actual story branches.

 

[SoMPLAk_bye]

I could have done without the flashback being animated.

it's a brilliant idea, I agree with your way of thinking

 

[pgm_01]

LOL

I know their loli rules here. They have no legal weight as they are more lax than international conventions. If you're a resident of any UN country, including Tonga (.to), the US and all EU countries, the age requirement for any visual or text based adult project is the same as any other adult product, and that is the general age of adulthood - 18 years. That means the characters in any product must visually look like they're 18. Even though they're digital, non-living figures.
Also, by international domain rules, any website has to uphold the laws in both the country of ownership, the country of hosting, and the country of the end user.

PS: I have no personal opinion on the females in this game. They might be 18, I don't care. I just felt I had to make it clear that the R7 rule is fine, but legally, should be expanded to 18 years due to the above (legally binding) rules.

And again, you guys pull this out of your ass with no link.

US law applies in the US. This is a US based server. The US is not subject to any UN laws (hint there is no such thing, but it sure sounds scary, doesn't it?)
Let me quote myself from another thread:

Visual depictions include photographs, videos, digital or computer generated images indistinguishable from an actual minor, and images created, adapted, or modified, but appear to depict an identifiable, actual minor.

You must be registered to see the links

See that part in bold and underlined? Indistinguishable is the key word. Something like a deep fake would break the law, Daz CG is good, but not that good. It does not take a program or expert to discern whether the image was real or CG. The game does not break the law.

The quote comes directly from the justice department, you know, the guys who prosecute crimes, and they don't consider it a crime. Stop fearmongering and misrepresenting the law.

 

[punisher2099]

Sadly the only consideration for kinetic novel tag right now is having any dialogue choice regardless if they do nothing. Which is why so many western games get away without the tag.

Try replaying any of them with different choices and you will see that at best you will skip some scenes or reach a gameover, that is the equivalent of skipping scenes in a porn video, zero actual story branches.

Wait I just realized what you said has nothing to with my post. Real porn doesn't have main protagonist's if you look at the overview's of most of these you will see things like "you play as" or "you are" Ok then show me, the player what that main protagonist is doing.

 

[Suprserpent]

I will try to make the dick more realistic for next updates, and Mrs. Fincher will have many appearances in the story

A dev that gives a girl a big clit in their games? Sign me up!

 

[User312]

Can someone please add "urination" as part of the tags?
It is already in the "Genre" tab, but not on top of the screen with the tags...
Kinda a turn off for me..
So sadly I will probably not continue playing this game...

 

[TomUK]

Can someone please add "urination" as part of the tags?
It is already in the "Genre" tab, but not on top of the screen with the tags...
Kinda a turn off for me..
So sadly I will probably not continue playing this game...

Well you have the choice whether she just wets her pants or takes them off if pissing isn't your scene.

 

[Tiur]

My Prologue reaction: Not bad, looking forward to how it progresses.
My 0.1.2 reaction: Great expansion on the prologue, and setting up some really good harem fun, interesting girls, and good situations to put the MC into with them.
My 0.1.3 reactions: Great start with the counselors, great scene with Daniela, and then April, who already had a scene with the MC in 0.1.2 suddenly gets abused by her disgusting uncle and then gets yet another dick all over her.

By the F95 tag's definition, the April+uncle and April+Andy scenes are in fact NTR (a romantic interest is involved with others for the narrative design of causing jealousy in either the MC or the player).

Even if the April events had happened in the past, she could have been telling the MC about them, and the dramatic focus could have been on April's and the MC's expressions as reactions. Showing it was gross, unnecessary, and an instant turnoff for almost everyone who would have been interested in a harem game.

This is probably the most impressive dive from good to shit that I've ever seen from a game.

Tags to be added from 0.1.3, none of which are things the MC is doing: NTR, Rape, Incest, Groping. I wish there was a tag for Abusive Violence, too (which this was), as separate from Graphic Violence (which this wasn't), because I don't want to see that shit, and I know I'm not alone in that.

 

[Look-see]

well shit....not much i can say that hasn't already been said. the flashback scene witht the first girl was enough for me to drop the game. seems like it'll happen more so ima just leave it at that.

i have to admit i was curious about the game and now im not.

that being said as usual i do wish the dev good luck.

 

[kameohawk]

The anti NTR/Sharing/Swinging/Voyeurism is a vocal community indeed.
I feel bad for the dev, I'd just recommend that you ask the player if they want to see the flashback before it happens.

100% this. It absolutely EATS any positive vibes that might be coming from the game. The flow is kinda loose, not really taking itself too seriously then "hey kids, you wanna see abuse of all kinds? Course you do! Let's gooooo"