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TonyMurray

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I'm just saying we need more renders of this peach :unsure:
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Was it Sophie who serves as another good example of the sort of animation I wasn't fond of in this update? There was a girl who turned up at the top of the stairs as Kate was taking MC away for "The Talk", I think it was. Instead of just a static render or two showing who was there, we got a pan and zoom up the stairs to show her off. Similar animations were used a couple of times for other girls at various points as well, and I just feel that they look good in a well-rounded game, but when they're part of an update that disappoints, it makes it look like too much attention was focused in the wrong place.

Bitchers and whiners. I seriously think some people here get off more by complaining and shitting on devs than they do the actual porn games. And for notable VNs with the quality of Summer Heat, it's just a bigger target for them. A perfect example are the pages of dumb complaints about 2 fucking frames of a toaster instead of the most important thing in that scene... Kate's tits. Motherfuckers can't see the forest for the trees.

And here, the devs specifically addressed the complaints with professionalism and grace, but some people here still intend to be bitter little shits about it by insulting the devs and worse... the patrons who support this VN. So they have to continue derailing the thread with this stupid ongoing tantrum about the update.

Get over it and grow the fuck up people. It's beyond ridiculous and pathetic.
Editing because you posted as I was typing and the timing looks comical given our respective comments. Just to clarify in case it's needed though, I'm not shitting on the devs, and have posted about my support for them, especially after their recent post. I feel people are still entitled to post about the updat though, what else are they to do, only talk about the game now in terms of the whole thing, even if they've just played the most recent part? The disappointment will roll away eventually, but there's no problem in giving a bit of time for it to happen.
 

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"You want more? Come and take it, if you dare..."
The developers were criticized very harshly and as a result the monthly special is Eve in panties, the system works!.
My faith is completely recovered and version 0.7 will be the best ever!, maybe I exaggerated a little, sorry, but I want to believe that now the developers understood for the first time that because of the years of development, people expect more action with the protagonists regardless of the time of day.
 

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Editing because you posted as I was typing and the timing looks comical given our respective comments. Just to clarify in case it's needed though, I'm not shitting on the devs, and have posted about my support for them, especially after their recent post. I feel people are still entitled to post about the updat though, what else are they to do, only talk about the game now in terms of the whole thing, even if they've just played the most recent part? The disappointment will roll away eventually, but there's no problem in giving a bit of time for it to happen.
Respectful criticisms about the update is one thing. Complaining about the developers, calling devs "milkers", or insulting patrons is another.

The former is on topic and valid especially when solicited by the developers themselves. The latter is a toxic, off topic derailment and classic bully behavior. People are entitled to their opinion about the game itself but not to the point of excessive complaining about the people behind the VN or the time it takes to develop it... and it's way beyond excessive at this point.
 
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All good on paper, but in practice is something entirely different. Will they be able to follow through on said promises? Who knows.

As someone else said, the main hurting point I think was the time it took to finally release the update with how little it had. The communication wasn't as transparent so people built it up in their head that it was going to be a banger of an update when in reality it was an anime filler episode where the only lewd content was a remix of the prior update.

Branching has always been an issue with AVN. If you aren't on someones path then an update can take longer to download than play it sometimes.
I wasn't following any communication, I just checked this forum every now and then, so there was nothing to build my expectations. I expected 0.6 to be smaller than 0.5 (which was massive considering general update size) but not this small.

Speaking of branching, players who are on Kate/Eve solo path got breakfast, nap, forest walk and building exploration. I can completely understand their disappointment.

With branching you should provide something for each of the branches.

Now imagine these options:
  • If you are on Sophie's/Mia's path, you would go with them, no change here.
  • If you are on Bree's path, Kate would pair you with Bree so you two can finally have "some time alone".
  • If you are on Eve's path, Kate would pair you with Eve and you would run into the jogger again. The jogger would taunt/annoy Eve about MC being her "fake boyfriend" because "no one would ever love her". Eve, maybe desperate, maybe to hide her tears, grabs MC and starts making out with him. Disgusted (or maybe shocked), the jogger leaves (but not before taking some pictures). Eve then opens a up a bit and talks about her life. And when you are with her in the abandoned building, things might get even spicier.
  • If you are on Kate's path, she will pair up with you to"find some inspiration together". And she can even justify it: "MC, I see you are left alone. You are with me, I'm NOT letting you go on your own especially after what happened yesterday." Kate would try to be professional, but to no avail and you two would end up kissing... Only to be interrupted by Miller calling Kate to return to the lodge. Kate leaves, but promises MC they will resume later. Mike will then text/call MC to move his ass to the abandoned building.
I'm just spitballing, but this would allow MC have some alone time with each of the main girls.
 

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I wasn't following any communication, I just checked this forum every now and then, so there was nothing to build my expectations. I expected 0.6 to be smaller than 0.5 (which was massive considering general update size) but not this small.

Speaking of branching, players who are on Kate/Eve solo path got breakfast, nap, forest walk and building exploration. I can completely understand their disappointment.

With branching you should provide something for each of the branches.

Now imagine these options:
  • If you are on Sophie's/Mia's path, you would go with them, no change here.
  • If you are on Bree's path, Kate would pair you with Bree so you two can finally have "some time alone".
  • If you are on Eve's path, Kate would pair you with Eve and you would run into the jogger again. The jogger would taunt/annoy Eve about MC being her "fake boyfriend" because "no one would ever love her". Eve, maybe desperate, maybe to hide her tears, grabs MC and starts making out with him. Disgusted (or maybe shocked), the jogger leaves (but not before taking some pictures). Eve then opens a up a bit and talks about her life. And when you are with her in the abandoned building, things might get even spicier.
  • If you are on Kate's path, she will pair up with you to"find some inspiration together". And she can even justify it: "MC, I see you are left alone. You are with me, I'm NOT letting you go on your own especially after what happened yesterday." Kate would try to be professional, but to no avail and you two would end up kissing... Only to be interrupted by Miller calling Kate to return to the lodge. Kate leaves, but promises MC they will resume later. Mike will then text/call MC to move his ass to the abandoned building.
I'm just spitballing, but this would allow MC have some alone time with each of the main girls.
About your made-up scenario with Eve, it sounds naive and formulaic, but I like it. It's better than nothing.
 
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Respectful criticisms about the update is one thing. Complaining about the developers, "milker" accusations, or insulting patrons is another.

The former is on topic and valid especially when solicited by the developers themselves. The latter is a toxic, off topic derailment and classic bully behavior. People are entitled to their opinion about the game itself but not to the point of excessive complaining about development and it's beyond excessive at this point.
Definitely agree here then. The constant "milking" posts are one thing that really grinds my gears here. They are so repetitive and annoying.
 

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you are on Eve's path, Kate would pair you with Eve and you would run into the jogger again. The jogger would taunt/annoy Eve about MC being her "fake boyfriend" because "no one would ever love her". Eve, maybe desperate, maybe to hide her tears, grabs MC and starts making out with him. Disgusted (or maybe shocked), the jogger leaves (but not before taking some pictures)
Eve's psychological trauma for life and do you want them to meet again? I think there should be fight :devilish:
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QWareZ

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About your made-up scenario with Eve, it sounds naive and formulaic, but I like it. It's better than nothing.
Eve's psychological trauma for life and do you want them to meet again? I think there should be fight :devilish:
Hey, I spent like 10 minutes on that post (not 10 months), cut me some slack :D.

But seriously, you are correct, both of my scenarios are shit (that's why you never go with first draft). I just wanted to add something more descriptive for the girls that got pretty much nothing out of the chapter.
 

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I wasn't following any communication, I just checked this forum every now and then, so there was nothing to build my expectations. I expected 0.6 to be smaller than 0.5 (which was massive considering general update size) but not this small.

Speaking of branching, players who are on Kate/Eve solo path got breakfast, nap, forest walk and building exploration. I can completely understand their disappointment.

With branching you should provide something for each of the branches.

Now imagine these options:
  • If you are on Sophie's/Mia's path, you would go with them, no change here.
  • If you are on Bree's path, Kate would pair you with Bree so you two can finally have "some time alone".
  • If you are on Eve's path, Kate would pair you with Eve and you would run into the jogger again. The jogger would taunt/annoy Eve about MC being her "fake boyfriend" because "no one would ever love her". Eve, maybe desperate, maybe to hide her tears, grabs MC and starts making out with him. Disgusted (or maybe shocked), the jogger leaves (but not before taking some pictures). Eve then opens a up a bit and talks about her life. And when you are with her in the abandoned building, things might get even spicier.
  • If you are on Kate's path, she will pair up with you to"find some inspiration together". And she can even justify it: "MC, I see you are left alone. You are with me, I'm NOT letting you go on your own especially after what happened yesterday." Kate would try to be professional, but to no avail and you two would end up kissing... Only to be interrupted by Miller calling Kate to return to the lodge. Kate leaves, but promises MC they will resume later. Mike will then text/call MC to move his ass to the abandoned building.
I'm just spitballing, but this would allow MC have some alone time with each of the main girls.
And what about a player on every paths? They're not entirely exclusive yet, you can pursue multiple girls at once even though you will have to choose one to end with later on. Furthermore it would have taken more months to do it
 
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If this one is something, it is defo polished.
Perfect UI design, even the usually hated by me freeplay scenes played smoothly.

As mentioned - it suffers from the scope size, there's just tooooooooo many girls.
I believe it would shine with something like 3+2 setup. Cut away whole car lady arc, tinder and the strip club that I feel like is a part of a different game that glitched into this one somehow.

Renders are top notch, great "first stage" ones especially, you don't see that often. And I'd say reasonably mature writing, excluding dirty talk. Whenever there's dialogue during spicy scenes, it feels like I am reading those subtitles for deaf people in movies.
 

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If this one is something, it is defo polished.
Perfect UI design, even the usually hated by me freeplay scenes played smoothly.

As mentioned - it suffers from the scope size, there's just tooooooooo many girls.
I believe it would shine with something like 3+2 setup. Cut away whole car lady arc, tinder and the strip club that I feel like is a part of a different game that glitched into this one somehow.

Renders are top notch, great "first stage" ones especially, you don't see that often. And I'd say reasonably mature writing, excluding dirty talk. Whenever there's dialogue during spicy scenes, it feels like I am reading those subtitles for deaf people in movies.
hmm, i believe it would be better with something like 4+2 setup - they need to cut away all (useless) girls arcs, and to leave jzst cat, cass, tinder milf, and hot barista. beseides them helen and miller deserves their arc/s too.
 
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hmm, i believe it would be better with something like 4+2 setup - they need to cut away all (useless) girls arcs, and to leave jzst cat, cass, tinder milf, and hot barista. beseides them helen and miller deserves their arc/s too.
It's time for you to open your religion to Milf worship :)
 
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QWareZ

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And what about a player on every paths? They're not entirely exclusive yet, you can pursue multiple girls at once even though you will have to choose one to end with later on. Furthermore it would have taken more months to do it
Yes, I was aware of that issue when writing it :). The easiest way out would be to simply let the player decide (like in the case of Sophie/Mia), but I don't really like that. So maybe let the people leave at various points with the player having the option to join would be better. Another quick idea is to base it on previous interactions (spending time with girls, being nice to them and so on). This would artificially increase the playtime since to get the other scenes players would have to replay the previous day to make the correct choices. Not sure if the community would like that.

And obviously, it would require a different allocation of resources (since this would be planned way before rendering even started), maybe more time, maybe less renders somewhere else... I'm not trying to write the game for the devs, I don't even know if I like half of the stuff I came up with :confused:.
 

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I don't think artificially increase the playtime would be a benefit, especially if it necessitated many playthroughs and therefore saves to keep track of in order to pick the "right" choice. Those are always red flags to me that a game that it is more interested in wasting my time than entertaining me.
 
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