VN Ren'Py Summer Scent [v0.6.4a] [The Naughty Captain]

[Kionashi]

I actually like that the consequences that stem from those choices are not immediately apparent. Much more like real life in that regard than things always working out the best in the end if they don't have an immediate bad reaction that screams that you made a bad choice.

100% Agree, sometimes I feel is too easy to simply choose whatever option and just scroll back a little bit to correct your path if the immediate reaction is not favorable, that kinda takes away from the choice and consequence this kind of games offer since you end up choosing not what you think you would choose in that situation, but whatever has the best outcome...the game should push us to deal with the consequences of our actions by avoiding an immediate reaction and letting the consequences hit you later.

 

[KnightOwlSC]

most likely since there is a Mc and his sister they didn't just pop up. There is just haven't met her yet.

She's currently away with the father at the symposium. Guess it's just a question of if the game wraps up before they return.

 

[fortuna95]

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Dev Update #114

Post-processing is done. It took way longer than I expected. Turns out that editing a thousand images, even if you barely spend about three minutes per file on average... Well, that's 50 hours of work.

But it's done.

Tomorrow, I'll start applying corrections and testing the whole thing. There are also a few things I have yet to implement, like the achievements for that episodes and a better textbox.

I hope to start the beta test around next Wednesday.

I'm late on the bonus renders for October and I haven't posted the poll for the next round. I have to postpone all that to November as I try to focus on finishing that update.

I promise I'll make up for this. I'll have all the time I need once V0.6 part 1 will be released.

The quick sum up :

• Day 6 Part 1 will contain 10 scenes.
• Scenes 1 to 10 are written.
• Scenes 1 to 10 are posed and rendered.
• Scenes 1 to 10 are coded.
• 50 351 words, 11 249 lines of code, 1060 renders.
• I'm currently coding scene 10.

You can follow my progress with this

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The Naughty Captain

 

[h4rcules]

How to get Mia+Cassie path in this game

 

[sorco2003]

Release date has been set!
Great job Capitan... now more anxious than ever.

 

[Psymind]

In VN's with very dark themes as the basis for their story, this type of ending might even be expected. But given the themes in this VN it's one of the ugliest endings I've encountered in VN's with this type of storyline. Compared to where things seem to be headed it's very very dark, in part because it seems to come out of nowhere.

As mentioned above it's easier to avoid now than in earlier versions of the game.

Damn, now i'm curious haha. Can someone just spoil me? What is this Bad ending about?

 

[Kionashi]

not gonna lie...Im a little bit anxious, it's been a while since I last played this game and I feel the need to replay it from the beginning to be ready for the latest release, but Im afraid I will get one of those furtives bad endings If I attempt such thing...

 

[sorco2003]

Damn, now i'm curious haha. Can someone just spoil me? What is this Bad ending about?

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[forthewins]

Damn, now i'm curious haha. Can someone just spoil me? What is this Bad ending about?

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One thing worth noting though, I thought the scene that proceeded this bad ending was extremely well written and worth reading, even if you skip the actual bad end itself if you don't want to see that. The writing in that section really elevated my opinion on the quality of the writing in this game and made me start taking it more seriously. (Then the ending itself lowered my opinion a bit again, haha, because it was too over-the-top for my tastes. But it was still a net positive effect.)

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[Mcdewbie]

A Light shines brighter in the dark.
And if there was no dark, there will be no light. The story would be flat, inconsequential, boring. I want the player to feel something. I want him to cry. In pain, in hate, in love, in happiness.
We can agree that it's a bit presumptuous.

I knew that the dual love path would be kind of a priority for most players. So that was the ideal spot for a bad ending. It's like making a statement. You need attention if you want to be heard.
I think it worked great. It made clear for everyone that Summer Scent isn't just another lamda game in the best way possible.

That's basically what's called subverting expectations and it's a modern pox on good thoughtful writing when it's used inappropriately as is the case ever more frequently in modern fiction. Continuity of character imo is more important that pulling the rug out from the reader and shouting "gotcha". That isn't what entertains me nor is somber stories of depression, guilt, and betrayal. Rule one of good writing. Know your audience.

 

[e250vhf22]

That's basically what's called subverting expectations and it's a modern pox on good thoughtful writing when it's used inappropriately as is the case ever more frequently in modern fiction. Continuity of character imo is more important that pulling the rug out from the reader and shouting "gotcha". That isn't what entertains me nor is somber stories of depression, guilt, and betrayal. Rule one of good writing. Know your audience.

Yeah man, how dare they spring us up with that bad ending. It was a total surprise. If only there was warning in the intro that mentioned what type of game this is.







"know your audience" Pshh You are the type of dude who would go to a french restaurant and claim customer is king when they don't serve you pineapple pizza and raise a ruckus.

 

[Ottoeight]

Yeah man, how dare they spring us up with that bad ending. It was a total surprise. If only there was warning in the intro that mentioned what type of game this is.


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"know your audience" Pshh You are the type of dude who would go to a french restaurant and claim customer is king when they don't serve you pineapple pizza and raise a ruckus.

People - myself included - didn't complain because the Author made this very very bad ending. People complained because NOT-getting it was way more difficult than passing through the eye of a needle for the camel, you know.

This is why I have to agree with Mcdewbie and disagree with you.

 

[patachoucs]

People - myself included - didn't complain because the Author made this very very bad ending. People complained because NOT-getting it was way more difficult than passing through the eye of a needle for the camel, you know.

This is why I have to agree with him and disagree with you.

Because it's so easy to get in a relationship with two ladies IRL, am I right ?
This game is made to reflect that it's not just "want sum fuccs ? Y/N" and depending on how you act you'll get a different reaction.
It would be SO MUCH easier for the Cap to just say "fuck it I'll have two options for the girls, you're with them or you're not".
The fact he doesn't and still work hard to multiply variations of even some similar routes should be a pointer to most about what experience he's trying to offer to us.

We're so used to having all the girls in games we became insentivised to the fact that it supposed to be the exception, not the rule. This game is based on this. I don't see why it should be such a bad thing it's "hard to get". And yeah, while harsh, scene 7 is a very good shock and reminder that your actions have consequences. The fact that it's unusual shouldn't be blamed on the Cap imo, but on the countless mindless games where they don't.

 

[Ottoeight]

Because it's so easy to get in a relationship with two ladies IRL, am I right ?
This game is made to reflect that it's not just "want sum fuccs ? Y/N" and depending on how you act you'll get a different reaction.
It would be SO MUCH easier for the Cap to just say "fuck it I'll have two options for the girls, you're with them or you're not".
The fact he doesn't and still work hard to multiply variations of even some similar routes should be a pointer to most about what experience he's trying to offer to us.

We're so used to having all the girls in games we became insentivised to the fact that it supposed to be the exception, not the rule. This game is based on this. I don't see why it should be such a bad thing it's "hard to get". And yeah, while harsh, scene 7 is a very good shock and reminder that your actions have consequences. The fact that it's unusual shouldn't be blamed on the Cap imo, but on the countless mindless games where they don't.

You can't be serious, as The Dude would have said.

What has RL to do with this story?

What's more, this is an interactive fiction game: make players obtaining a really really really bad ending only because they missed a "right answer" JUST ONCE isn't a smart idea.

Should I remind you that these VNs are supposed to entertain people? should I remind you that players/readers are supposed to have fun while playing/reading them?

As I already pointed out, the very bad ending disappointed people because it was almost impossible to avoid it.

 

[emigrate2230]

impossible to avoid it only for biig douchebags in real life. i tried 5 fkin times to get the bad ending. i had to look at cheats to get it. i feel nothing but disgust for people who think one bad decision cannot change everything. and this is what makes this game so damn good. you have to be careful of your actions.

 

[Mcdewbie]

Yeah man, how dare they spring us up with that bad ending. It was a total surprise. If only there was warning in the intro that mentioned what type of game this is.


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"know your audience" Pshh You are the type of dude who would go to a french restaurant and claim customer is king when they don't serve you pineapple pizza and raise a ruckus.

The bad ending in this game wasn't earned yet. It was like a pilot TV show killing off the main characters the premiere episode. Ham fisted and I think the writer is capable of far better. And as for your illogical strawman argument about a french restaurant that makes no sense. People go into a french restaurant to eat french food. People go to a porn game site to be aroused, titillated and entertained. Feeling of guilt, remorse and betrayal isn't going to keep backers and supporters lining up to donate to future projects.

 

[e250vhf22]

People complained because NOT-getting it was way more difficult than passing through the eye of a needle for the camel, you know.

I did two playthroughs one for Eve and one for Cassie and didn't end up with bad ending on those two runs. Then I used your walkthrough to see some of the other paths. Sure throuple path is hard to get and it's easier on that path to hit bad ending. As far as I am concerned it's really hard to get bad ending in other routes. (unless I am somewhat of a savant that picks best options each time).

I for one am ok with throuple path being hard to get. It makes sense for this type of game and it's a welcome change after playing instant harem games. But I can see how others taste might differ.

And as for your illogical strawman argument about a french restaurant that makes no sense. People go into a french restaurant to eat french food. People go to a porn game site to be aroused, titillated and entertained. Feeling of guilt, remorse and betrayal isn't going to keep backers and supporters lining up to donate to future projects.

What's illogical with the argument? You are still talking like you are the representative of everyone. Underhandedly implying that this game is unacceptable and it will ruin the career of the dev unless it gets changed to something to suit your tastes. You are a Karen customer.

 

[sorco2003]

I did two playthroughs one for Eve and one for Cassie and didn't end up with bad ending on those two runs. Then I used your walkthrough to see some of the other paths. Sure throuple path is hard to get and it's easier on that path to hit bad ending. As far as I am concerned it's really hard to get bad ending in other routes. (unless I am somewhat of a savant that picks best options each time).

I for one am ok with throuple path being hard to get. It makes sense for this type of game and it's a welcome change after playing instant harem games. But I can see how others taste might differ.

Here you are misunderstanding something, and just to clarify, only the throuple path has a bad ending. So far the individual paths do not have any endings.

 

[e250vhf22]

Here you are misunderstanding something, and just to clarify, only the throuple path has a bad ending. So far the individual paths do not have any endings.

That was my bad. I was trying to be sarcastic while conveying the idea that "the" bad ending everyone complaining about is almost impossible to get in other routes by accident. It sounded smarter in my mind. Thank you for clarification.

 

[patachoucs]

You can't be serious, as The Dude would have said.

What has RL to do with this story?

What's more, this is an interactive fiction game: make players obtaining a really really really bad ending only because they missed a "right answer" JUST ONCE isn't a smart idea.

Should I remind you that these VNs are supposed to entertain people? should I remind you that players/readers are supposed to have fun while playing/reading them?

As I already pointed out, the very bad ending disappointed people because it was almost impossible to avoid it.

As others have replied to you by now, it's one outcome for one route among 15.
No, it's not impossible to avoid it.

It was more likely to happen to people playing it to get every girls like they're pokemon.
My first time trying the game I didn't even get any of them, because I basically got friendzoned.
So... Yeah. I'm sorry but I don't agree with your take.