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It was actually Zara when she met them in the lobby and found Nami sitting on the bike. As for her sister, every pretentious girl wears a tiara and the name Vanessa :)
Well yeah I'm actually an idiot, thanks for clearing that up. To be fair she pretty much doesn't exist to me as her demeanor is extremely offputting and I don't even think she's very attractive (for Ocean standards that is, it would be a different story in real life). :HideThePain:
 
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Well yeah I'm actually an idiot, thanks for clearing that up. To be fair she pretty much doesn't exist to me as her demeanor is extremely offputting and I don't even think she's very attractive (for Ocean standards that is, it would be a different story in real life). :HideThePain:
Just finished replaying WIAB. She totally gives me Leia vibes, everything is the same: demeanor, attitude, snake bracelets. Well, except maybe that she's not as blessed in the boobs department as Leia.
 

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Doesn't Bella make a joke about MC being 1/2 Asian after seeing Nojiko and thats why he has a small dick and MC clarifys that she adopted him? And I could swear it happens again later on too.
Why are you red seems like an inside joke because everyone assumes they are blood related so they've probably been asked that ad nauseum.
While genetics rule how we look and all that, there is some leeway to Mendel´s laws if the traits in question are goverened by multiple gene sequences. There can be "jumps" of a generation until popping up again and sometimes even expressions "against" the average genetic prediction and predispositions.
A famous example would be Hissa von Hatzfeldt, the Granddaughter of former Japanese PM. Her face was clearly more asian than european, but she had natural blond hair. And there are many more examples like her. While most births follow the genetic predispositions, you will always have some rare or even numerous (on a smaller scale) expressions who were not predicted as such.

ust finished replaying WIAB. She totally gives me Leia vibes, everything is the same: demeanor, attitude, snake bracelets. Well, except maybe that she's not as blessed in the boobs department as Leia.
Vanessa is a good candidate for a Willi-Leia offspring, but somehow I think she is too obvious. While we surely will have offspring of these two in SG (they are major characters in WIAB and their relationship was clear from early on), I am curious who it will be. I predict one or two of the cousins Ayua talks about are in reality her halfsibling(s).
 

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You do though? Doesn't Bella make a joke about MC being 1/2 Asian after seeing Nojiko and thats why he has a small dick and MC clarifys that she adopted him? And I could swear it happens again later on too.

Why are you red seems like an inside joke because everyone assumes they are blood related so they've probably been asked that ad nauseum.

If you're trying to get around Patreon rules he is already using an incest patch so if he wanted them blood related it could've been clearer.

Either way though they are still siblings and it would be hella taboo. I do like the story better as them being adopted siblings though so that's what I'm going to choose to believe until its definitively proven otherwise.
Huh? Are you alright? Buddy I hate to burst your bubble but Nami and MC are blood related. It's not an inside joke. It's wondering why she was born a redhead when their parents and brother aren't. We all know the ginger gene can be carried and skip generations. But that's why they ask that.

Ocean wants them blood related. They are blood related. The "unclear" part is literally due to getting around Patreon.

You can choose to believe whatever you want. Play without patch if you like it better but it won't change their relationship. I would prefer if they were not related at all as well. But they are.

The Bella joke is literally just a joke. She literally saw his dick and still jokes about his size. No one asks Nojiko why the kids are white because it's obvious they aren't her birth children.

Literally just read the text. The fact that Nami's feelings are such a big issue that they avoid is because they are blood related. It's because their relationship would be frowned upon and used against them.
 

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While genetics rule how we look and all that, there is some leeway to Mendel´s laws if the traits in question are goverened by multiple gene sequences. There can be "jumps" of a generation until popping up again and sometimes even expressions "against" the average genetic prediction and predispositions.
A famous example would be Hissa von Hatzfeldt, the Granddaughter of former Japanese PM. Her face was clearly more asian than european, but she had natural blond hair. And there are many more examples like her. While most births follow the genetic predispositions, you will always have some rare or even numerous (on a smaller scale) expressions who were not predicted as such.
As we people who studied latin would say: "mater semper certa est, pater numquam".

Meaning: you'd better ask for a DNA test.

Regarding blonde chicks: you might want to check if they're blonde "down there" too. :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:
 

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As we people who studied latin would say: "mater semper certa est, pater numquam".

Meaning: you'd better ask for a DNA test.

Regarding blonde chicks: you might want to check if they're blonde "down there" too. :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:
Dunno about him, but I want to check them there all the time, regardless of genetics or fancy latin!
 
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[...] No one asks Nojiko why the kids are white because it's obvious they aren't her birth children.[...]
Well, none of the people they met assumed they were roommates/friends/siblings either, but most people think of them as a couple at first. This happens so often that Nami even jokes about it in chapter 4.5 when they met Aziz and his mom at the pizzeria. Implies that it's obvious to strangers that they are not related. Just saying, don't hate me for that, Ocean is to blame for all this ambiguity :)
 
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It's wondering why she was born a redhead when their parents and brother aren't. We all know the ginger gene can be carried and skip generations. But that's why they ask that.
Yeah, this pussyfooting around the issue is actually a huge weakness in the story as it currently stands, IMHO.

Summer and Zara ask the redhead question, but neither has ever met Nika/Nami's real parents, only Nojiko. Nika and Nami have a conversation discussing separate mothers.

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I know a patch can alter the dialogue in these scenes... I just don't understand why Ocean bothers continuing this facade, considering he plans a Steam release. It's something that could destroy all his good work by risking the game being pulled with little warning from Patreon and/or Steam.

The only rationale I can see in continuing the facade, based on everything that's been presented up to v.4.5, is where Nika and Nami share the same father but different mothers - then there needs to be a Patreon/Steam-acceptable resolution to such a revelation (before intercourse). Whatever happens, it ultimately needs to make sense in the non-patched game version (especially if the game explodes on Steam).
 
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I know a patch can alter the dialogue in these scenes... I just don't understand why Ocean bothers continuing this facade, considering he plans a Steam release. It's something that could destroy all his good work by risking the game being pulled with little warning from Patreon and/or Steam.
For all it´s big flaws, Steam is not the main problem here, they allow more leeway with content. For instance, in the second episode of "9-Nine", even the kiddy-friendly version, you have to be a dummy to not get that one girl you are pursueing is your Sis.
Steam are oxen when it comes to age-verification, which is the reason e.g. we Germans have a lot of hassle getting some stuff, but unlike Patreon allow more sexual stuff be mentioned in games from the get go and they give a flying fuck if you later use 18+ patches. Patreon today on the other hand tries very hard to outpuritan the puritans.
 

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For all it´s big flaws, Steam is not the main problem here, they allow more leeway with content. For instance, in the second episode of "9-Nine", even the kiddy-friendly version, you have to be a dummy to not get that one girl you are pursueing is your Sis.
Steam are oxen when it comes to age-verification, which is the reason e.g. we Germans have a lot of hassle getting some stuff, but unlike Patreon allow more sexual stuff be mentioned in games from the get go and they give a flying fuck if you later use 18+ patches. Patreon today on the other hand tries very hard to outpuritan the puritans.
While I agree about Steam, the point I am making is the situation can change with little warning (like it did with Patreon, like it did with music licensing). I simply ask why any Dev would risk their investment in time and money to, in this case, moral forces outside of their control.
 
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For all it´s big flaws, Steam is not the main problem here, they allow more leeway with content. For instance, in the second episode of "9-Nine", even the kiddy-friendly version, you have to be a dummy to not get that one girl you are pursueing is your Sis.
Steam are oxen when it comes to age-verification, which is the reason e.g. we Germans have a lot of hassle getting some stuff, but unlike Patreon allow more sexual stuff be mentioned in games from the get go and they give a flying fuck if you later use 18+ patches. Patreon today on the other hand tries very hard to outpuritan the puritans.
The whole Season 1 might be fully "decensored" (siblings being siblings, high school setting) without any problems and get a 16+ rate as well.

The whole Patreon shit is damn well shit, since neither MC nor Nami are having sex with anyone in season 1.
 
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