John972

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Their hate for each other doesn't make much sense to me either to be honest but since these two are one of the very few dual LI paths I'm not convinced they'll hate each other forever. I can fix them, I'm sure.
It does make sense:

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I believe what happens to the Mila/Bella relationship going forward could depend on MC/player choices. The dual LI path for these two could get violently dark. Bella has a definite crazy, vindictive, and violent streak - will the MC encourage that? As Bella falls in love with the MC, I see her becoming insanely possessive and jealous of any other LIs interactions with the MC...

(I do not rule out Bella being the cause of Sasha's misfortune. At the very least, I think Sasha is trying to guide/protect Robin on a path to right a historical wrong and avoid Bella's wrath. Robin to MC: "She is a friend. Or was a friend. I just-..." MC thinking: "I wonder what really destroyed their friendship. It's almost like Robin feels guilty and just really wants to make up with her.".
 
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The thing about her hair color does suggest blood related. Although if not siblings, MC knew her parents and they could be non redheads. Not supporting this, simply giving a possible explanation for an unlikely scenario
The "redhead gene" is a recessive gene (there are in fact multiple genes involved, all recessive). It means that two non-redhead parents who both happen to have the redhead gene, can have a redhead child (25% chance), as well as non-redhead children.

Their non-redhead children also have a 66.6% chance to carry the same recessive redhead gene.
 
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The "redhead gene" is a recessive gene (there are in fact multiple genes involved, all recessive). It means that two non-redhead parents who both happen to have the redhead gene, can have a redhead child (25% chance), as well as non-redhead children.

Their non-redhead children also have a 66.6% chance to carry the same recessive redhead gene.
Oooh! Not many people know that!
 

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It's the same with green eyes. Most recessive. Followed by Blue and Brown being the dominant eye colour. My sister is a red head, despite both my parents being brunettes and I am a brunette too. Though patches of my hair does turn copper in summer. Annoying as it is.
 

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I've known that the redhead gene is recessive since I learned about genetics in the high school now over 30 years ago, I did read about the multiple genes from the Wiki just now. I know, I cheated :p
We all Love Chicks with a Burning Roof & Cellar (Redheads) ... Thats all what is importend .... Nobody cares bout School and Science Stuff. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Just saying that the redhead gene thing is pretty well known, at least in the parts of the world where redheads are not uncommon. Didn't try to brag.
 
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It's the same with green eyes. Most recessive. Followed by Blue and Brown being the dominant eye colour. My sister is a red head, despite both my parents being brunettes and I am a brunette too. Though patches of my hair does turn copper in summer. Annoying as it is.
Why annoying? Many animals adapt their fur colour depending on season!
 
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Orgitas

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Well, not everyone is a native english speaker.
Eh, not a good enough excuse in this day and age. Especially with the tech, and help, available. Even the ones who translate into English often do a poor job and they are native speakers.
 

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I believe what happens to the Mila/Bella relationship going forward could depend on MC/player choices. The dual LI path for these two could get violently dark. Bella has a definite crazy, vindictive, and violent streak - will the MC encourage that? As Bella falls in love with the MC, I see her becoming insanely possessive and jealous of any other LIs interactions with the MC...
I see Bella getting jealous - think on her reaction to the MC if he calls Karen (when he goes to get his id) attractive, but the MC is going to have to make a choice if he is going with either Mila or Bella. They are not a compatible throuple, given their history at a minimum.

If the MC tries to play games with the feelings of both Mila and Bella, then I think there will be relationship ending choices that we will reach but it is far too early to predict what they are and how violent things will get before that happens.

Ocean has taken Summers Gone in a lighter (versus Darker) direction and I don't see over the top violence between the two women. The MC is trying to get control of his temper and rejoin society versus pursuing a darker, more psychotic path. The old SG may have allowed this, but I don't see Ocean building up and extending story arcs for psychotic female relationships any more than he now does this for the MC.

I think the reaction will be more along the lines of 'the MC is just not worth it - I am done' versus even the equivalent of the MC fight scene in the classroom where he gets ambushed.
 

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Eh, not a good enough excuse in this day and age. Especially with the tech, and help, available. Even the ones who translate into English often do a poor job and they are native speakers.
Then do an AVN yourself. Then you can show the world how to do it right. I hate this arrogance of people who think the whole world should speak perfect English. 17.1% of people on Earth speak Mandarin, 7.3% speak Hindi, 5.8% speak Spanish and only then comes English at 5.2%. May I ask how good is your Chinese and Hindi? I mean, with all the tech and the help available. It would be a poor excuse these days and age if you can't get it perfect.
 

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Then do an AVN yourself. Then you can show the world how to do it right. I hate this arrogance of people who think the whole world should speak perfect English. 17.1% of people on Earth speak Mandarin, 7.3% speak Hindi, 5.8% speak Spanish and only then comes English at 5.2%. May I ask how good is your Chinese and Hindi? I mean, with all the tech and the help available. It would be a poor excuse these days and age if you can't get it perfect.
Well, firstly, I am working on an AVN. Have roughly 220 renders done so far. Secondly, I am fluent in German, and French, also know Italian (Though not fluent). If I had an inclination to translate into Chinese, or Hindi, I would seek people out who do speak that language. I wouldn't, for the life of me, make a game with the base language of one I am not utterly familiar with - Especially if I plan to make money from it. Just setting yourself up for failure. Ignorance is rarely a good excuse ... Especially when a person's money is involved.
 

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I see Bella getting jealous - think on her reaction to the MC if he calls Karen (when he goes to get his id) attractive, but the MC is going to have to make a choice if he is going with either Mila or Bella. They are not a compatible throuple, given their history at a minimum.

If the MC tries to play games with the feelings of both Mila and Bella, then I think there will be relationship ending choices that we will reach but it is far too early to predict what they are and how violent things will get before that happens.

Ocean has taken Summers Gone in a lighter (versus Darker) direction and I don't see over the top violence between the two women. The MC is trying to get control of his temper and rejoin society versus pursuing a darker, more psychotic path. The old SG may have allowed this, but I don't see Ocean building up and extending story arcs for psychotic female relationships any more than he now does this for the MC.

I think the reaction will be more along the lines of 'the MC is just not worth it - I am done' versus even the equivalent of the MC fight scene in the classroom where he gets ambushed.
Yeah, Ocean has implicitly stated he is ditching the more darker paths he originally planned, at least regarding the MC (he said: "Don't compare the "Dark route" I had originally planned to most of the "Dark routes" games have on this site. There is the "Oh! You were mean to me" dark kind of stuff. And there's what I was planning. The FSK 18 kind of darkness. Psychological corruption/Submission, violence, intimidation, etc.")

Ocean's also stated that while the MC will never go full psycho, he'll never be a Mr Nice Guy either. On the Bella/Mila path, at least for a casual friendship with Mila on the Bella Path, Ocean's stated, "For example, a rumor about you and Girl X is going around while being together with Bella and she keeps seeing you with her. That can turn out problematic or at least raise some uncomfortable questions."

What would happen if the MC cheats on Bella with Mila is anyone's guess, because that obviously crosses another line altogether, and only Ocean has an answer to that.

The warning signs are there already. I think of all the characters introduced so far, Bella is the one likely to have the worst reaction to the MC cheating on her. As you say, however, Ocean may force a nipping in the bud to prevent any Bella/Mila rivalry getting too dark (the MC has already warned Bella that Mila is off limits in terms of being a patsy for the Holgerson robbery).

PS - on the MC/Bella/Mila throuple... it may be nothing, but there's one deliberate difference in a dialogue between Mila and Nami about Bella while on the Bella path, depending if the MC has chosen to go on a date with Mila or not:

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Then do an AVN yourself. Then you can show the world how to do it right. I hate this arrogance of people who think the whole world should speak perfect English. 17.1% of people on Earth speak Mandarin, 7.3% speak Hindi, 5.8% speak Spanish and only then comes English at 5.2%. May I ask how good is your Chinese and Hindi? I mean, with all the tech and the help available. It would be a poor excuse these days and age if you can't get it perfect.
You make a very good point about languages. I'm American and a native English speaker - but that is American English - versus the British or Australian versions of English. There are enough differences in which 'English' you speak to create nuances that are lost when viewed by those from a different country/culture.

I think Ocean does a good job with Summers Gone - the 'English' version - but I have no sense of what any Brit's or Aussie's think - so if any of those reading this thread hail from beyond the colonies - what are your thoughts?

As George Bernard Shaw (Irish writer) said of the U.S. and England - ' England and America are two countries divided by a common language.'

Cheers! :coffee:
 

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I think Ocean does a good job with Summers Gone - the 'English' version - but I have no sense of what any Brit's or Aussie's think - so if any of those reading this thread hail from beyond the colonies - what are your thoughts?
The English in SG is very easy to understand, even for those down under. I can't say I've noticed any or too may colloquialisms from one particular culture in SG (other than the use of the American school system). However, we're all so imbued with American culture from media (TV, movies) that maybe it's second nature to us non-Americans... : )

Besides, sometimes the best English speakers and easiest to understand (in my experience) are continental Europeans who speak and write it well as a second language, since they don't learn the dialects or colloquialisms prevalent in Britain, America, or the Commonwealth.
 
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