VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Ali ibn Hassan]

That's basic knowledge from school.

Not many people know that! Or remember!

 

[John972]

I see Bella getting jealous - think on her reaction to the MC if he calls Karen (when he goes to get his id) attractive, but the MC is going to have to make a choice if he is going with either Mila or Bella. They are not a compatible throuple, given their history at a minimum.

If the MC tries to play games with the feelings of both Mila and Bella, then I think there will be relationship ending choices that we will reach but it is far too early to predict what they are and how violent things will get before that happens.

Ocean has taken Summers Gone in a lighter (versus Darker) direction and I don't see over the top violence between the two women. The MC is trying to get control of his temper and rejoin society versus pursuing a darker, more psychotic path. The old SG may have allowed this, but I don't see Ocean building up and extending story arcs for psychotic female relationships any more than he now does this for the MC.

I think the reaction will be more along the lines of 'the MC is just not worth it - I am done' versus even the equivalent of the MC fight scene in the classroom where he gets ambushed.

Yeah, Ocean has implicitly stated he is ditching the more darker paths he originally planned, at least regarding the MC (he said: "Don't compare the "Dark route" I had originally planned to most of the "Dark routes" games have on this site. There is the "Oh! You were mean to me" dark kind of stuff. And there's what I was planning. The FSK 18 kind of darkness. Psychological corruption/Submission, violence, intimidation, etc.")

Ocean's also stated that while the MC will never go full psycho, he'll never be a Mr Nice Guy either. On the Bella/Mila path, at least for a casual friendship with Mila on the Bella Path, Ocean's stated, "For example, a rumor about you and Girl X is going around while being together with Bella and she keeps seeing you with her. That can turn out problematic or at least raise some uncomfortable questions."

What would happen if the MC cheats on Bella with Mila is anyone's guess, because that obviously crosses another line altogether, and only Ocean has an answer to that.

The warning signs are there already. I think of all the characters introduced so far, Bella is the one likely to have the worst reaction to the MC cheating on her. As you say, however, Ocean may force a nipping in the bud to prevent any Bella/Mila rivalry getting too dark (the MC has already warned Bella that Mila is off limits in terms of being a patsy for the Holgerson robbery).

PS - on the MC/Bella/Mila throuple... it may be nothing, but there's one deliberate difference in a dialogue between Mila and Nami about Bella while on the Bella path, depending if the MC has chosen to go on a date with Mila or not:

Spoiler: Mila dialogue about Bella

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[PaxHadrian17]

Then do an AVN yourself. Then you can show the world how to do it right. I hate this arrogance of people who think the whole world should speak perfect English. 17.1% of people on Earth speak Mandarin, 7.3% speak Hindi, 5.8% speak Spanish and only then comes English at 5.2%. May I ask how good is your Chinese and Hindi? I mean, with all the tech and the help available. It would be a poor excuse these days and age if you can't get it perfect.

You make a very good point about languages. I'm American and a native English speaker - but that is American English - versus the British or Australian versions of English. There are enough differences in which 'English' you speak to create nuances that are lost when viewed by those from a different country/culture.

I think Ocean does a good job with Summers Gone - the 'English' version - but I have no sense of what any Brit's or Aussie's think - so if any of those reading this thread hail from beyond the colonies - what are your thoughts?

As George Bernard Shaw (Irish writer) said of the U.S. and England - ' England and America are two countries divided by a common language.'

Cheers!

 

[codex35]

I think we need the devlog to calm people down here

 

[John972]

I think Ocean does a good job with Summers Gone - the 'English' version - but I have no sense of what any Brit's or Aussie's think - so if any of those reading this thread hail from beyond the colonies - what are your thoughts?

The English in SG is very easy to understand, even for those down under. I can't say I've noticed any or too may colloquialisms from one particular culture in SG (other than the use of the American school system). However, we're all so imbued with American culture from media (TV, movies) that maybe it's second nature to us non-Americans... : )

Besides, sometimes the best English speakers and easiest to understand (in my experience) are continental Europeans who speak and write it well as a second language, since they don't learn the dialects or colloquialisms prevalent in Britain, America, or the Commonwealth.

 

[Trojaner]

I think we need the devlog to calm people down here

Pfff what are ya talking bout Buddy ... We need something yeah, but an UPDATE ASAP. Devlogs are meh.

 

[Uriel ☁]

 

[Ayhsel]

The "redhead gene" is a recessive gene (there are in fact multiple genes involved, all recessive). It means that two non-redhead parents who both happen to have the redhead gene, can have a redhead child (25% chance), as well as non-redhead children.

Their non-redhead children also have a 66.6% chance to carry the same recessive redhead gene.

All true.


Just a reminder that using real life genetics logic in a game where the ugliest girl is a real world class beauty might not be appropriate. Genes in this town are almost magical!

 

[JamesM81]

All true.


Just a reminder that using real life genetics logic in a game where the ugliest girl is a real world class beauty might not be appropriate. Genes in this town are almost magical!

Right?!?! Ocean just seems hellbent on ruining my immersion. Can't he just throw a couple of 4's and 5's here and there, maybe a random blurry dude in the background? Not even TV shows aimed at teens get anywhere near the level of talent of the gene pool in this AVN.

 

[Cabin Fever]

All true.


Just a reminder that using real life genetics logic in a game where the ugliest girl is a real world class beauty might not be appropriate. Genes in this town are almost magical!

To be fair, this seems to be the case for many AVN's not just this one.

 

[Orgitas]

Well if the emo hair styling having moody boy can get with the hottest women. There s hope for us normies out there yet... If we live vicariously through AVNs.

 

[yossa999]

Right?!?! Ocean just seems hellbent on ruining my immersion. Can't he just throw a couple of 4's and 5's here and there, maybe a random blurry dude in the background? Not even TV shows aimed at teens get anywhere near the level of talent of the gene pool in this AVN.

Poor thing Nancy alone will have to take the rap for all these beauties. And even she's above the average.

 

[LostGhost]

Should there be some special choices whenever mc choosing a Li path?
Like following choices to shape MC,
Kiss her back
Reject her
Think of Summer before kiss
Reject her think of summer

 

[DirtyMario]

You make a very good point about languages. I'm American and a native English speaker - but that is American English - versus the British or Australian versions of English. There are enough differences in which 'English' you speak to create nuances that are lost when viewed by those from a different country/culture.

As a native german speaker trying to speak english, I can tell you that we almost never look at correct grammatical form and just go with what sounds (or reads) right. In many cases it works out, sometimes it doesn't. As long as the gist of what I'm trying to say gets through I feel like it does the job. Typos are a different animal altogether. Those should be caught by proofreaders. But again this is an AVN, not a dissertation. As long as the bewbs are rendered well I'm happy.

Just a reminder that using real life genetics logic in a game where the ugliest girl is a real world class beauty might not be appropriate. Genes in this town are almost magical!

There is no shortage of out of shape and / or ugly model templates if Ocean wanted to use some. But as with most AVNs, the goal is to portrait an idealized version of reality. Otherwise we could just go outside. Just thinking about it makes me shiver in disgust.

 

[Orgitas]

As a native german speaker trying to speak english, I can tell you that we almost never look at correct grammatical form and just go with what sounds (or reads) right. In many cases it works out, sometimes it doesn't. As long as the gist of what I'm trying to say gets through I feel like it does the job. Typos are a different animal altogether. Those should be caught by proofreaders. But again this is an AVN, not a dissertation. As long as the bewbs are rendered well I'm happy.


There is no shortage of out of shape and / or ugly model templates if Ocean wanted to use some. But as with most AVNs, the goal is to portrait an idealized version of reality. Otherwise we could just go outside. Just thinking about it makes me shiver in disgust.

How dare you even hint about going outside. Blasphemy.

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

All of you that complain about the supply of suitable LIs!
Get your own cheap here:

 

[John972]

Right?!?! Ocean just seems hellbent on ruining my immersion. Can't he just throw a couple of 4's and 5's here and there, maybe a random blurry dude in the background? Not even TV shows aimed at teens get anywhere near the level of talent of the gene pool in this AVN.

Ocean does have plausible deniability, though. It's implied somewhere early in the game that ZPR is a hard college to get accepted into. Perhaps it's eligibility criteria is based on beauty and not scholastic ability (Damien got in 'cause he bears passing resemblance to a distinctive character on a famous TV show). /s

 

[John972]

There will definitely be a sympathy angle for Melanie, we already have the Holgersons as antagonists to avenge, there will definitely be something with Melanie that will make make players think twice about revenge. Either she'll be vulnerable and seem genuinely remorseful for how she was when she was younger, before knowing MC knows her victims. Or there will be some sort of link to Summer that will make MC think twice.

With the two main 'revenge' plots currently going on:

1. Bella/MC against the Holgersons, which has already led to vandalism and robbery at the Holgerson household. MC wants to find a patsy for the robbery to clear Mila's name.

2. Zara/MC against Melanie Ceril (so far, a Keyser Söze-like character in the game ), who attends the elite Jackson & Schwartz College with Mario Holgerson and Vanessa, The revenge scheme isn't finalized yet.

Pure speculation, but perhaps the MC can " kill two birds with one stone" here:

Spoiler: Darstardly Plan

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[loqex]

All of you that complain about the supply of suitable LIs!
Get your own cheap here: View attachment 2510041

yah know.. 5 pounds for a week, that better not be bait and switch!!

 

[John972]

For those debating the MC (Nika)/Cheeto parentage, recall this little gem of a conversation between the MC and Zara in v.4.5:

Spoiler: Conversation...

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There's so many ways to interpret that (do Nika/Nami really have different mothers or is the knowledge of the same mother hidden from them? If the latter, then why? What purpose does that serve?). What's also interesting, there is no mention of the father(s)...

DISCLAIMER: I have no view one way or the other yet, 'cause I don't really care outside of the story. I am presenting this purely in relation to the SG storyline. Any real world considerations such as Patreon rules are simply irrelevant. Ocean chose this dialogue in his latest chapter.