Kassandara

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They're Backkkk...

Ocean is a scammer...

Ocean is a milker...


Here we go again...

The uneducated attacks of those who are angry that they are not getting their free stuff in the quantity/quality/speed/number of animations/level of resolution that they are entitled to astounds me.

Ocean is a Prolific creator, making Summers Gone and Where It All Began side-by-side:

His updates have typically 1,000+ renders + quality animations, all created in high resolution (no '480p' here...); licensed music; a great story and Many potential LI's.

He invests a huge amount of his cash flow from supporters in: better hardware, music licensing, and yes - paying both other team members And hiring freelancers where he feels he can leverage their talents to create something he can incorporate into a VN so he can focus on other things - like story rendering...

Ocean gave kudos to the freelancer who created the outdoor stadium environment where the MC, Zara and the rest of the basketball team hopefuls did their first night practice.

Ocean hired a freelancer to make the phone app but, in this case, this person blew it and Ocean had to take it back.

So - Ocean hired someone who did not live up to the hype/do their job... because that never happens in RL, right?

There is a consequence for development speed when someone hired to do a job does not get the job done:

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Direct quote from the Summers Gone Dev Log May 17, 2023

As mentioned above, the work on the phone has begun. Good boi Messe has created a lot of fantastic-looking UIs for me. The coding part is definitely the hardest, as I'm still doing it myself. But I'm getting there. Here's the current main menu.

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Progress is pretty fast, even though the phone takes quite a few hours away from setting up scenes atm.

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I think Ocean is not just a great creator, he is a smart businessman!

Yes, creating a high-quality AVN like Summers Gone means approaching this Not as a hobby, but as a business.

The decision to rework SG (primarily CH 1 & 2, with continuity updates in other chapters as needed) has a Very specific purpose:

It is not milking ...

It is the preparation for a Steam release.

Steam is Major opportunity to introduce the world beyond F95 to Summers Gone - and Ocean gets 1 chance to make a first impression.

Steam success will create not just a huge resource bump, but also provide the following (at a minimum):

Exposure to a huge world-wide audience

Notice and potential teaming opportunities with high quality freelancers who want to be part of Summers Gone, Season 2 and beyond

Notice by indie music performers who can see the potential of teaming with a creator like Ocean - in-AVN credit and the chance to grow their own audience by piggybacking on the success of Summers Gone.

And - I'm sure I'm missing other advantages since the above are just my 'off the cuff' thoughts as I write this.

So:

Milking = NO

Scamming = NO

Creating an awesome story that I am happy to support = YES

Cheers! :coffee:
inb4 dick rider, "Hi Ocean" etc. etc. :KEK:
 

Deleted member 5988643

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It's funny how good todo nothings people are constantly complaining about scaming and such, do you pay the creators? Yes, don't like them, don't pay, it's as simple as that. You don't pay them, what are you complaining about, we get it for free here.

Not fast enough? Yeh I can relate, it's difficult to get everything right, if you do it to fast, you get a new group complaining about it doesn't work, to many bugs. (Good example is Amnesty and that mod, which constantly threw exceptions, it's fixed now, it seems).

The userinterface sucks, yep another one, just copy and paste because the dev wants to do story, fine. Or try to come up with something new, unknown to us, so it sucks, etc, very difficult to get that good. Why the fuck do we get dark bars over the import part of the pictures, just another one...

Making something great is difficult and takes time, a lot of time. And lets just say it, if you work full time on something and you don't get paid at least 10.000 euro's/dollars a month, I would hardly call it being overpaid.
 

JamesM81

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God bless the so called "trolls". Y'all deserve medals for the work you put in. I know it's not easy. Or rewarding. But by God it is honest work.

You fellas come to a thread and revive it with a single post, getting a rise out of all the developer fellatio enthusiasts and allowing us common folk to be entertained by each comment posted. You are the unsung heroes of F95! I salute you all!
 

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It would be interesting to know how many developers/designers etc, 2.9m is of course a lot, but then you need to remove 10% for patreon, and how many people are paid with it. Unlikely it is only 1 person. Of course with bad story line it's possible.

Ocean:


3-10k a month, which is nice, at least summer's gone has a good story line.
 
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Vigeous

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It would be interesting to know how many developers/designers etc, 2.9m is of course a lot, but then you need to remove 10% for patreon, and how many people are paid with it. Unlikely it is only 1 person. Of course with bad story line it's possible.

Ocean:


3-10k a month, which is nice, at least summer's gone has a good story line.
If your talking about pinkcake he is a solo developer and does his job alone
 

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I recommend you to play it, if you liked SG you'll probably like BDIK
I loved SG not only because of beautiful models/rendering, but he also makes the characters very lovable. When I read a few of the reviews, they all complained about missing character development. Exactly what I didn't want, just fuck around, from one girl to the next without even knowing her name or backstory.

Another nice game example is What A Legend. Every update, they select another girl and make you really love her by the end of the update. That's what I look for in such games.

But I of course might try it...
 

Vigeous

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I loved SG not only because of beautiful models/rendering, but he also makes the characters very lovable. When I read a few of the reviews, they all complained about missing character development. Exactly what I didn't want, just fuck around, from one girl to the next without even knowing her name or backstory.

Another nice game example is What A Legend. Every update, they select another girl and make you really love her by the end of the update. That's what I look for in such games.

But I of course might try it...
There are Main Girls and side Girls, the game has a lot of sex but at the start you only have sex with some side chicks that are presented through prostitution but you grow attached to some of them and about the main girls you can't have sex with them until you get to know them better. I'd say through all the games I played SG and BDIK have the best female characters.
 
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