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It's same girl from pic above Nojiko one, she's in the back. At least I think it's her :unsure:
I think so too! Here are some thoughts who this woman could be if she is from WIAB.
She has a mega-Dutt hairstyle and there is still some rest of blueish-white colour tone in her hair. Her erpression seems to be earnest, stern and has some necklace or band around her neck.
Leia is a possibility, but her dutt (when she wears one) is a lot smaller than the one of this person, also she does not colour her hair and the unknown girl does NOT wear Leia´s trademark snake necklace. So Leia is not very probable going by the few things we can say, esp. since she is the most likely person to have given Nami her special earring.

Miru is also a possibility, she can put on a very earnest posture like Leia does. In addition the band thing the unknown wears has some similarity to the band necklace Miru wears sometimes. But like Leia, Miru does neither colour her hair in WIAB nor is she a Dutt style person. And more, while Miru can be ruthless, in WIAB she is much more a mediator in the early chapters. doubtful, that she would become such an enemy of Nojiko, unless there is something we do not know currently.

Kati could also be an option since there is some similarity to her "I am stern now" posture in WIAB and Kati colours her hair whiteish. Additionally she takes feuds very earnest and far. Still I do not see the connection with what we know currently.

Zoey is also in the race of possibly being the person Nojiko has problems with. Zoey is a Holgerson and she colours her hair whiteish-blue in WIAB, just like the unknown here. But Zoey is a free spirit in WIAB, new and old, being on friendly terms with nearly anyone. This would be a major change.

Willi´s cousin Kat is also an option because from the few despriptions we have of Nick´s former wife, she could be the one, esp. Zara´s competitive streak is very similar to Kat´s own im WIAB. But I think it more likely that Kat is the Mom of Nadia.

I saw Scarlett mentioned in some posts as a possibility and yes it is possible. But unlikely since Scarlett would be quite a bit older in SG than the unknown person seems to be despite the white hair.
 

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I think so too! Here are some thoughts who this woman could be if she is from WIAB.
She has a mega-Dutt hairstyle and there is still some rest of blueish-white colour tone in her hair. Her erpression seems to be earnest, stern and has some necklace or band around her neck.
Leia is a possibility, but her dutt (when she wears one) is a lot smaller than the one of this person, also she does not colour her hair and the unknown girl does NOT wear Leia´s trademark snake necklace. So Leia is not very probable going by the few things we can say, esp. since she is the most likely person to have given Nami her special earring.

Miru is also a possibility, she can put on a very earnest posture like Leia does. In addition the band thing the unknown wears has some similarity to the band necklace Miru wears sometimes. But like Leia, Miru does neither colour her hair in WIAB nor is she a Dutt style person. And more, while Miru can be ruthless, in WIAB she is much more a mediator in the early chapters. doubtful, that she would become such an enemy of Nojiko, unless there is something we do not know currently.

Kati could also be an option since there is some similarity to her "I am stern now" posture in WIAB and Kati colours her hair whiteish. Additionally she takes feuds very earnest and far. Still I do not see the connection with what we know currently.

Zoey is also in the race of possibly being the person Nojiko has problems with. Zoey is a Holgerson and she colours her hair whiteish-blue in WIAB, just like the unknown here. But Zoey is a free spirit in WIAB, new and old, being on friendly terms with nearly anyone. This would be a major change.

Willi´s cousin Kat is also an option because from the few despriptions we have of Nick´s former wife, she could be the one, esp. Zara´s competitive streak is very similar to Kat´s own im WIAB. But I think it more likely that Kat is the Mom of Nadia.

I saw Scarlett mentioned in some posts as a possibility and yes it is possible. But unlikely since Scarlett would be quite a bit older in SG than the unknown person seems to be despite the white hair.
Damn, You mentioned almost everyone from WIAB . XD
But I think she would be someone we don't know .
I don't think WIAB'S castes would have too much presence in SG, they will play a mejor role for sure but their presence in SG won't be much.
 
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There are still some issues that prevent me from really doing some work in Blender... For example, the clothing is a pain in the ass. It keeps clipping and deforming. (Which is why Sasha's nude.)
I need to understand the issue itself first.
As soon as the clothing issue is fixed, I should have most of it working for the short stories.
Hi Ocean! This might be a stupid question, but as someone having just newbie knowledge of the various render programs (and maybe I have forgotten if you wrote about it in a former Dev post), why are you going towards a DAZ+Blender solution instead of a DAZ+Unreal 5? Even for my novice experimentation with the various 3D programs, Blender feels rather overcomplicated and going against some standards. Unreal has it´s own pitfalls without doubt once you get deeper in, but it does not feel as fiddly and finicky as Blender does to me. And their licence is definitely ok-ish to the naked eye.
 

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Hi Ocean! This might be a stupid question, but as someone having just newbie knowledge of the various render programs (and maybe I have forgotten if you wrote about it in a former Dev post), why are you going towards a DAZ+Blender solution instead of a DAZ+Unreal 5? Even for my novice experimentation with the various 3D programs, Blender feels rather overcomplicated and going against some standards. Unreal has it´s own pitfalls without doubt once you get deeper in, but it does not feel as fiddly and finicky as Blender does to me. And their licence is definitely ok-ish to the naked eye.
Unreal is a lot tougher to learn. Artists can get away easily with DAZ, casus that's what it's targeted towards, Blender has learning curve but you still can learn it, but Unreal is something else. It is mostly used by people who has atleast basic understanding of programming and some other stuff. Unreal is really tough.
 

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Unreal is a lot tougher to learn. Artists can get away easily with DAZ, casus that's what it's targeted towards, Blender has learning curve but you still can learn it, but Unreal is something else. It is mostly used by people who has atleast basic understanding of programming and some other stuff. Unreal is really tough.
Thanks for your input! :) As said, I am a newbie with the various 3D programs, I do not have much time for them. But when I tested a bit of DAZ, Blender and Unreal, DAZ seemed to me a very good choice for static pics and while Blender and Unreal looked equally intimidating when you go beyond some basic static pics, Unreal felt less brushed against the stroke to me.
This naturally does not say much about the general difficulty, but that was my feel.
 
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Damn, You mentioned almost everyone from WIAB . XD
But I think she would be someone we don't know .
I don't think WIAB'S castes would have too much presence in SG, they will play a mejor role for sure but their presence in SG won't be much.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if Nojiko turns out to be Miru's sister that had appeared but wasn't given a name in the old WIAB.
 

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Wouldn't surprise me at all if Nojiko turns out to be Miru's sister that had appeared but wasn't given a name in the old WIAB.
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This theory has a lot of merit and I too have it saved in the backpart of the brain. It could really be. But there is one major problem with this theory. Why is the Cyrus family not really poor, but struggling with money, so that Bella can make her cynic jokes about having and not having money?
At the beginning of WIAB the Zane family in general is well-off, Leia already loaded. By the time of SG the Zanes are one of the big families in town, sponsoring the College (together with the Reveras and Petrowas) with serious money. Kati is a renowned designer and drives a luxury car. So we can assume Leia did really give her the needed money for her starter collection (this is one of the topics in WIAB).
Not to forget that Ayua´s all-day car is a Dodge Viper. Hardly the standard car for a young college student, but more for a rich Daddy´s girl. By the way, Ayua thematically comes clearly after Wiilli and Leia, who in WIAB have a snake theme going, e.g. Leia´s jewelry and accessories and Willi´s pet snake "Gefritzel".
But let´s get back. The Zanes very clearly have money, if Nojiko is Miru´s sister, why does she not have more money? Kati and Leia have a strong dislike, at times truly hated, for each other, unless that got mended in later parts of WIAB. Still Kati got the money she needed. It is very doubtful the Miru from WIAB´s start would let her sister hang out to dry, if she could help.
 

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This theory has a lot of merit and I too have it saved in the backpart of the brain. It could really be. But there is one major problem with this theory. Why is the Cyrus family not really poor, but struggling with money, so that Bella can make her cynic jokes about having and not having money?
At the beginning of WIAB the Zane family in general is well-off, Leia already loaded. By the time of SG the Zanes are one of the big families in town, sponsoring the College (together with the Reveras and Petrowas) with serious money. Kati is a renowned designer and drives a luxury car. So we can assume Leia did really give her the needed money for her starter collection (this is one of the topics in WIAB).
Not to forget that Ayua´s all-day car is a Dodge Viper. Hardly the standard car for a young college student, but more for a rich Daddy´s girl. By the way, Ayua thematically comes clearly after Wiilli and Leia, who in WIAB have a snake theme going, e.g. Leia´s jewelry and accessories and Willi´s pet snake "Gefritzel".
But let´s get back. The Zanes very clearly have money, if Nojiko is Miru´s sister, why does she not have more money? Kati and Leia have a strong dislike, at times truly hated, for each other, unless that got mended in later parts of WIAB. Still Kati got the money she needed. It is very doubtful the Miru from WIAB´s start would let her sister hang out to dry, if she could help.
Well, just because someone Nojiko knows someone that has money, it doesn't mean she has access to that money too.

What if Leia didn't like Miru simply because Miru was with William and therefore wouldn't want anything to do with Miru, let alone allowing Miru's sister Nojiko enjoy some of the Zane money?

What if Leia was the reason Miru and William broke up? And therefore Nojiko, being on Miru's side and holding a grudge, didn't want anything to do with Leia, let alone using her money?

What if Leia and Nojiko simply didn't get along due to a personality conflict and therefore are estranged?

All 3 are highly plausible and common scenarios in real life. Why can't it happen in the game?
 
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This theory has a lot of merit and I too have it saved in the backpart of the brain. It could really be. But there is one major problem with this theory. Why is the Cyrus family not really poor, but struggling with money, so that Bella can make her cynic jokes about having and not having money?
At the beginning of WIAB the Zane family in general is well-off, Leia already loaded. By the time of SG the Zanes are one of the big families in town, sponsoring the College (together with the Reveras and Petrowas) with serious money. Kati is a renowned designer and drives a luxury car. So we can assume Leia did really give her the needed money for her starter collection (this is one of the topics in WIAB).
Not to forget that Ayua´s all-day car is a Dodge Viper. Hardly the standard car for a young college student, but more for a rich Daddy´s girl. By the way, Ayua thematically comes clearly after Wiilli and Leia, who in WIAB have a snake theme going, e.g. Leia´s jewelry and accessories and Willi´s pet snake "Gefritzel".
But let´s get back. The Zanes very clearly have money, if Nojiko is Miru´s sister, why does she not have more money? Kati and Leia have a strong dislike, at times truly hated, for each other, unless that got mended in later parts of WIAB. Still Kati got the money she needed. It is very doubtful the Miru from WIAB´s start would let her sister hang out to dry, if she could help.
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Thanks for your input! :) As said, I am a newbie with the various 3D programs, I do not have much time for them. But when I tested a bit of DAZ, Blender and Unreal, DAZ seemed to me a very good choice for static pics and while Blender and Unreal looked equally intimidating when you go beyond some basic static pics, Unreal felt less brushed against the stroke to me.
This naturally does not say much about the general difficulty, but that was my feel.
Yeah Unreal is really tough. But I do believe if anyone masters Unreal the development is gonna be really fast. But for Unreal, you need to spend a lot of time in the initially before you can even release static images. But once you set everything up, the pace with which you can generate images and videos is much faster, but for Artists, I'd still say use DAZ, unreal has lot of issues and bugs too.
 
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I always found it strange that Nojiko had so little money. I mean she is a doctor and they earn good money all over the world, maybe not rich but definitely not poor either. It would have been a lot more realistic if Ocean had made her a nurse, they work just as hard but get much less money. :cry:
 

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Well, just because someone Nojiko knows has money, it doesn't mean she has access to that money too.

What if Leia didn't like Miru simply because Miru was with William and therefore wouldn't want anything to do with Miru, let alone allowing Miru's sister Nojiko enjoy some of the Zane money?

What if Leia was the reason Miru and William broke up? And therefore Nojiko, being on Miru's side and holding a grudge, didn't want anything to do with Leia, let alone using her money?

What if Leia and Nojiko simply didn't get along due to a personality conflict and therefore are estranged?

All 3 are highly plausible and common scenarios in real life. Why can't it happen in the game?
Yes, these are 3 plausible scenarios, but going by what we know from WIAB and SG, there are these counter arguments:

What if 1:At the start of WIAB Leia is certainly not happy that Miru is with "her" Willi, but she knows where the bread is buttered and recognising chances. Leia herself makes a proposal which leads to Willi and Miru´s staying in Wollust for good, as we can estimate from what we currently know from SG. And makes Miru Leia´s martial arts teacher. so this waht if is sunk. :) ;)

What if 2:That is very unlikely, since Ayua mentions her parents have a gym/martial arts studio. That was an idea already hatched in the earliest chapters of WIAB by Miru, Willi and Leia. In addition, Ayua by dialog knows some special martial arts moves Nika will only learn if he marries either her or one of her cousins, which must be Leia´s daughters (and maybe even Ayua´s halfsisters). Miru teaches these moves only William, Leia and to a degree Kati, so Ayua can have learned it only from them. Ir is far more likely that Miru and Willi are still together.
What if 3:While it could be possible for Leia and Nojiko not getting along, the thing is that not only Leia has serious money by the time of SG, but most other family members too. Considering Ayua´s car, Willi and Miru must have money as well. So Miru could help her without Leia´s money playing a role.
 
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I always found it strange that Nojiko had so little money. I mean she is a doctor and they earn good money all over the world, maybe not rich but definitely not poor either. It would have been a lot more realistic if Ocean had made her a nurse, they work just as hard but get much less money. :cry:
To be fair, it really depends on which kind of doctor you are, and in what kind of hospital you're working at. For example, a Family Medicine Doctor earns good enough, but never as much as a surgeon or an anesthetist. An otoralyngologist or Urologist are very specialized, but they still earn way less than a gastroenterologists (at least that's how it is in my country).

So let's say, if Noji is a Family Medicine Doctor working in a Hospital that works with organizations that help people out, she will earn less than a anesthetist in an elite hospital. If we take in account she's taking care of 2 (late) teens that are going to College (Can't remember if they're paying a substantial tuition), money can get drained pretty fast.

And we know the characters of SG are connected to WIab's, but we despite sharing certain physical characteristics with the Zane family, we still don't know who Nika's and Nami's parents were, how much money the left them or if their will specifies if Noji can have access to it (though it would be weird if she didn't, since she's taking care of them).
 

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And we know the characters of SG are connected to WIab's, but we despite sharing certain physical characteristics with the Zane family, we still don't know who Nika's and Nami's parents were, how much money the left them or if their will specifies if Noji can have access to it (though it would be weird if she didn't, since she's taking care of them).
Considering what we know so far from WIAB and SG, I do not think Nika and Nami are "direct" Zanes, but the offspring of good and tight friends of them. Which is why the family still hovers in the background, but does not interfere much(until maybe some pressing reason pops up).Ayua for instance seems not to know the two, which she would certainly do if Nika and Nami were close relation.
Unless there is a very serious reason why there way this "masquerade" about their parents, since we see more and more hints that what happened back in the day which led them to be adopted by Nojiko is a very muddy and "truth from a certain standpoint" and not what really happened.
 

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hello!Yesterday I started the game.I dont even care if the game has sex scenes.As long it gives me good relationships and great storylines between the MC and the girls , I dont want anything else. But I wanted to ask you guys a few things. I love the build up and storyline of Bella. I would like to date her, kiss her and all that. But it seems like the developer isnt focused on her,because they are implying that her and MC can never be together. So I just wanted to ask you guys this. Is there going to more of her in the game ? I am in the part where the group is playing the role play game. And bella left for the weekend. Also,another question,is the game completed?left unfinished?Because in the main menu it says that the game doesnt have sex scenes and its not somewhat finished. So, if you guys can please answer me these 2 questions. Thank you
 

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Hello,
So... I'm around 1100 renders in, I've also finished a few animations & work on the phone is also progressing.
I also increased the weekly hours I put into Blender. I feel like I don't make enough progress there.
Future Treats will mostly be done there. (At least for the characters I've already ported over.
Speaking about porting people over.
I more or less successfully ported this bibi over.
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There are still some issues that prevent me from really doing some work in Blender... For example, the clothing is a pain in the ass. It keeps clipping and deforming. (Which is why Sasha's nude.)
I need to understand the issue itself first.
As soon as the clothing issue is fixed, I should have most of it working for the short stories.
The expressions are also obviously not working as precisely, but well, I'll find solutions as I go. There's a good chance I will make a Blender Sasha Treat in the near future.
I will also create a Blender cinematic for the new SG Intro. Since I had to remove the old music, the little intro with the raccoon is redundant.
I already have the license for the new intro music and only need to get it done in Blender.
It will probably be added with the Chapter 5 Full/Steam release.

Now that I'm rendering a very big scene in Chapter 5, WiAB's A6000 saved my ass a couple of times. The scene has soooo many people in it.
SG will get its own A6000 after the Steam release. (Or multiple.)
Sadly, I'm only rendering like 5-9 renders a night. It takes like an hour to open the scene for every single render in the queue.
The previews today don't show much, but I need to be extremely careful with what I show.

Maturity.
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Deep-rooted resentment.
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Zwei Himmelhunde auf dem Weg zur Hölle. (Two celestial dogs on their way to hell.)
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I never hype up Chapters, but I have to admit that when it comes to the amount of information & story content, this Chapter tops every other Chapter that has been released yet.
I'll see you in two weeks.

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hello!Yesterday I started the game.I dont even care if the game has sex scenes.As long it gives me good relationships and great storylines between the MC and the girls , I dont want anything else. But I wanted to ask you guys a few things. I love the build up and storyline of Bella. I would like to date her, kiss her and all that. But it seems like the developer isnt focused on her,because they are implying that her and MC can never be together. So I just wanted to ask you guys this. Is there going to more of her in the game ? I am in the part where the group is playing the role play game. And bella left for the weekend. Also,another question,is the game completed?left unfinished?Because in the main menu it says that the game doesnt have sex scenes and its not somewhat finished. So, if you guys can please answer me these 2 questions. Thank you
if you are in Bella route just wait end of the CH 4.5 :)
 
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