VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Ilhares]

Oh, I love this! When I started learning English, I learn the UK English, but I only interacted with Americans

That must have been fun. I'm on the flipside, I learned it in the US, but so many of my dealings are with people in Europe and the UK (and I watch a lot of BBC stuff) so I get a fun collection as well. I wish the US had panel shows like Have I Got News for You or Mock the Week (sadly ended). The general sense of humor presented is so much better than what we have domestically.

(veering back on topic) Which makes me wonder a bit where Ocean learned English, because I'd read that he's German, and you can kind of tell sometimes in the things he says (bibi, wormy, etc) but overall does a really good job putting it together. I wonder if his special lady is a native speaker.

 

[Don Sucio]

imo we won't see any sex content in this game, too many LI, too many relationships to build, it's like a nightmare to developer

and after a few updates he will want to redo the first chapters again, also there is 2nd game

blue balls 4ever

It is impossible for there not to be sex in this game, at the point where we are there has already been contact so sex is coming, it may take a long time to arrive, you are right there, but it will eventually arrive, perhaps there will not be as much lewd content as other games (something I even understand since the story and the characters take precedence over sex in this game, which I see well) but sooner or later there will be sexual content. In addition, the very introduction of the game tells you that if you are not able to endure without sexual scenes that you think about coming back later, a clear indication that there will be sex.

 

[rjmm]

(veering back on topic) Which makes me wonder a bit where Ocean learned English, because I'd read that he's German, and you can kind of tell sometimes in the things he says (bibi, wormy, etc) but overall does a really good job putting it together. I wonder if his special lady is a native speaker.

Why "bibi" and "wormy" would be an indication that he is German? I mean, I know Ocean is German, but why this words specifically would indicate that?

 

[sungoesdown ♡]

It is impossible for there not to be sex in this game, at the point where we are there has already been contact so sex is coming, it may take a long time to arrive, you are right there, but it will eventually arrive, perhaps there will not be as much lewd content as other games (something I even understand since the story and the characters take precedence over sex in this game, which I see well) but sooner or later there will be sexual content. In addition, the very introduction of the game tells you that if you are not able to endure without sexual scenes that you think about coming back later, a clear indication that there will be sex.

I mean the game will be abandoned and we won't see any sex content

 

[Ilhares]

Why "bibi" and "wormy" would be an indication that he is German? I mean, I know Ocean is German, but why this words specifically would indicate that?

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https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-4-5-full-oceanlab.29981/post-9496176

Wormy could end up as somebody's nickname in English, sure (like Pauly Shore being the Weasel), but 'bibi'? No. We tend to stick with the more common 'baby'.

 

[rudy007]

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https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-4-5-full-oceanlab.29981/post-9496176

Wormy could end up as somebody's nickname in English, sure (like Pauly Shore being the Weasel), but 'bibi'? No. We tend to stick with the more common 'baby'.

Not to forget "Bellchen". That't pretty much 99% German or another Germanic language. (Swiss, Austrian, probably Dutch...)

 

[Old Man Al]

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Wormy could end up as somebody's nickname in English, sure (like Pauly Shore being the Weasel), but 'bibi'? No. We tend to stick with the more common 'baby'.

Or in these times: my habibi.
And other arabic words/phrases seeping in the german language.

 

[Don Sucio]

I mean the game will be abandoned and we won't see any sex content

For now there aren't evidences about this can happen, so i'm quite. I don´t think SG will be abandoned, things are going good. All games have the risk of been abandoned but Ocean seems to have his ideas very tied.

 

[Turret]

Not to forget "Bellchen". That't pretty much 99% German or another Germanic language. (Swiss, Austrian, probably Dutch...)

Pretty much all West Germanic languages except English have this type of nickname with a variant of "-chen", in the North Germanic languages this is also an option, but they typically use a different diminutive for it.
As for Bellchen in specific, if used in dialect speech with a forced Ablaut, it could also become "little ball" in meaning as another nickname.

Or in these times: my habibi.
And other arabic words/phrases seeping in the german language.

Bibi, both as a nickname itself and as a short for several girl names, e.g. Bibiana, predates any arabic stuff in German by centuries.

 

[sorco2003]

Pretty much all West Germanic languages except English have this type of nickname with a variant of "-chen", in the North Germanic languages this is also an option, but they typically use a different diminutive for it.
As for Bellchen in specific, if used in dialect speech with a forced Ablaut, it could also become "little ball" in meaning as another nickname.

Bibi, both as a nickname itself and as a short for several girl names, e.g. Bibiana, predates any arabic stuff in German by centuries.

question, what is the phonetic pronunciation given to "bibi"?

 

[rjmm]

Taken from this post-
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-4-5-full-oceanlab.29981/post-9496176

Wormy could end up as somebody's nickname in English, sure (like Pauly Shore being the Weasel), but 'bibi'? No. We tend to stick with the more common 'baby'.

Oh, know I understand! "Bibi" also sound like the equivalent of "baby" around here if you pronounce it in a certain way, maybe that's why it didn't stick out to me.

For now there aren't evidences about this can happen, so i'm quite. I don´t think SG will be abandoned, things are going good. All games have the risk of been abandoned but Ocean seems to have his ideas very tied.

Yeah. I don't think this will get abandoned if not for something colossal happening. As I see, regardless if next updates will come quickly due to being original content only, playing and waiting for SG is more like a commitment of years.

 

[Penfold Mole]

question, what is the phonetic pronunciation given to "bibi"?

Oh, know I understand! "Bibi" also sound like the equivalent of "baby" around here if you pronounce it in a certain way, maybe that's why it didn't stick out to me.

Isn't it phonetic, both "bi"'s as the "bi" in "bimbo"?

 

[Turret]

question, what is the phonetic pronunciation given to "bibi"?

Simple, Bibi! But joking aside, here is one difference of German and English spelling at work, in English "Bibi" would be spelled "Beebee", like the "bi" in "bizarre", since for some reason English "e" is spelled like the German "i".

And German is normally spelled as written, there are few diphtongs or stuff you have to know (like "v" is "f" in all Germanic and very old loanwords, "v" is "w" in newer loanwords) and there are no silent end letters in German, so words/names like Porsche are spelled with a Schwa, a lowered, halfswallowed e, never silent. so Porsche would be something like "Porscha", with the "a" like in "a fish" in English, since English does not have this type of Schwa.

 

[sungoesdown ♡]

For now there aren't evidences about this can happen, so i'm quite. I don´t think SG will be abandoned, things are going good. All games have the risk of been abandoned but Ocean seems to have his ideas very tied.

I mean you need to make 2 games at the same time, both have a lot of characters, both have nice graphic and etc, imo its too much for 1 person

 

[Don Sucio]

I mean you need to make 2 games at the same time, both have a lot of characters, both have nice graphic and etc, imo its too much for 1 person

Yes, of course, it´s a very hard work for only one person, but how i said Ocean seems to be very disciplined about how to make things and his ideas are clear. Always is better have a team for this type of projects but he is doing well. I still think there´s no reason to worry about the future of the games (at least for now, life can change things with a snap)

 

[yossa999]

question, what is the phonetic pronunciation given to "bibi"?

d "You're the bibi!"
"(Bibi is pronounced 'Bee Bee' and refers to something baby-like.)"

 

[rudy007]

Simple, Bibi! But joking aside, here is one difference of German and English spelling at work, in English "Bibi" would be spelled "Beebee", like the "bi" in "bizarre", since for some reason English "e" is spelled like the German "i".
And German is normally spelled as written, there are few diphtongs or stuff you have to know (like "v" is "f" in all Germanic and very old loanwords, "v" is "w" in newer loanwords) and there are no silent end letters in German, so words/names like Porsche are spelled with a Schwa, a lowered, halfswallowed e, never silent.

English is pretty simple in comparation. I love how German has few words connected in one word. Grammar is much more complex then English. Speak is different everywhere. But England has it too; Scottish accent vs Ireland or Texan vs New York. Grammar tenses are more complex too. Nouns are written with capital letters.
But deep down they are similar too... Both are related.

 

[Cabin Fever]

I mean you need to make 2 games at the same time, both have a lot of characters, both have nice graphic and etc, imo its too much for 1 person

Let's not flog that dead horse yet again. Your opinion is rather irrelevant in this matter. Only Ocean's personal opinion counts, and his publicly stated opinion is that working on 2 games at the same time is better for him mentally.

 

[Uriel ☁]

in English "Bibi" would be spelled "Beebee", like the "bi" in "bizarre", since for some reason English "e" is spelled like the German "i".

Because for some reason the angles adopted the latin alphabet, then said "what if we switch all the vocals? for the lulz".
German uses the same vocals of latin and all latin alphabet languages.
English "e" is latin "i", "a" is latin "e", "i" is latin "a".

 

[Turret]

English is pretty simple in comparation. I love how German has few words connected in one word. Grammar is much more complex then English. Speak is different everywhere. But England has it too; Scottish accent vs Ireland or Texan vs New York. Grammar tenses are more complex too. Nouns are written with capital letters.
But deep down they are similar too... Both are related.

In my experience, English has it´s own pitfalls and is not that much simpler. I think this is a learning curve thing, why the two languages are seen as such. The learning curve for German at the beginning is really high (for a non-native speaker), but once it clicks German becomes mega-easy, since it is a toolbox for building. The currently longest correct sentence in German clocks in at 1077 words, not something you see in everyday use, but what is possible.
English starts with a rather low learning curve, you can become halfway decent rather quick, but if you go deeper into English the learning curve ratchets up very quickly and some rules are rather strange. Even some beginner stuff is not that easy as it might seem to a native speaker. For instance, "I eat" and "I am eating" is something e.g. German does not distinguish at all. While we can state an equivalent of "I am eating", this is done very rarely and is considered overspecific.

Where most of the differences between German and English come from is the deep structure, which is decidedly different today. Both languages descended from a mother tongue of the SOV "verb final" type. English developed to a strict SVO type over time, German is of the very rare V2/OV type. In German the finite verb comes in second sentence position, all other verbs come at the end.
So while the easy sentences "I eat bread/Ich esse Brot" look identical, they are not when it comes to underlying grammatical structure. In English you HAVE TO begin a sentence with the subject, in German literally anything can stand at the beginning the sentence and often does. Even this small sentence "Ich esse Brot" could be changed into "Brot esse ich" without any loss of meaning and being completely valid.