VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Fun Shaundi]

While I like Ocean's work and I love SG and some of the new things/changes/reworks of the early renders, there's also things I didn't like. Gotta agree with funkymonkeyjedi just partially: I have said I prefer how Mila looked before. Her body and face, just as Nami's, were visibly different from others. In the rework her facial expressions look top notch, but her face changed, and at first it was hard for me not to notice how her breasts looked now huge, but also her legs, ass and shoulders looked fuller.

The cinematic with Nika's fight, as well as the intro, were amazing. I'd say before I understand why OCean removed them (because of the music licensing issue), but it's a shame to see them gone. I also liked the change made to Bella's behavior, but I can understand why others don't like her. For me it just feels like Ocean decided to be more descriptive about what goes through her mind and humanized her in a more evident way, but to others she's just a completely different person.

I do think, however, the changes were necessary. Ocean is trying to offer a VN unique in its genre (An adult visual novel that happens to have 'adult scenes', not only a mindless fuckfest) and he managed to get it on steam. It makes sense that when taking such an important, step, he wanted to make sure the quality of both earlier and latest renders matched perfectly.

 

[rudy007]

I really want SG to be a great story and adventure. I got attached to many of the earlier characters before they got turned into a cartoon-ish result with the girls and the stupid 100, 8, 100 body dimensions. What's next? giving the MC a 16 inch long dick with a 9 inch girth and a bulge like he's walking around with one of the twin towers in his pants? I'm just so sick of seeing such a stupid style be overused by every other fucking VN, who the fuck is deranged enough to even find that appealing? So I'm hoping the story turns out to be fucking spectacular.

Ha ha. The worst thing that too many developers do today is: dick... OMG:.. WTF?! Is that a dick or a third leg grow on the false place and point in wrong direction?
Tits: Very front-heavy models who need weights on their backs to not fall on their nose.
I'm glad we have here not only front-heavy models, but most of them are. Second thing: if so many pretty faces are on one place it's probably Miss World pageant...
But i like both Ocean's games.

 

[rudy007]

Yeah. And this also could happen with others LIs too. I don't see Nami dong well with the older ladies or having conflicting thoughts with someone she likes, like Vic, when her jealousy starts to bare its teeth. I think in the end, I see Nami as more possessive character who will have degrees of problems with any LI that isn't her.

The exact reason why I'm so much interested in Bella/Nami path... Ocean said it's possible (NO backsies now, Ocean... please...) One is possesive, one is crazy... Popcorn battle...

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

The exact reason why I'm so much interested in Bella/Nami path... Ocean said it's possible (NO backsies now, Ocean... please...) One is possesive, one is crazy... Popcorn battle...

Strangely, as much as I agree with you, I'm somehow more intrigued with how Victoria will turn out. Her and that other girl who does cam shows (I'm fucking horrible with names, I can't remember hers now for some reason). But yeah, As much as I can't wait to see how Bella & Nami pan-out (hopefully they will remain as interesting as before), but I'm more interested in the 2 aforementioned (Vic and aaaarg still drawing a blank on the other girl).

 

[rudy007]

Strangely, as much as I agree with you, I'm somehow more intrigued with how Victoria will turn out. Her and that other girl who does cam shows (I'm fucking horrible with names, I can't remember hers now for some reason). But yeah, As much as I can't wait to see how Bella & Nami pan-out (hopefully they will remain as interesting as before), but I'm more interested in the 2 aforementioned (Vic and aaaarg still drawing a blank on the other girl).

If we all wanted the same story (and girls), Ocean could comfortable make a kinetic novel with far less (hot) characters... But we're not all the same, and I'm glad we're not.
I like other girls too, and MILF's too. I'm glad we have so many good ones.
The only thing that is concerning is: too many paths=too much time between updates and uncertain end. We're speaking about decades. I don't think in a decade VN will look like this anymore.

 

[DougsLeftNut]

Nami has a split personality, we'll call her "Iman," and her jealousy caused her violent killer self to emerge and murder Summer. She's also responsible for every other tragedy to strike the MC, including their parents' death. Take that, Hitchcock!

 

[yossa999]

Nami has a split personality, we'll call her "Iman," and her jealousy caused her violent killer self to emerge and murder Summer. She's also responsible for every other tragedy to strike the MC, including their parents' death. Take that, Hitchcock! View attachment 2692568

And we even put in a whitespace sometimes to prove that "I man" was supposed to be the secret trans person that was mentioned in earlier versions of the game. Sadly, this arc seems to have been erased from the story, so the whitespace is no longer needed.

 

[Ceoman]

Guys can someone guide me for what Ocean uses for rendering? It`s different and I saw this style in 2 other games. Is he using Blender instead of Daz? Or is it about assets? This style is kinda unique from its rivals. Thank you.

 

[Turret]

Guys can someone guide me for what Ocean uses for rendering? It`s different and I saw this style in 2 other games. Is he using Blender instead of Daz? Or is it about assets? This style is kinda unique from its rivals. Thank you.

Ocean uses DAZ and Blender for his images, with a hearty seasoning of modified DAZ characters. While you can recognise most base DAZ characters used, they are modified and reworked to a high degree. in addition, Ocean takes the time to work on the background of a pic as well. e.g. we can see people moving, tallking in a bar or the customers at a petrol station are not static, but there is some coming and going.

 

[rjmm]

Another thing about the rework.

It has been too much time since I last played the original version, but it has charm. However, Ocean stated that he no longer supports his original vision for the game. This means that, if he kept developing the game and had the change of heart, everybody would feel the absence of passion after some update. (If this would be a true in another universe, I don't know.)

I prefer to play a SG that Ocean stands for, even if the previous version had its charm. However, since it has become a road not travelled, the uncertain possible future of the original SG is something that will be left open to interpretation and theory.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

However, Ocean stated that he no longer supports his original vision for the game.

I was made to understand that SG was from a different creator and not Oceans originally (Unless I was baited). All he had to do was keep following the script that was given to him.

Either way, this is somewhat of a moot topic at this point. We will simply have to be patient and see what Ocean has in store for us at the next update. If it's going to be more redone crap or some actual story progression finally. I just hope that in the end this thread doesn't surpass the game story-wise in terms of being interesting I mean.

 

[rjmm]

I was made to understand that SG was from a different creator and not Oceans originally (Unless I was baited). All he had to do was keep following the script that was given to him.

SG is Ocean's, just like WIAB. At first, he had help from Regium to render/make art for SG which he already had the idea, but later Regium had to leave the project. So, SG was always Ocean's story.

 

[HogRocket]

Guys can someone guide me for what Ocean uses for rendering? It`s different and I saw this style in 2 other games. Is he using Blender instead of Daz? Or is it about assets? This style is kinda unique from its rivals. Thank you.

Ocean uses DAZ and Blender for his images, with a hearty seasoning of modified DAZ characters. While you can recognise most base DAZ characters used, they are modified and reworked to a high degree. in addition, Ocean takes the time to work on the background of a pic as well. e.g. we can see people moving, tallking in a bar or the customers at a petrol station are not static, but there is some coming and going.

Ocean also is a master of lighting. That adds depth and dimension to a scene. He posted his rendering rig on here at one point and it's the equivalent of a Formula 1 race car compared to a lot of people rendering computers. More horsepower means more complex renders are possible. Layout, depth of field, lighting, textures; it all adds up.

 

[rudy007]

Ocean also is a master of lighting. That adds depth and dimension to a scene. He posted his rendering rig on here at one point and it's the equivalent of a Formula 1 race car compared to a lot of people rendering computers. More horsepower means more complex renders are possible. Layout, depth of field, lighting, textures; it all adds up.

Agree, but it's a thin line between making too little or too much. You can check all boxes and have a scene rendered in hours or you uncheck some boxes and finish in 20 minutes and the consumer can't see the difference.

 

[LonerPrime]

Hey folks o/

Came to this one from WIAB! But, from what I am reading, this one seems to be a pretty story focused game. Generally, I enjoy story heavy offerings, but I generally avoid starting one if they are in the middle of WIP as I'm not a big fan of cliffhangers.

So put it short, as far as present content goes, how much of reading value can I expect out of this? Is the story fleshed out enough that there are meaningful routes to enjoy? Also, one last bit, was their any information shared by Ocean that tracks how far the game is from completion?

I understand that there is no sexual content currently and I'm cool with that as that is not priority for me, but I'm curious about the other aspects.

 

[Uriel ☁]

how much of reading value can I expect out of this?

In hours? I dunno, depends how fast you read. Probably 3 or 4 hours?

Is the story fleshed out enough that there are meaningful routes to enjoy?

Yes.

was their any information shared by Ocean that tracks how far the game is from completion?

The game should be around 30 chapters, we're at chapter 4.5.
Next update (chapter 5) will conclude the first season, so it'll be more polished.

 

[LonerPrime]

Thank you for the reply!

Wow, the story is still a ways off then. 25 more chapters still to go- all the while while also developing Where It All Began.. At this pace, it sounds like it will be a while before either of them will reach the end.

Guess I'll play what there is currently and then swing around in a year to check up on it.

 

[RNasc4444]

I was made to understand that SG was from a different creator and not Oceans originally (Unless I was baited). All he had to do was keep following the script that was given to him.

I would love to see some light shed on this. For years I've been going crazy wondering why I liked the old SG so much and like this newer version so little. I've mentioned multiple times before that in the early days the dialogue was SOOOO fucking much better. Much more profound and impactful than what we have now. The story was far more emotional. Much more was left to interpretation than spoon fed.

If that, let's call it "theory" really is true and Ocean was collabing with someone else, or took over the project for someone else, that would explain why I've been getting more and more turned off with each new update. What I liked was someone else's vision for the game.

 

[sorco2003]

I was made to understand that SG was from a different creator and not Oceans originally (Unless I was baited). All he had to do was keep following the script that was given to him.

Either way, this is somewhat of a moot topic at this point. We will simply have to be patient and see what Ocean has in store for us at the next update. If it's going to be more redone crap or some actual story progression finally. I just hope that in the end this thread doesn't surpass the game story-wise in terms of being interesting I mean.

The story was always Ocean's, but the first chapter and some of the second (original) was made by Regium, towards the end of chapter 2 (original) Ocean had to make renders too, since regium was not advancing with the work (you can search in the first days of this thread) and by the beginning of the development of chapter 3 Ocean was left alone.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

SG is Ocean's, just like WIAB. At first, he had help from Regium to render/make art for SG which he already had the idea, but later Regium had to leave the project. So, SG was always Ocean's story.

The story was always Ocean's, but the first chapter and some of the second (original) was made by Regium, towards the end of chapter 2 (original) Ocean had to make renders too, since regium was not advancing with the work (you can search in the first days of this thread) and by the beginning of the development of chapter 3 Ocean was left alone.

Thank you, that was more informative than the last person who tried explaining it.
Last time it probably got lost in translation or something.

Either way, next update will determine if I give up on this title or not.