Don Sucio

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Hey, is it worth to start playing the game now? I see there are 20 ish planned chapters and so far since 2019 only 4(?) have been released. Is the game still being worked on?
I recommend you wait for the full version 5.0, if you start now you will probably need to restart the game again because Ocean will change 4.5 with the rework and your saves may not work. Besides ,Chapter 2 if i remember good is not finished (rework), so you will see a very notable change in graphics during this chapter.
 

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A better question is what a realistic chapter cycle would be post hardware upgrade. Would it be possible to pump out 1600-2k high quality renders in 6 months? 4? 3?
Quoting Ocean: "So I set up 1610 still renders alone for SG in around 53 SG days."
You don't need powerful video cards to create scenes, so the speed will not change, but for the rendering itself, powerful video cards are needed. Ocean has 2x3090 and he wants to buy 4x4090. If we compare 2x3090, they are approximately equal to 1x4090, so the rendering speed should increase by 4 times.
 

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Hey, is it worth to start playing the game now? I see there are 20 ish planned chapters and so far since 2019 only 4(?) have been released. Is the game still being worked on?
I recommend you wait for the full version 5.0, if you start now you will probably need to restart the game again because Ocean will change 4.5 with the rework and your saves may not work. Besides ,Chapter 2 if i remember good is not finished (rework), so you will see a very notable change in graphics during this chapter.
I would say play it! It is a fantastic game and a great story with wonderful characters. Regardless of what happens with the game in the future, it is worth playing. Unless you have something against cliffhanger endings and waiting for updates.
 
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Cabin Fever

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I recommend you wait for the full version 5.0, if you start now you will probably need to restart the game again because Ocean will change 4.5 with the rework and your saves may not work. Besides ,Chapter 2 if i remember good is not finished (rework), so you will see a very notable change in graphics during this chapter.
Hmm, I don't recall Ocean saying anything about reworking 4.5.
 

Cabin Fever

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In the chapter 4.5 there is still a big chunk of the old chapter 2 from the old version that hasn't been reworked. That's the part that will change in chapter 5.
Ok so it's the rework of Chapter 2 that everybody knows about, not a rework of Chapter 4.5 that nobody has ever heard of. Got it.
 

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i struggled with myself a lot before commenting on this thread and every time it occurred to me to write something i change my mind, but today is the day!

my experience with this AVN consists of downloading it maybe a year and a half ago and upon opening it i see the warning that it doesn't contain any explicit content yet so i took a pause and came back to this thread and checked when it was first created and when i saw 2019 i made the calculations in my head (3.5/4 chapters in four years and no explicit content yet) i remembered closing it immediately and never in my life i clicked shift+del faster

as for ocean's work in general i viewed his other AVN with all its glory (2 chapters omE) and very much enjoyed it but i'm convinced now more than ever that i will never be able to witness its completion in my lifetime!

you know every AVN developer on the face of this planet wish they were in Ocean's position except for the select few that are in even better position for "obvious reasons" wink, but i can maybe count them on only my two hands: DrPinkCake (100% earned and at least has a finished project to brag about and i own everything he sell on steam including dlcs) Kompas (i don't know anything about) NLT (100% earned and has multiple completed projects to brag about including 2 in my steam library) MrDots (100% earned with a finished project and frequent updates) Philly (100% earned and i also have his 2 AVNs on steam) Lewdlab (at least he has a finished project that i own on steam but recently turned to the dark side) lustandpassion (once upon a time good but also turned to the dark side) Undergrad (i also own his work) Oppai-Man (once excellent but also turned to the dark side, also own his work) those some of the examples that comes to mind

now back to the point of why i stated that every other developer wish they were in ocean's position, in an industry full of scammers like ICSTOR, milkers like StoperArt, HopesGaming, Lewdlab (the last year or so) lustandpassion and the list goes on but at least when i go to those threads fans already have or at least began to see through the bullshit! except with this one and to a lesser degree WIAB!!

this is the only thread that when i read replies on i feel like i'm in some sort of a twilight zone episode or a dystopian utopia! even though people consider this a pirating forum! due to the fact of what i dubbed "Ocean's cult", of which 90% of this thread consist of! btw this is in no way shape or form a knock on you ocean's fans and the fawners amongst you like i said before every other dev wishes they have fans like you! where every other constructive criticism or telling it like it is are met with facepalms and pushbacks from every angle, and the replies are filled with "trust the process CUH" & fan fictions and wishful thinking and scenarios for your favorite LIs that some of you maybe will not witness it in your lifetime.

this is what i call the "life" and the dream for every dev, and once the patreon number reaches the comfort zone and with minimum to not noticeable criticism from pirates let alone paying customers up until recently in a joking manner in the replies here that "wait for 2050 ish to have a finish product" then what's the point!!!!! -_-

i never cared for patreon but i always consider it a plus for artists, but people like ocean made me hate it from the bottom of my heart, and the irony here is as i write these words with a broken heart because like i mentioned earlier i'm a fan of his other AVN WIAB!! and even though it has only 2 chapters but only a few other AVNs managed to grip me with its premise like it has, and after chapter 2 ended and coming to the conclusion that Leia is the "make it or break it" for me and every once in awhile i have these scenarios in my head for her that imho will make a love story for the ages, and i contemplate weather to join the cult and enter the dystopian reality with the rest of you and write my fan fiction for her or not then suddenly reality hits me hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that since the money maker here gets an update once a year!!!!!!! all hope is lost and no chance in hell and there's no light at the end of the tunnel!!!!!!!!! -_-

the other irony here is that i wishlisted summer's gone on this date bellow and once it's release i'm one of the first to buy it and even though i will never touch it just to offset and pay for the 2 WIAB's chapters! because at the end of the day i'm a paying customer (not a knock on you pirates or a flex, i'm in the same boat as you if i like the promo renders and tags for an AVN and in case devs for those didn't release on steam simultaneously i free download and when they release on steam even if i viewed their AVNs entirely already they'll have my EUROs) and if you're a 3dcg devs here and release your projects on steam then you can rest assured that your AVNs is either most likely in my steam's library (near 400 already) and the rest whitelisted (232) and can prove it to anyone who like! have a good night or morning everybody.
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Cabin Fever

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Recent Dev Logs:
SG: https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-4-5-full-oceanlab.29981/post-11447725
WIAB: https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-2-full-oceanlab.19856/post-11391848

Estimated release dates from WIAB Dev Log:
WiAB: Probably early September.
SG: Probably late September.


I think that's for the best.
I'm not complaining at all about waiting, but I'm not counting on getting the next beta release of both WIAB & SG in September. Ocean's track record really dissuades me from having much of any faith in those date estimates. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than to hold my breath for one, let alone both, of his games coming next month.
 

yossa999

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I'm not complaining at all about waiting, but I'm not counting on getting the next beta release of both WIAB & SG in September. Ocean's track record really dissuades me from having much of any faith in those date estimates. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than to hold my breath for one, let alone both, of his games coming next month.
I wouldn't bet my ass on any date estimate given by any dev :)
Just copied this from the WIAB dev log. We'll see...
 
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funny i'll be in my 50's probably by the time the game hit's midpoint but oh well what a ride it will be i hope to get a update in story on my 50th birthday that would be nice but it's a few years away here's to hoping ocean can still make the game for that long.:)
 

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i struggled with myself a lot before commenting on this thread and every time it occurred to me to write something i change my mind, but today is the day!

my experience with this AVN consists of downloading it maybe a year and a half ago and upon opening it i see the warning that it doesn't contain any explicit content yet so i took a pause and came back to this thread and checked when it was first created and when i saw 2019 i made the calculations in my head (3.5/4 chapters in four years and no explicit content yet) i remembered closing it immediately and never in my life i clicked shift+del faster

as for ocean's work in general i viewed his other AVN with all its glory (2 chapters omE) and very much enjoyed it but i'm convinced now more than ever that i will never be able to witness its completion in my lifetime!

you know every AVN developer on the face of this planet wish they were in Ocean's position except for the select few that are in even better position for "obvious reasons" wink, but i can maybe count them on only my two hands: DrPinkCake (100% earned and at least has a finished project to brag about and i own everything he sell on steam including dlcs) Kompas (i don't know anything about) NLT (100% earned and has multiple completed projects to brag about including 2 in my steam library) MrDots (100% earned with a finished project and frequent updates) Philly (100% earned and i also have his 2 AVNs on steam) Lewdlab (at least he has a finished project that i own on steam but recently turned to the dark side) lustandpassion (once upon a time good but also turned to the dark side) Undergrad (i also own his work) Oppai-Man (once excellent but also turned to the dark side, also own his work) those some of the examples that comes to mind

now back to the point of why i stated that every other developer wish they were in ocean's position, in an industry full of scammers like ICSTOR, milkers like StoperArt, HopesGaming, Lewdlab (the last year or so) lustandpassion and the list goes on but at least when i go to those threads fans already have or at least began to see through the bullshit! except with this one and to a lesser degree WIAB!!

this is the only thread that when i read replies on i feel like i'm in some sort of a twilight zone episode or a dystopian utopia! even though people consider this a pirating forum! due to the fact of what i dubbed "Ocean's cult", of which 90% of this thread consist of! btw this is in no way shape or form a knock on you ocean's fans and the fawners amongst you like i said before every other dev wishes they have fans like you! where every other constructive criticism or telling it like it is are met with facepalms and pushbacks from every angle, and the replies are filled with "trust the process CUH" & fan fictions and wishful thinking and scenarios for your favorite LIs that some of you maybe will not witness it in your lifetime.

this is what i call the "life" and the dream for every dev, and once the patreon number reaches the comfort zone and with minimum to not noticeable criticism from pirates let alone paying customers up until recently in a joking manner in the replies here that "wait for 2050 ish to have a finish product" then what's the point!!!!! -_-

i never cared for patreon but i always consider it a plus for artists, but people like ocean made me hate it from the bottom of my heart, and the irony here is as i write these words with a broken heart because like i mentioned earlier i'm a fan of his other AVN WIAB!! and even though it has only 2 chapters but only a few other AVNs managed to grip me with its premise like it has, and after chapter 2 ended and coming to the conclusion that Leia is the "make it or break it" for me and every once in awhile i have these scenarios in my head for her that imho will make a love story for the ages, and i contemplate weather to join the cult and enter the dystopian reality with the rest of you and write my fan fiction for her or not then suddenly reality hits me hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that since the money maker here gets an update once a year!!!!!!! all hope is lost and no chance in hell and there's no light at the end of the tunnel!!!!!!!!! -_-

the other irony here is that i wishlisted summer's gone on this date bellow and once it's release i'm one of the first to buy it and even though i will never touch it just to offset and pay for the 2 WIAB's chapters! because at the end of the day i'm a paying customer (not a knock on you pirates or a flex, i'm in the same boat as you if i like the promo renders and tags for an AVN and in case devs for those didn't release on steam simultaneously i free download and when they release on steam even if i viewed their AVNs entirely already they'll have my EUROs) and if you're a 3dcg devs here and release your projects on steam then you can rest assured that your AVNs is either most likely in my steam's library (near 400 already) and the rest whitelisted (232) and can prove it to anyone who like! have a good night or morning everybody.
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You lost me when you implied that Oceans was a(and I hate this word)... "milker". Truthfully, you lost me way before that, but I tried to make it through your post to see if there was anything worth responding to. Nope. The second it became clear that you were upset that users didn't see through the "bullshit," I couldn't take you seriously, lol. Like huh?? "Bullshit"? What "bullshit"? Look, it's totally fine if you think it impossible for Oceans to complete these games in your lifetime but keep that "milking" nonsense somewhere else. It couldn't be further from the truth, and it's needlessly sewing discordღ

P.S: Btw, if you're going to reply to me, I want you to list your actual points of criticism. Like, make a bullet point or something because this post was outright painful to read. Most of it seems like you're upset that in the thread of Summer's Gone, most posts are made by people who like Summer's Gone(surprise surprise)ღ
 

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You lost me when you implied that Oceans was a(and I hate this word)... "milker". Truthfully, you lost me way before that, but I tried to make it through your post to see if there was anything worth responding to. Nope. The second it became clear that you were upset that users didn't see through the "bullshit," I couldn't take you seriously, lol. Like huh?? "Bullshit"? What "bullshit"? Look, it's totally fine if you think it impossible for Oceans to complete these games in your lifetime but keep that "milking" nonsense somewhere else. It couldn't be further from the truth, and it's needlessly sewing discordღ

P.S: Btw, if you're going to reply to me, I want you to list your actual points of criticism. Like, make a bullet point or something because this post was outright painful to read. Most of it seems like you're upset that in the thread of Summer's Gone, most posts are made by people who like Summer's Gone(surprise surprise)ღ
Just a simple and polite question,Fortuna ღ
Why do you keep responding to trolls ? :unsure::unsure:

Ignore them,start about something completely different,
but don't feed them,otherwise they will keep coming back !!

edit:This is what i mean,
now the troll answers,and the game starts all over again !!
 
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You lost me when you implied that Oceans was a(and I hate this word)... "milker". Truthfully, you lost me way before that, but I tried to make it through your post to see if there was anything worth responding to. Nope. The second it became clear that you were upset that users didn't see through the "bullshit," I couldn't take you seriously, lol. Like huh?? "Bullshit"? What "bullshit"? Look, it's totally fine if you think it impossible for Oceans to complete these games in your lifetime but keep that "milking" nonsense somewhere else. It couldn't be further from the truth, and it's needlessly sewing discordღ

P.S: Btw, if you're going to reply to me, I want you to list your actual points of criticism. Like, make a bullet point or something because this post was outright painful to read. Most of it seems like you're upset that in the thread of Summer's Gone, most posts are made by people who like Summer's Gone(surprise surprise)ღ
i'm not one to enter into pointless arguments, i have no problem with you fawning over whatever you want, and bring the rest of the cult with you to fawn over your masterpiece and over each others comments!

upon reading the changelog i can't make how many renders are created so far because there're 2 chapters that got reworked but if you think it's acceptable in a planned 32 chapters AVN and in the span of five fucking years to only release 4.5 chapters including rework for 2 of them with no explicit content yet (which btw save you on a lot of time to create the scenarios for them and positions and animations if included) on the basis of "SUMMER'S GONE STORY IS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER EXCISTED IN THE HSITORY OF EROTIC FICTION" like most of the comments and reviews here say and "IT NEEDS AT LEAST 10-12 CHAPTERS BEFORE WE GET TO THE JUICY STUFF" now i can't be the judge of that since i have no intention in reading it

the only thing i can compare it to is his other project: if the chapters are somewhat similar in length: chapter 1 & 2 of WIAB are average (standard) to below average in length compared to many other excellent AVNs on the market today! (but you can't compare him to other devs because he releases short updates if you take into account the yearly release) and other than 2 girlfriend's scenes with animations and 2 brief ones with her also (one frame animation) and Leia's teaser other than that all of it consist of still renders and you know how long those 2 chapters took to release.

now i know for you this is more than enough from your lord and savior, but for me and many other AVNs enthusiasts not even close to good enough or acceptable, and in my book YES "MILKING" and "LAZY" and "EXCUSES" here i said it!

also another point of contention you know there are many other AVN devs nowadays that are trying to copy the "Ocean's method" once they saw his success and they began prolonging their stories before reaching the point of releasing explicit content by releasing just story and teasing updates in the span of a year or more (unlike him the 2x timer 1 for each project yearly) and 80% of them are failing miserably to garner sustainable support on patreon unfortunately!

again i'm not shitting on your parade, have fun and keep enjoying the the ride that ocean is taking you on, all the more power to you and the rest of you Blud, and other than replying to comments like yourself addressing me i have 0 interest in commenting on your precious thread any further, ever, i said my peace
 
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You lost me when you implied that Oceans was a(and I hate this word)... "milker". Truthfully, you lost me way before that, but I tried to make it through your post to see if there was anything worth responding to. Nope. The second it became clear that you were upset that users didn't see through the "bullshit," I couldn't take you seriously, lol. Like huh?? "Bullshit"? What "bullshit"? Look, it's totally fine if you think it impossible for Oceans to complete these games in your lifetime but keep that "milking" nonsense somewhere else. It couldn't be further from the truth, and it's needlessly sewing discordღ

P.S: Btw, if you're going to reply to me, I want you to list your actual points of criticism. Like, make a bullet point or something because this post was outright painful to read. Most of it seems like you're upset that in the thread of Summer's Gone, most posts are made by people who like Summer's Gone(surprise surprise)ღ


You totally loooooook like someone connected to Oceanlab.
His points were clear. You don't have to read everything to get the points.
He just basically gave some dev names who are very good at finishing the game within a reasonable time and they deserve the money and there are some who don't deserve the money but still getting it. BTW, I don't agree with him that they are scamming, they just have dumb supporters on Patron who are satisfied with less.
I agree with his one idea very much that the Patron support system is stupid, in a way, they have all the rules for fetishes and incest but do not have rules for customer right and dev's misleading promises.
 
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