VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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Manuya

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PR Mitter said:
You totally loooooook like someone connected to Oceanlab.
His points were clear. You don't have to read everything to get the points.
He just basically gave some dev names who are very good at finishing the game within a reasonable time and they deserve the money and there are some who don't deserve the money but still getting it. BTW, I don't agree with him that they are scamming, they just have dumb supporters on Patron who are satisfied with less.
I agree with his one idea very much that the Patron support system is stupid, in a way, they have all the rules for fetishes and incest but do not have rules for customer right and dev's misleading promises.
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preach, but i only refer to one dev as scammer and everyone here know that he's, the others that i refer to them as milkers not scammers and you can check their track record for yourself to make your own judgment, and the other ones that i refer to as straying from the path into darkness is that they're heading into the milking category and also you can check their track record lately and make your own judgment.

quick example let's take oppai: his project is the best selling 3dcg AVN with the most reviews in the history of steam i think, and in terms of patreon supporters he's amongst the most supported AVN devs ever, last year around the same time in a post on steam he promised that by this time of this year season two of his project will be delivered, but even episode 2 of season 2 hasn't been release yet and it will take him until same time next year or more to deliver season 2, now for me personally i can understand personal reasons for delays or whatnot, but for more than a year with the number of supporters on patreon and steam sales i'm sure he could've hire couple of people to help him move the project along and delay only 6 months or so for whatever reasons, i speak for myself and this my opinion: it's human nature that comes sometimes with complacency or maybe burnout (but he never mentioned it before) that sometimes comes from financial comfort and stability once you reach a certain number unlike NLT which is a rare jewel

back to ocean, update once a year and he has nearly 2000 supporters across both projects, and the most die hard fans any dev can only dream of that in their eyes he can do no wrongs and anyone dare to criticize him (god forbid) is been labeled "trolls" like it's been done to me already and will continue throughout the day, now i don't know the Unseen (that's only for God to know) but let's say ocean releases update once every 3-4 months who could've say that he can't reach 3000-4000 patrons easily!!!!!!!!!!! but for some like i said imho it's complacency that comes from reaching your comfort zone number and that's one example, other examples like the case of the scammer my analysis is: the fear of the unknown "what if i finished my project that people have been paying me years for, will i lose a good chunk of them, will they like my next project, let's keep stringing them along" like you said yourself "patreon do not have rules for customer right"
and i can't deny personal reasons and family situations or burnout that also come with the territory
 
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PR Mitter said:
You totally loooooook like someone connected to Oceanlab.
His points were clear. You don't have to read everything to get the points.
He just basically gave some dev names who are very good at finishing the game within a reasonable time and they deserve the money and there are some who don't deserve the money but still getting it.
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No, judging by your words, we are too stupid to understand this. Please, kind sir, start an investment fund or a dogecoin wallet for us, we will simply transfer our money there, and you will distribute this money on our behalf to developers who deserve this money. After all, you have proven that you are very competent in this.
We were just fooled by all these beautiful renderings, wonderful characters, immersive story and enchanting music. And we were stupid enough to wait a while to get it. But now that you've explained it so well, it's pretty clear that this was all just our stupid obsession, and we fell for a milking ploy.

PR Mitter said:
BTW, I don't agree with him that they are scamming, they just have dumb supporters on Patron who are satisfied with less.
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Please forgive us once again for our stupidity, we are absolutely not qualified to decide for ourselves which games are masterpieces and which are crap porn fastfood. But now, once yout fund or dogecoin wallet is up and running, only the games you like and approved will be funded. No more deep stories, no more stupid character development, no more useless photorealistic graphics and animations. Only crap like Sunshine Love and DMD... Oh, sorry again, I got carried away and forgot what is now crap and what is a masterpiece. Whatever, with this funding, they could hire a lot more cheap freelancers who will churn out even more of these masterpieces every month.
 
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yossa999 said:
Only crap like Sunshine Love and DMD...
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to be fair to you i only listed MrDots because he releases updates frequently like clockwork and has 2 finished projects but between you and me his first completed project even though it has good reviews here i abandoned it halfway through because i got bored, same thing happened with his 2nd completed project i got bored by chapter 3 and the only thing that was keeping me was the NTR which is amongst the best i ever viewed in an AVN but in the last stretches of development he abandoned it completely and so did i -_-, as for the ongoing one i haven't touched it yet.

and to be fair to ocean even though after all this time WIAB has only 2 chapters, but in terms of intrigue it stimulated my mind like only a few other AVNs ever had except for Miru part and to a lesser degree Katie unless ocean finds a way later for me to give a shit about her, but oh my god magical Leia (if her scenario revealed later to be full of heartaches and mysteries close or somewhat resembles the one in my mind then i'll declare my love for her and forsake all others), so i began to come up with a scenario and a love story for the ages that will answer her and part of Helen mystery so far gradually and connect the dots, and part of my frustration of his development cycle is because of his lack of work on WIAB (the naïve in me talking here, which is a pipe dream) but hope he reaches a point where he releases 3 updates a year or at least 2 for WIAB, but here is the priority i think
 
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Ignore is the best tool F95 has to offer. Especially when someone goes off on a whole-page diatribe and childishly overly dramatic claims like, "I will never see the ending in my lifetime." Seriously? Get a life.

Life is far too short to deal with these kinds of people. Ocean consistently puts out excellent work, regardless of how long that takes. I have at least ten visual novels I directly contribute financially to that update annually. The work is worth it.

It is seriously difficult for me to understand how these people are grown men. So, fuck the haters and the trolls who have nothing better to do with their lives. Engage in intelligent, mature discussions that promote the visual novels you like. And just enjoy life. Your time is yours. You don't have to spend it listening to ignorance on a web site. Use the ignore feature.
 
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imadumb said:
i'm probally wrong, but, i think the plans are reworking everything, then, continue
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Ocean has completed rework on:

CH 1 (all but a very early scene which is being redone)

2/3 of CH 2

+ revisions to CH 3 & 3.5, including the removal of some music that could not continue to be used due to licensing issues.

Remaining rework: 1/3 of CH 2 + 1 scene - CH 1 mentioned above + any continuity and music issues that Ocean needs to resolve.

Rework is complete by the release of CH 5 final - which closes Season 1 of Summers Gone.

Cheers! :coffee:
 
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Alexanderson037500aa said:
We need more redheads. :love:
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Normally, I think that developers focus way too much on redheads. Just looking at the images you posted, it is obvious that Ocean has a thing for redheads, or he knows that his followers do! :ROFLMAO:

I have the model that is used for Nami (Sinisa HD). She is one of the very best models in Daz. I am pretty sure the actual person it was modeled on and the skin texture and color are from an actual redhead or red-inclined. And Ocean does her model justice in every render. Fricken gorgeous!
 
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Fortuna ღ said:
You lost me when you implied that Oceans was a(and I hate this word)... "milker". Truthfully, you lost me way before that, but I tried to make it through your post to see if there was anything worth responding to. Nope. The second it became clear that you were upset that users didn't see through the "bullshit," I couldn't take you seriously, lol. Like huh?? "Bullshit"? What "bullshit"? Look, it's totally fine if you think it impossible for Oceans to complete these games in your lifetime but keep that "milking" nonsense somewhere else. It couldn't be further from the truth, and it's needlessly sewing discordღ

P.S: Btw, if you're going to reply to me, I want you to list your actual points of criticism. Like, make a bullet point or something because this post was outright painful to read. Most of it seems like you're upset that in the thread of Summer's Gone, most posts are made by people who like Summer's Gone(surprise surprise)ღ
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Fortuna ღ - lets get back to the Good stuff, like:

Who is your favorite college age LI and who is your favorite MILF?

I know, I know, some would accuse me of fishing for more mentions of Bella and Amber, but we'll still be friends if you don't give the right answer ... ;)

It's late August and I hope life is smiling on you!

In the U.S., - college football is just around the corner, so life is looking Very good indeed (sadly, for some of us, this is the Only time our favorite team will be undefeated...)

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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Manuya said:
and even though it has only 2 chapters but only a few other AVNs managed to grip me with its premise like it has, and after chapter 2 ended and coming to the conclusion that Leia is the "make it or break it" for me and every once in awhile i have these scenarios in my head for her that imho will make a love story for the ages, and i contemplate weather to join the cult and enter the dystopian reality with the rest of you and write my fan fiction for her or not then suddenly reality hits me hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Could you please be more accurate about Leia situation?What do you mean about make it or break it?
 
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Nurikabe said:
Normally, I think that developers focus way too much on redheads. Just looking at the images you posted, it is obvious that Ocean has a thing for redheads, or he knows that his followers do! :ROFLMAO:

I have the model that is used for Nami (Sinisa HD). She is one of the very best models in Daz. I am pretty sure the actual person it was modeled on and the skin texture and color are from an actual redhead or red-inclined. And Ocean does her model justice in every render. Fricken gorgeous!
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Bella, Amber, Claire, Nadia, Mila, Maja, Kate and especially Sasha look at you with disapproval :KEK:
 
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Doomyk said:
Could you please be more accurate about Leia situation?What do you mean about make it or break it?
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nothing serious, relax, there's no situation with her, i was just referring to the fact that in Ocean's other AVN WIAB and for me personally the way Ocean write her character in the upcoming chapters will determine weather the AVN is for me or not, do i enjoy it or not, because so far out of all the characters that got introduced she's the only one i gave shit about and to a lesser degree Helen, Monica, Zoey, Katarina, Scarlet as for the rest i don't care or can't wait to offload like Miru if possible.
Leia is my #1 ---------> well written character = great AVN ---------> she'll "make or break" the AVN for me
 
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