m111m123

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And he doens't cry, he has clearly panic attacks.
Let it be not tears but sweat as you said. Aren't you wondering where the MC's got a panic attack from? After all, they do not just happen so there must be a trigger. As I wrote earlier, MC had a situation with Victoria where the eraser served as a trigger. This is simply superbly portrayed by the author. What do you think was the trigger here?
They were two when SG and WIAB started, no idea what the other guys name was, it doesn't really matter anymore nowadays. And while it was kinda a boring, comically over the top, falling down in high school version when they made it together it became something WAY better now.
You are the first person who says that the old SG failed.


I will do what most others already do here from now on, because you are either a troll or an unempathic weirdo. Have a nice one.
If someone's opinion does not coincide with yours, then this person is a troll?
 

m111m123

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Really,you are one of the most laughable and pathetic trolls i have ever seen here,
just grabbing art and images from the internet and sex sites
You are a real record holder for stupidity :) Do you really think that people walk around different sites in search of pictures? You probably don’t even know what a neural network is and how to use it to search for pictures. You can write to me as much as you like, I love to laugh :)
 
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I don't know what effect of realism can give a blurred scene where nothing is visible. If the MC was very drunk at that moment and Ocean expressed it in this way, then I think you are right.
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It's obvious that Ocean wants to make a cinematographic novel, where the scenes can show what Mc is feeling or doing at that moment, SG is more of a sentimental game (at least for me), it tries to express feelings and that's why the change in the scene, above we have a good scene that shows us the place so that the player can know where he is, the image below shows the view of Mc and Bella into the place, and I think it's because Ocean try to show that we are there, like seeing the characters on the same plane, I don't know if I explain myself well, but I´m trying :LOL:.

Anyway, this is how I feel about the game and how I interprete the scenes, of course only Ocean knows what he is trying to express and maybe different players can feel different things.

Your opinion is clear and so is mine, you don't like the change and I do, it's not a problem (y)
 

m111m123

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one is POV without any depth of field, the other one is third person with camera focused on MC and Bella. they are different and I'm not sure I'd call one of them better than the other. one is good for normal PC games where you need to see things as precise as possible, the other is good for "cinematic scenes" where moving things in and out of focus is another way of storytelling
Ok, this is my last comment on this topic... In my opinion, in the first picture we see a beautiful car, for which this could be an advertising photo... And in the second, you can see two crazy young people who want to break into the neighbor's house at night, so no one cares what type car is in the yard... I'm done
I’ll answer you two right away, you write about the same thing. Take a close look at the light. In the old picture, all light sources are not fake, they have brightness, intensity and direction of light, as well as reflection. Every light source had to be tuned. Look at the new picture where everything is blurry and all light sources are shown as light spots. They all don't illuminate anything, they don't have light direction and of course they don't have reflections. This is a low quality fake lighting made in haste. Now let's talk about render quality. For the old image, at least 4000 samples were used, maybe less if denoising was used. In the new image, everything is blurry and there is no need to make a high-quality picture. I wouldn't be surprised that 50 samples were used in its rendering. To put it simply, 10 times more effort and time was spent on the old image than on the new one.
 
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I’ll answer you two right away, you write about the same thing. Take a close look at the light. In the old picture, all light sources are not fake, they have brightness, intensity and direction of light, as well as reflection. Every light source had to be tuned. Look at the new picture where everything is blurry and all light sources are shown as light spots. They all don't illuminate anything, they don't have light direction and of course they don't have reflections. This is a low quality fake lighting made in haste. Now let's talk about render quality. For the old image, at least 4000 samples were used, maybe less if denoising was used. In the new image, everything is blurry and there is no need to make a high-quality picture. I wouldn't be surprised that 50 samples were used in its rendering. To put it simply, 10 times more effort and time was spent on the old image than on the new one.
The masses are still pining to see your work, since you are such a guru. Show us your gift!
 

m111m123

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It's obvious that Ocean wants to make a cinematographic novel, where the scenes can show what Mc is feeling or doing at that moment, SG is more of a sentimental game (at least for me), it tries to express feelings and that's why the change in the scene, above we have a good scene that shows us the place so that the player can know where he is, the image below shows the view of Mc and Bella into the place, and I think it's because Ocean try to show that we are there, like seeing the characters on the same plane, I don't know if I explain myself well, but I´m trying :LOL:.
I totally agree and I think that in both the old and the new scene, Ocean tried to express his feelings.
Your opinion is clear and so is mine, you don't like the change and I do, it's not a problem (y)
Here you are wrong. I like the changes, I don't like that the quality of the changes has started to decline a lot.
 
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m111m123

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The masses are still pining to see your work, since you are such a guru. Show us your gift!
No problem. Order advertising in our company and I will do it for you, of course, for money. When the advertisement is ready you can show it to everyone. I might even be able to give you a discount.
ps I'm not a guru, I'm still in training.
 
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No problem. Order advertising in our company and I will do it for you, of course, for money. When the advertisement is ready you can show it to everyone. I might even be able to give you a discount.
ps I'm not a guru, I'm still in training.
Talented and generous too! I'm swooning. I will have to decline your offer, however, as you haven't established any credibility on the matter.
 
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I'll go with a direct quote from my earlier post:

Whether you agree with the inclusion or portrayal of panic attacks, Ocean uses them as means to show times of extreme mental anguish - the turmoil the MC is going through as he tries to break out of the cage of his past trauma - and also allows him to show how, in just one weeks' time, the difference Bella can make in the MC's life.

When it comes to the inclusion/portrayal of panic attacks - we will simply have to agree to disagree - hardly a first on this or any F95 thread - and thanks for discussing it!

Cheers! :coffee:
I just said the same thing. I know Ocean uses panic attacks to show MC has a tragic past, and MC having a panic attack after kissing Bella or any other girl was fit for his situation. But in rework, his just having a panic attack by just being outside is laughable for me (side note: I don't know anything about mental problems, and I'm just telling you what I think is great).
 

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I just said the same thing. I know Ocean uses panic attacks to show MC has a tragic past, and MC having a panic attack after kissing Bella or any other girl was fit for his situation. But in rework, his just having a panic attack by just being outside is laughable for me (side note: I don't know anything about mental problems, and I'm just telling you what I think is great).
Well having panic attacks by going outside is a thing. More aligned with depression and social anxiety. However, the whole acting like he has severe depression, ptsd and panic attacks because his childhood friend vanished 5+ years prior is just.. odd. Unless I completely forgot about an incident that brought it on (been a few months since I last played). Given he has a form of erectile dysfunction, which I can only assume is psychosomatic would lead me to think something massive happened (other than just the friend vanishing) causing that amount of stress, or mental trauma, to occur. I am guessing the story will unfold more down the line to reveal as to why he has such things to that level. At least I hope so anyway. Has to be more than just a childhood sweetheart vanishing.
 

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kinda like hollywood, no one is original it's all repeats of the original concept no one has a good idea of a movie anymore hollywood is pretty much done for for the coming furture all i see is part 2's and 3's of a movie original and they are all bad kinda like spiderman and superman or batman or the crow and even martial art movies kinda the same thing with video games, where are the directors and game developers like george lucas. ?
 
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