VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[PaxHadrian17]

Well having panic attacks by going outside is a thing. More aligned with depression and social anxiety. However, the whole acting like he has severe depression, ptsd and panic attacks because his childhood friend vanished 5+ years prior is just.. odd. Unless I completely forgot about an incident that brought it on (been a few months since I last played). Given he has a form of erectile dysfunction, which I can only assume is psychosomatic would lead me to think something massive happened (other than just the friend vanishing) causing that amount of stress, or mental trauma, to occur. I am guessing the story will unfold more down the line to reveal as to why he has such things to that level. At least I hope so anyway. Has to be more than just a childhood sweetheart vanishing.

We have what I take to be part of Summer's disappearance and the MC blocked it out until going with Nami to see Vic in the hospital. When Nami reminded him - it came back...









This was a young guy, age 13-14, who experienced the loss of his girlfriend as well as a near death experience, then buried these experiences deep. He's only been in therapy with Amber twice so we have no way to see how the recurrence of the panic attacks will be impacted by that therapy. As the therapy continues, will more memories be unlocked? Just how bad will the cabin trip with Amber be in terms of the stress and trauma of opening the doorway to the past events that include Summer's disappearance and the MC's violent incident?

To use a swimming analogy, I feel like we are starting to swim in deep water, and we can barely make out the shapes of a few 'things' beneath us.

Who knows what else is down there...

Cheers!

 

[Massagecook01]

and another analogy is he can be a person swimming in fresh water begging for something to drink, everything he is looking for is surrounded around him.

 

[John972]

I don't know what effect of realism can give a blurred scene where nothing is visible. If the MC was very drunk at that moment and Ocean expressed it in this way, then I think you are right.
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WTF are you on? Going through your posts (like this one), I can only conclude you either get your rocks off trolling or are the living, breathing epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

"I don't know what effect of realism can give a blurred scene where nothing is visible"

What an astoundingly ignorant comment. If you had any design, artistic, or photographic training then you wouldn't make such a comment using these two example images.

Let's examine these two images for ya. I will ELI5 so you can understand.

1. It's nighttime, meaning there is an absence of ambient light. The only illumination is artificial lighting on the building exteriors. The MC and Bella are rightly observing the house and car from the shadows, meaning they are not lit up like Christmas trees.

2. The top image has a long focal distance between the scene (house and car) and the viewer POV, meaning the scene has a large depth-of-field. Funnily enough, it mirrors real life.

3. The composition and large depth-of-field of the top image sets the scene for the player and draws their attention toward the car - a central part of the impending scene.

4. The bottom image has a short focal distance between the MC/Bella and the viewer POV, meaning the scene has a small depth-of-field. That is, if the viewer focuses on the MC & Bella, then the background appears blurred. Funnily enough, it mirrors real life.

5. The composition and shallow depth-of-field of the bottom image immediately draws the players attention to the MC & Bella and then on to the car. To reiterate: it's nighttime and the MC & Bella are observing from the cover of darkness. The image concisely conveys three important facets of the impending scene: 1. the MC & Bella, 2. the car, and 3. the MC & Bella's interest in the car. This visual technique is called "Leading the Viewer's Eye" (look it up).

6. A natural point-of-view, careful composition, and attention to detail in the environmentals make an AVN more life-like and immersive and less like a FPS.

If you actually had any knowledge in the technical subjects you post about, you would know all this...

 

[yossa999]

WTF are you on? Going through your posts (like this one), I can only conclude you either get your rocks off trolling or are the living, breathing epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

"I don't know what effect of realism can give a blurred scene where nothing is visible"

What an astoundingly ignorant comment. If you had any design, artistic, or photographic training then you wouldn't make such a comment using these two example images.

Let's examine these two images for ya. I will ELI5 so you can understand.

1. It's nighttime, meaning there is an absence of ambient light. The only illumination is artificial lighting on the building exteriors. The MC and Bella are rightly observing the house and car from the shadows, meaning they are not lit up like Christmas trees.

2. The top image has a long focal distance between the scene (house and car) and the viewer POV, meaning the scene has a large depth-of-field. Funnily enough, it mirrors real life.

3. The composition of the top image sets the scene for the player and draws their attention toward the car - a central part of the impending scene.

4. The bottom image has a short focal distance between the MC/Bella and the viewer POV, meaning the scene has a small depth-of-field. That is, if the viewer focuses on the MC & Bella, then the background appears blurred. Funnily enough, it mirrors real life.

5. The composition and shallow depth of field of the bottom image immediately draws the players attention to the MC & Bella and then on to the car. To reiterate: it's nighttime and the MC & Bella are observing from the cover of darkness. The image concisely conveys three important facets of the impending scene: 1. the MC & Bella, 2. the car, and 3. the MC & Bella's interest in the car. This visual technique is called "Leading the Viewer's Eye" (look it up). If you actually had any knowledge in the technical subjects you post about, you would know this...

While you and the other guys are still feeding this green one, it's very entertaining to read your posts, especially this one. Well written. So, given the pros and cons, the troll is doing a great job for this thread by inspiring you to write posts like this.

 

[John972]

While you and the other guys are still feeding this green one, it's very entertaining to read your posts, especially this one. Well written. So, given the pros and cons, the troll is doing a great job for this thread by inspiring you to write posts like this.

Yeah, I know...

I was SMH so much, I could no longer resist the urge to "feed the beast".

 

[LostGhost]

We have what I take to be part of Summer's disappearance and the MC blocked it out until going with Nami to see Vic in the hospital. When Nami reminded him - it came back...

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This was a young guy, age 13-14, who experienced the loss of his girlfriend as well as a near death experience, then buried these experiences deep. He's only been in therapy with Amber twice so we have no way to see how the recurrence of the panic attacks will be impacted by that therapy. As the therapy continues, will more memories be unlocked? Just how bad will the cabin trip with Amber be in terms of the stress and trauma of opening the doorway to the past events that include Summer's disappearance and the MC's violent incident?

To use a swimming analogy, I feel like we are starting to swim in deep water, and we can barely make out the shapes of a few 'things' beneath us.

Who knows what else is down there...

Cheers!

Man sex and relationship is one thing but love is damn complicated thing it took years to change my mind and put someone in a place that she could be my lifepartner after my first love (she still lingers on my mind) so things vary person to person and how they act towards situations.Ocean done his best job possible with nika's portrayal like he lived it by himself (minus some parts) a unique MC unlike any other avn

 

[Doomyk]

Interesting,will lis from wiab be lewdable at SG?

 

[m111m123]

WTF are you on? Going through your posts (like this one), I can only conclude you either get your rocks off trolling or are the living, breathing epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

I wonder if you used alcohol or maybe something stronger? Hallucinations are a very bad sign. You got into the conversation without understanding and started writing all sorts of nonsense and, in addition, touched on the Dunning-Kruger effect. I don't know this person so I had to use the search engine. And then everything became clear to me. He writes about people like you who get into conversations without understanding its essence. Now I understand why you are very familiar with the Dunning-Kruger effect. I thought it was the alcohol...

What an astoundingly ignorant comment. If you had any design, artistic, or photographic training then you wouldn't make such a comment using these two example images.

And the medical education of an Ophthalmologist is not required to view the pictures? I'm already tired of laughing. I'll give you a hint, it was about the quality of the renders. By the way, since you are such a smart person with a lot of diplomas, remind me why too dark an image or photo is considered a mistake?

 

[alanrock]

To end the whining, the dev should light the robbery scene like Fallout New Vegas ...

 

[Doomyk]

I came up with a crazy theory about Nami. On her path, we may learn that she is *partially* responsible for how Nika has become and that she was once completely different. What if it was not just anger, rage, jealousy, but something much darker? Who is Nami? This is the closest person to Nicka. She can figuratively stab MC with a knife, and Nika will still care about her more than about himself. What if that's exactly what happened? What if she was the one who sent Nick to the hospital? In the beginning, Nami is just jealous about Summer (first meeting). Then the three of them become friends, Nami tries to copy Summer. The beginning of the game is the last kiss with Summer, when she calls Nami a fool. By this point, they had already moved away from Nami (indifference and ignore). What happened next? It was 2 weeks of summer vacation. It was then that Nami had a skirmish with Nick, where she was not herself and stabbed Nick with a knife. When Nika woke up in bed, he did not give Nami away, saying to police that he did not remember anything. And they made a deal to forget this event. After the vacation, Summer found out that Nick was in the hospital and she visited him with her parents. For Summer's parents, this was the last straw (he was already a bad influence on her) and they expressed a lot of hurtful words to him, which added to the psychological trauma even more.
By the way, on the path of Bella, when Nami offers to teach Nick all sorts of *things*, it was a wake-up call for me back then. This may not be a happy love triangle, but full of dramatic horror.

 

[Deleted member 6367896]

I came up with a crazy theory about Nami. On her path, we may learn that she is *partially* responsible for how Nika has become and that she was once completely different. What if it was not just anger, rage, jealousy, but something much darker? Who is Nami? This is the closest person to Nicka. She can figuratively stab MC with a knife, and Nika will still care about her more than about himself. What if that's exactly what happened? What if she was the one who sent Nick to the hospital? In the beginning, Nami is just jealous about Summer (first meeting). Then the three of them become friends, Nami tries to copy Summer. The beginning of the game is the last kiss with Summer, when she calls Nami a fool. By this point, they had already moved away from Nami (indifference and ignore). What happened next? It was 2 weeks of summer vacation. It was then that Nami had a skirmish with Nick, where she was not herself and stabbed Nick with a knife. When Nika woke up in bed, he did not give Nami away, saying to police that he did not remember anything. And they made a deal to forget this event. After the vacation, Summer found out that Nick was in the hospital and she visited him with her parents. For Summer's parents, this was the last straw (he was already a bad influence on her) and they expressed a lot of hurtful words to him, which added to the psychological trauma even more.
By the way, on the path of Bella, when Nami offers to teach Nick all sorts of *things*, it was a wake-up call for me back then. This may not be a happy love triangle, but full of dramatic horror.

Well as long as we need to wait another year for chapter 5, if one comes at all, it doesn't really matter, does it?

We will see where it is going, if it doesn't get abandon like so many other good games.

On the other hand if it's on steam and it gets the dev money, well maybe there is hope. There will probably be various paths, so maybe drama, maybe not. Dev already made a list of LI, and combination of LI's which would be possible...

 

[Don Sucio]

I came up with a crazy theory about Nami. On her path, we may learn that she is *partially* responsible for how Nika has become and that she was once completely different. What if it was not just anger, rage, jealousy, but something much darker? Who is Nami? This is the closest person to Nicka. She can figuratively stab MC with a knife, and Nika will still care about her more than about himself. What if that's exactly what happened? What if she was the one who sent Nick to the hospital? In the beginning, Nami is just jealous about Summer (first meeting). Then the three of them become friends, Nami tries to copy Summer. The beginning of the game is the last kiss with Summer, when she calls Nami a fool. By this point, they had already moved away from Nami (indifference and ignore). What happened next? It was 2 weeks of summer vacation. It was then that Nami had a skirmish with Nick, where she was not herself and stabbed Nick with a knife. When Nika woke up in bed, he did not give Nami away, saying to police that he did not remember anything. And they made a deal to forget this event. After the vacation, Summer found out that Nick was in the hospital and she visited him with her parents. For Summer's parents, this was the last straw (he was already a bad influence on her) and they expressed a lot of hurtful words to him, which added to the psychological trauma even more.
By the way, on the path of Bella, when Nami offers to teach Nick all sorts of *things*, it was a wake-up call for me back then. This may not be a happy love triangle, but full of dramatic horror.

Things around Nami are dark for me too, i´m not sure if Nami is the assaulter of Mc but she had something to do with Summer dissapear...at least i think so.

About Nami hurting Mc, it´s an interesting Theory but i´m not capabble to think Nami could do something bad to Mc, i think she loves Mc so much and knowing Mc was in love with Summer i doubt he could forgive somone that was guilty of Summer dissapear. The only thing that would fit in your theory for me would be that the wounds on Mc did he forget all the attack, and Nami could be hidding it, but i find this too complicate to be true, many loose ends... But we have to wait how Mc advance in his therapy to know the truth.

 

[Doomyk]

Well as long as we need to wait another year for chapter 5, if one comes at all, it doesn't really matter, does it?

We will see where it is going, if it doesn't get abandon like so many other good games.

On the other hand if it's on steam and it gets the dev money, well maybe there is hope. There will probably be various paths, so maybe drama, maybe not. Dev already made a list of LI, and combination of LI's which would be possible...

I just say that when dev mentioned possible love triangles,he wasnt clear what we will see at these paths.Dev loves realism.In some tales,yeah,love triangles-happy and love.In real life it is rare happy endings. Jealousy, the struggle for attention and a bunch of other things. I just wanted to say that these path (triangles) can be dramatic ways.

About Nami hurting Mc, it´s an interesting Theory but i´m not capabble to think Nami could do something bad to Mc, i think she loves Mc so much

I want to say that she was in a state of passion and did not want to hit him on purpose(out of mind). Yes, she really loves him, yandere style

 

[Tauro Thurius]

 

[PickerLewd]

I came up with a crazy theory about Nami. On her path, we may learn that she is *partially* responsible for how Nika has become and that she was once completely different. What if it was not just anger, rage, jealousy, but something much darker? Who is Nami? This is the closest person to Nicka. She can figuratively stab MC with a knife, and Nika will still care about her more than about himself. What if that's exactly what happened? What if she was the one who sent Nick to the hospital? In the beginning, Nami is just jealous about Summer (first meeting). Then the three of them become friends, Nami tries to copy Summer. The beginning of the game is the last kiss with Summer, when she calls Nami a fool. By this point, they had already moved away from Nami (indifference and ignore). What happened next? It was 2 weeks of summer vacation. It was then that Nami had a skirmish with Nick, where she was not herself and stabbed Nick with a knife. When Nika woke up in bed, he did not give Nami away, saying to police that he did not remember anything. And they made a deal to forget this event. After the vacation, Summer found out that Nick was in the hospital and she visited him with her parents. For Summer's parents, this was the last straw (he was already a bad influence on her) and they expressed a lot of hurtful words to him, which added to the psychological trauma even more.
By the way, on the path of Bella, when Nami offers to teach Nick all sorts of *things*, it was a wake-up call for me back then. This may not be a happy love triangle, but full of dramatic horror.

I believe that Summer's gone is related to Nika and Nami's real parents accident. I've only played Bella's path and with Patreon's censorship I still don't understand if Nami is the blood-sister, half-sister or what. Some characters ask him why she came out as a redhead and Nika makes some joke or changes the subject so it's not clear to me. Since what age have they lived together? etc.
I think this whole issue is the final mystery for chapters 28-32, for now more LI and other characters + college competitions will be introduced .

 

[Lindien]

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I approve that list.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I just say that when dev mentioned possible love triangles,he wasnt clear what we will see at these paths.Dev loves realism.In some tales,yeah,love triangles-happy and love.In real life it is rare happy endings. Jealousy, the struggle for attention and a bunch of other things. I just wanted to say that these path (triangles) can be dramatic ways.

I want to say that she was in a state of passion and did not want to hit him on purpose(out of mind). Yes, she really loves him, yandere style

Please no, one Acting Lessons is enough for the world

I do think we will see how it ties in with WIAB, most likely the trauma will be related to that. Until more of that side of the story unfolds, Ocean will keep us guessing; if there's no mystery behind the title, the story will be less compelling. Our need for complettion and understanding why all this begain, what it is and why that has meant Summer is gone almost needs to stay unknown, like whaever is in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction, or Keyser Soze in the Usual Suspects. Something unknown will keep us engaged for a long time, once it's revealed these plot devices will seem small and ordinary. RIght now they're casting massive shadows for our imaginations.

It's totally possible Nami was involved, maybe she said something that triggered Nika and Summer, fleeing. What is the cabin? A derelict place? Given they can visit it, presumably uninhabited, so maybe Summer and Nika fled and got caught up in something. I'm not sure that makes Nami much darker than any other jealous room mate... Given Nami is a major part of a story about healing, she can only start dark; it'll be complicated with her, but the process will be how she also heals. We've already seen that in the way she needs Nika, and how Nika talks to her at the lake. Nika is capable of helping her leave her insecurities behind, so she too can get over Summer and her guilt.

 

[Kemal Ataturk]

lazy ahh dev

 

[Ottoeight]

It's totally possible Nami was involved, maybe she said something that triggered Nika and Summer, fleeing. What is the cabin? A derelict place? Given they can visit it, presumably uninhabited, so maybe Summer and Nika fled and got caught up in something. I'm not sure that makes Nami much darker than any other jealous room mate... Given Nami is a major part of a story about healing, she can only start dark; it'll be complicated with her, but the process will be how she also heals. We've already seen that in the way she needs Nika, and how Nika talks to her at the lake. Nika is capable of helping her leave her insecurities behind, so she too can get over Summer and her guilt.

Well, we just have to wait for the episode where MC is having his therapy session in the cabin, I guess.

Anyway, I wonder why everybody's arguing about what really happened to Summer, but no one's asking about the "other mystery" in this story, that is what happened to Bella's sister.

 

[plznoiamnotaweirdo]

Did i read it right from dev log #11 that we should be getting a new release soonish ? Seems to be in around a month