VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[PaxHadrian17]

Hey Pax! No problem! I know how annoying some of these troll posts can get, and I can only imagine how annoying it must be to see paragraphs of arguments when someone takes the bait. Hopefully, more people just ignore themღ

My personal top 3 so far are:

1. Bella - My twin will always take the top spotღ
2. Sasha - Aside from Bella, I find her most interesting. That scar has a deep story behind it, and those eyes told a thousand words before she ever spoke to MC. If I ever have time to explore another path, it may be for Sasha.
3. Nadia - Because I'm a nerd too, lol. She seems like someone I'd hang out with irl, and she's just one of my favourite characters in general... although, if Ayua were an LI, she'd probably take this spot.

I also totally agree with you. I just checked the LI list, and things are shaping up to be really interesting in the next few updates. Those who are not on a path as yet may be in for a treat.

Since there's an update coming in a few weeks, is there anything you guys are looking forward to? Seeing as this is a season finale, it's bound to end with some crazy cliffhanger... and I'm really curious about what it'll be. Beyond that, I don't think we've encountered the main antagonist yet. The Holgersons are only issues if you're on Mila or Bella's path... but Melanie Ceril had issues with many people. Mila, Victoria, Bella, Zara... and that's just who we know of. Melanie seems to be all of the bad things that players thought Bella was when we were first introduced to her. I really look forward to meeting herღ

Good to 'see' you too btwღ

On the cliffhanger, I genuinely don't know. Ocean has opted for poignant endings recently (like Bella leaving Ayua and driving home to see the MC at the end of CH 4 and Bella showing up at the end of CH 4.5 just as the MC is about to have a panic attack). I think it is possible that the CH 5 ending will be similar, coming full circle with someone important that we saw little of in the chapter - perhaps Zara or even Nami (if CH 5 takes the MC away from Nami for almost the entirety of CH 5).

I think a significant memory - leading towards a reveal of the main antagonist - will come when the MC and Amber return to the cabin for the therapy session.

What reveals or events precede this are unknown but...

If the reporter prints a picture and story about the MC (and Robin), will that catch the eye of someone who had lost track of the broken boy who barely survived his last encounter with this person/group?

Will this person/group reassess the danger the MC poses to them if he should regain his memories and rejoin society?

I'm glad that the MC is getting a chance to train with Ayua, as this could help in the future with someone more dangerous than college thugs.

His anonymity has been a shield, but when that shield goes away, who will notice and what will they do about the MC... and those he cares about.

For some reason - human trafficking comes to mind - but that could just be me searching for a meaningful antagonist with too little information to guide my SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess).

Cheers!!

 

[idontdreamwhenisleep69]

Since there's an update coming in a few weeks, is there anything you guys are looking forward to? Seeing as this is a season finale, it's bound to end with some crazy cliffhanger... and I'm really curious about what it'll be. Beyond that, I don't think we've encountered the main antagonist yet. The Holgersons are only issues if you're on Mila or Bella's path... but Melanie Ceril had issues with many people. Mila, Victoria, Bella, Zara... and that's just who we know of. Melanie seems to be all of the bad things that players thought Bella was when we were first introduced to her. I really look forward to meeting herღ

I'm just excited to see how the story progresses. The way it has been written leaves a lot for speculation and I'd be lying if I said it hadn't captured me. There are a lot of events that we know are coming, and characters we will meet, but no way to know how things will unfold.

LIs

1) Nami: Heart of gold, hilarious, gorgeous, grounded, 10/10 girl, perfection
2) Bella: Chemistry, chemistry, chemistry
3) Nia (Tie): I can fix her! Nah, but it broke my heart when MC was being a dick at the gym and she shut down. Watching her perk back up, and lighten up even more after the basketball game felt good. She isn't hard to figure out but is very well written so far and I'm excited to see more
3) Vanessa (Tie): Beautiful, classy, mysterious. Ultimately, still just a girl and it will be interesting to see that aura dissipate

 

[Razrback16]

yo people of this thread, I understand this game has no segs, but is it worth playing? I wanna hear an objective opinion because too many times has writing been praised on other games and its just meh
I hope this isn't a VN version of Euphoria cus that show was ass

Yes, and the adult bedroom content will be coming down the road so I think it'll be worth the wait.

Also to respond to Pax's question -

Top 3 in order -

1.) Amber and it's not close.
2.) Mila (but as I've said in the past I'm concerned she has an STD from her mom during pregnancy; if that's the case, then I won't pursue a playthrough on her route)
3.) Sonia - very curious to see how her story develops. Perfect wifey material there from what I can tell so far - very conservative, due to her background there is practically no chance any other guy out there has done anything with her.
4.) Bonus: Maybe at some point the game might be enjoyable to do a loner run where you just have fun with some of the girls like Coach Hill, the teacher with short dark hair and giant boobs, etc. and never commit to anyone.

 

[Sleepy666]

Is leai nikas mom because they look the same, I know the universes are connected, but it's just wild to me that nobody ever brings that up maybe somebody already talked about this

 

[Turret]

Is leai nikas mom because they look the same, I know the universes are connected, but it's just wild to me that nobody ever brings that up maybe somebody already talked about this

We already discussed it in the forum earlier. And as you might estimate, there are several opinions about it. I myself do not think Nika is Leia´s kid. There is no way the Zane family would have left him and Nami for someone else to raise.
I think Willi Zane might have been the donor for Daphne, since Nami looks very much like her daughter. And since Willi and Leia are twins and have some similarities in their looks, Nika could very well look like them.

In addition, Ayua, who is 99,9% Willi and Miru´s daughter, does not know either Nika nor Nami, before meeeting them at college. And she has cousins we know from the talk in the bar, who can only be the children from Leia and Kati. But since Kati leans more to lesbianism, it is more probable these cousins are Leia´s children. (Also maybe Ayua´s halfsiblings, depening on how WIAB goes on)

 

[Doomyk]

We already discussed it in the forum earlier. And as you might estimate, there are several opinions about it. I myself do not think Nika is Leia´s kid. There is no way the Zane family would have left him and Nami for someone else to raise.
I think Willi Zane might have been the donor for Daphne, since Nami looks very much like her daughter. And since Willi and Leia are twins and have some similarities in their looks, Nika could very well look like them.

In addition, Ayua, who is 99,9% Willi and Miru´s daughter, does not know either Nika nor Nami, before meeeting them at college. And she has cousins we know from the talk in the bar, who can only be the children from Leia and Kati. But since Kati leans more to lesbianism, it is more probable these cousins are Leia´s children. (Also maybe Ayua´s halfsiblings, depening on how WIAB goes on)

Here you can find arguments both for and against. On the one hand, Auya looks at Nicka carefully when they first meet, as if she knows him. Also, the skin color, eyes and hair are similar to Leia. Although their characters are definitely different. We also don’t know what happened in 20 years. Are the other heroes even alive? The argument that here is no way the Zane family would have left him and Nami for someone else to raise is not necessary. They might turn away, they might just not know. But I agree, the chances of this are not great. It seems to me It would be easy for the Zane clan to raise them themselves rather than let Najiko struggle to make ends meet.
It seems more that Monica is the mother of Nami and Nick. Only that red-haired wimp is Nami’s father, and William again left Monica with the cream. Well, it’s not for nothing that the Ocean protects Monica so much even though many people don’t like her.

 

[Ottoeight]

Honestly,

Ocean (the Author) ONLY knows what happened to Summer and who MC's biological parents were.
Your speculations are pointless: both VNs don't give us any hint or information about it.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Here you can find arguments both for and against. On the one hand, Auya looks at Nicka carefully when they first meet, as if she knows him. Also, the skin color, eyes and hair are similar to Leia. Although their characters are definitely different. We also don’t know what happened in 20 years. Are the other heroes even alive? The argument that here is no way the Zane family would have left him and Nami for someone else to raise is not necessary. They might turn away, they might just not know. But I agree, the chances of this are not great. It seems to me It would be easy for the Zane clan to raise them themselves rather than let Najiko struggle to make ends meet.
It seems more that Monica is the mother of Nami and Nick. Only that red-haired wimp is Nami’s father, and William again left Monica with the cream. Well, it’s not for nothing that the Ocean protects Monica so much even though many people don’t like her.

They wouldn't necessarily care: it could be that Nika was Leia's unplanned NTR revenge pregnancy to make Willi jealous, and was put up for adoption because she needed to distance herself from scandal to focus on business (If Katie is doing the uniforms, I assume Leia heads up that Zane interests in the university). Nojiko working at the hospital might have been aware and able to act on that situation, and that's why she has a negative view of some of the families.

As far as a theory goes, it's both plausible and flimsy. Another day, another theory really

 

[Doomyk]

By the way, Nia may have Tourette's syndrome

 

[Penfold Mole]

Only that red-haired wimp is Nami’s father, and William again left Monica with the cream. Well, it’s not for nothing that the Ocean protects Monica so much even though many people don’t like her.

As it's been pointed out several times already (by me and others), the redhead gene is a recessive one. It means that neither of the parents of a redhead child, or even his or her grandparents, need to have red hair. Just both parents have to have a redhead ancestor, possibly several generations in the past.
So there's no need to search for a cheeto mother or father for Nami.

 

[JJ1960]

I am looking forward to the dynamics of when Noriko decides to move in with Nick and brings the kids along with her.

Nika: Why is it so warm in here?
Zara: Oh no. It looks like someone turned off the air conditioning. That's why we are both so sweaty. Per house rules, we have to sit in the jacuzzi now.
Nika: Didn't I see you fiddling with the thermostat a little while ago?
Zara: (peeling out of her clothes) Stop asking stupid questions and get naked already.

 

[Turret]

We also don’t know what happened in 20 years. Are the other heroes even alive?

By what has been hinted at in SG so far, at least the majority of the WIAB characters are still alive. According to Ayua, her parents have the gym/martial arts studio which was thoguht about in WIAB already.
That means Miru and Willi, maybe Dylan if Ayua comes from the possible open relationship path, are still alive. Kati as well, we have seen her car and she is the head desinger for ZPR. This also implies that Leia is still around, since Miru and Willi have the gym, Kati became a designer, so someone has to manage the majority of the Zane family wealth. Even back in WIAB that was Leia.
Stefan is also still among us and going by some character traits of "Miss Banana" it is very possible she is Kat´s offspring.
Our video and internet schoolmate, I have the gut feeling is Zoey´s kid, the free spirit of WIAB. I am curious who of the characters iin SG are the kids of Dana and Monika.

They wouldn't necessarily care: it could be that Nika was Leia's unplanned NTR revenge pregnancy to make Willi jealous, and was put up for adoption because she needed to distance herself from scandal to focus on business (If Katie is doing the uniforms, I assume Leia heads up that Zane interests in the university). Nojiko working at the hospital might have been aware and able to act on that situation, and that's why she has a negative view of some of the families.

As far as a theory goes, it's both plausible and flimsy. Another day, another theory really

Interesting idea, but improbable. Ayua has cousins and while some of them will come from the Japanese side of her family, those are in Japan and not in Wollust, so unavailable for what Ayua talks about. So these cousins must be from Kati and/or Leia. Since Kati leans more towards women, these cousins are more likely from Leia. And if you go the reconnection path with Leia it is quite likely one or two of them are also Ayua´s halfsiblings.

 

[BobTheDuck]

By what has been hinted at in SG so far, at least the majority of the WIAB characters are still alive. According to Ayua, her parents have the gym/martial arts studio which was thoguht about in WIAB already.
That means Miru and Willi, maybe Dylan if Ayua comes from the possible open relationship path, are still alive. Kati as well, we have seen her car and she is the head desinger for ZPR. This also implies that Leia is still around, since Miru and Willi have the gym, Kati became a designer, so someone has to manage the majority of the Zane family wealth. Even back in WIAB that was Leia.
Stefan is also still among us and going by some character traits of "Miss Banana" it is very possible she is Kat´s offspring.
Our video and internet schoolmate, I have the gut feeling is Zoey´s kid, the free spirit of WIAB. I am curious who of the characters iin SG are the kids of Dana and Monika.

Interesting idea, but improbable. Ayua has cousins and while some of them will come from the Japanese side of her family, those are in Japan and not in Wollust, so unavailable for what Ayua talks about. So these cousins must be from Kati and/or Leia. Since Kati leans more towards women, these cousins are more likely from Leia. And if you go the reconnection path with Leia it is quite likely one or two of them are also Ayua´s halfsiblings.

Cousins would also include Kat's children from memory. And because Willi is Wili, there are probably a lot of 'cousins' I was more raising the speculation to show how easy it is to come up with alternate theories.

I think the interesting thing is that on the surface we have a plot where Nika tries to follow social norms and reintegrate with the world, while there is always a hint of mystery that so far has no connection to the plot ie the relevance of the earrings, the Z P and R families lurking like semi mafia bosses controlling *gasp* who gets to play basketball. I'm kinda waiting for Ocean to suckerpunch us with Nika having a boring background, and he was just collateral damage from what happened to Summer. Summer is Keyser Söze, I'm certain of it! But yeah, there's all the main sharks circling with their own goals, far above Nika; as he becomes part of this society by befriending their daughters (well maybe Jeff is Gina's sone I guess? just for the dynastic story approach) I guess he'll stumble over some stuff, like what happened when he and Bella go after Brenda's phone. It'll be interesting to see if the macro dramas are just hinted at, so Ocean can explore those plots in different breakout stories ofter SG. Speculation is not as fun as finding out though.

 

[Penfold Mole]

Summer is Keyser Söze, I'm certain of it!

 

[Orgitas]

Summer is Keyser Söze, I'm certain of it!

 

[rudy007]

Cousins would also include Kat's children from memory. And because Willi is Wili, there are probably a lot of 'cousins' I was more raising the speculation to show how easy it is to come up with alternate theories.

I think the interesting thing is that on the surface we have a plot where Nika tries to follow social norms and reintegrate with the world, while there is always a hint of mystery that so far has no connection to the plot ie the relevance of the earrings, the Z P and R families lurking like semi mafia bosses controlling *gasp* who gets to play basketball. I'm kinda waiting for Ocean to suckerpunch us with Nika having a boring background, and he was just collateral damage from what happened to Summer. Summer is Keyser Söze, I'm certain of it! But yeah, there's all the main sharks circling with their own goals, far above Nika; as he becomes part of this society by befriending their daughters (well maybe Jeff is Gina's sone I guess? just for the dynastic story approach) I guess he'll stumble over some stuff, like what happened when he and Bella go after Brenda's phone. It'll be interesting to see if the macro dramas are just hinted at, so Ocean can explore those plots in different breakout stories ofter SG. Speculation is not as fun as finding out though.

We just cant know much about characters and their relationships without knowing how WIAB ended.. WIAB's MC could have fuck all girls there and Nami and Bella, Zara, Vanessa, Maja (or any other girls) could be half sisters. Only WIAB's MC dick is the limit...
*I refuse to name him "Will" or SG's character "Nika" because everybody renamed him anyway, so I name him simple MC...

 

[Doomyk]

Summer is Keyser Söze

Hmmm, I don’t know about Summer, but it would be an interesting move if Victoria were in this role. Everyone thinks that she is a weak cripple with an angelic voice and character. And at the end she gets up, lights a cigarette and leaves with a devilish smile.

 

[Turret]

Hmmm, I don’t know about Summer, but it would be an interesting move if Victoria were in this role. Everyone thinks that she is a weak cripple with an angelic voice and character. And at the end she gets up, lights a cigarette and leaves with a devilish smile.

That is something I also speculated with! Few would think that possible, but it has some traction.

 

[codex35]

I still don't understand what if I make big change in WIAB how can this effect SG dynamically
I think this is big issue and hope Ocean handle this

 

[rudy007]

I still don't understand what if I make big change in WIAB how can this effect SG dynamically
I think this is big issue and hope Ocean handle this

Ocean probably has a final state of characters from WIAB in his head. There is no other way to begin another story based on an unfinished story. And I'm pretty sure the Ocean won't tell us even if we eat all the vegetables on the plate...
From now on...