VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Doomyk]

I think it's both. I think Ocean's specifically using Nika's trauma/disassociation as a way to create ambiguity as well as just loving keeping us in suspense. The suspense of what happens next is what keeps us eager for the next release after all, Ocean uses suspense much better than most AVN writers. He's not stingy with details, but loves misdirection and hiding things in plain sight.

One thing I find interesting about the cabin incident - it clearly freaks him out, but when he talks about seeing Summer after then he doesn't freak out as much. If it was a violent incident, and if the last time was a coffin (not saying she's dead though, just as a thought experiment), he'd have closure, unless he blocked it out. But he remembers seeing her again, yet has flashbacks with the hospital thinking he hadn't been there before.

On this, I don't think we can guess whether it was a violent trauma or emotional trauma, as we don't know anything about it. I think someone (Edit: DoomyK) posted about Marla being in on the racing - what if the weird lights in the cabin dream foreshadow car lights? The lights seemed cheesy, but if they represent traffic that actually might make some sense. I wonder if his reaction to seeing Vic in her accident is because it mirrors something that happened to Summer, and he feels drawn to her because of the unconscious similarity of the event. Maybe we'll find out Marla hit Summer while driving near the cabin and that's why Nika is part of her problem?

About Noji and Nami talking about it:

n "We all were shocked when the whole Summer thing went down but MAN!"
n "It's been years! GET OVER IT!"

Kinda seems to me that what they know suggests they're tip toeing around his feelings more than being so concerned about the events themselves. That explosion from Nami is pretty insensitive, and expecting way too much, while she really tip toes around the 'violent' incident just earlier.

So definitely selective, and I'd say based on context. Nika's not aware he's self censoring.

There is a grain of truth in this. Nika is not the most reliable narrator. So, he may be so in denial that he may interpret any phrases about Summer's death as having disappeared, and we as viewers are already seeing a distorted version of other people's words. And he could have seen her at least once more at the funeral. Hence the memory of white flowers. It was also there that Summer’s grief-stricken parents may have insulted him. But this is just a theory.
The problem with Summer's story is that every time new information appears about Summer in the game or even from the words of the developer, it can be interpreted as both the side of her death or the fact that she may be alive and will appear one day. As an example, here, or on discord, there was a debate about Summer’s past,dev wrote that she was very good and loved Nika very much and then added this information to the scene with Nia. This can be interpreted as the fact that she is dead (only good things about the dead) or the fact that she is alive (he gives extra bullets for Summer, tries to balance it out, because girls like Bella or Nami will have a huge advantage).

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

its hard to read peoples questions and answers when there is so much fighting going on where's the moderator for this forum

You can use the "search" box on the top right if you want to look for a specific topic (for the answers/questions)

People are talking/arguing about the game, which is on topic (the games thread) if you see people talking/arguing about something not related to the topic, that is called "Off-topic" which doesn't belong on this or any other game's thread.

You can report those, and the Mods will take a look. For most things, you need to report it for a Mod to see and do something about it. Lots of kids and adults bickering like kids on here. You'll see more of the same in other threads. Some worse than others.

As for me being On Topic with this reply.... I hate Bella.

Thank you, cum again.

 

[Fun Shaundi]

I'm so curious about Summer, but at the same time I don't her to ever come back. For once I'd love to see a long lost love that never returned, and MC having to accept it and move on. Might be cause lately I played a couple of VNs where MC loses contact with 'the love of his life/childhood' only to see her come back (while dealing with new temptations).

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

I'm so curious about Summer, but at the same time I don't her to ever come back.

Cheeto was Summer all along. Summer killed her, took her place, because there could only be one.


That or you'll see her come back halfway through, but he's already with Cheeto (or whoever you choose) and they will fight it out to the death. Again, there can only be one.

Or or...possible 3-way? yay, nay, fight to death-ay?

 

[BobTheDuck]

There is a grain of truth in this. Nika is not the most reliable narrator. So, he may be so in denial that he may interpret any phrases about Summer's death as having disappeared, and we as viewers are already seeing a distorted version of other people's words. And he could have seen her at least once more at the funeral. Hence the memory of white flowers. It was also there that Summer’s grief-stricken parents may have insulted him. But this is just a theory.
The problem with Summer's story is that every time new information appears about Summer in the game or even from the words of the developer, it can be interpreted as both the side of her death or the fact that she may be alive and will appear one day. As an example, here, or on discord, there was a debate about Summer’s past,dev wrote that she was very good and loved Nika very much and then added this information to the scene with Nia. This can be interpreted as the fact that she is dead (only good things about the dead) or the fact that she is alive (he gives extra bullets for Summer, tries to balance it out, because girls like Bella or Nami will have a huge advantage).

I'm so curious about Summer, but at the same time I don't her to ever come back. For once I'd love to see a long lost love that never returned, and MC having to accept it and move on. Might be cause lately I played a couple of VNs where MC loses contact with 'the love of his life/childhood' only to see her come back (while dealing with new temptations).

Cheeto was Summer all along. Summer killed her, took her place, because there could only be one.


That or you'll see her come back halfway through, but he's already with Cheeto (or whoever you choose) and they will fight it out to the death. Again, there can only be one.

Or or...possible 3-way? yay, nay, fight to death-ay?

Out of reactions

Summer could easily be dead, but it really depends on what happened. Nika doesn't believe she is though, otherwise he wouldn't consider spending Mario's money to pay Emilio to find out. Nami and Noji might not be pointing it out if he's in denial because they don't want to trigger a breakdown. The only other plausible theory I have is she's in witness protection, as there's certainly enough suspect dealings going on in Wollust from before in WiaB. I also don't want her to come back - it's better for her to be an unsolved mystery in my opinion. It makes the healing arc more significant for everyone involved. Nia also lost her friend, so many of the character have lost something - for Nika to get the 'get out of jail free' card of Summer returning diminishes the impact of everything else that has happened.

And an Ocean fighting game with all the LI's duking it out would be pretty surreal. Why not?

 

[Kokodeska]

Out of reactions

Summer could easily be dead, but it really depends on what happened. Nika doesn't believe she is though, otherwise he wouldn't consider spending Mario's money to pay Emilio to find out. Nami and Noji might not be pointing it out if he's in denial because they don't want to trigger a breakdown. The only other plausible theory I have is she's in witness protection, as there's certainly enough suspect dealings going on in Wollust from before in WiaB. I also don't want her to come back - it's better for her to be an unsolved mystery in my opinion. It makes the healing arc more significant for everyone involved. Nia also lost her friend, so many of the character have lost something - for Nika to get the 'get out of jail free' card of Summer returning diminishes the impact of everything else that has happened.

And an Ocean fighting game with all the LI's duking it out would be pretty surreal. Why not?

yeah im with you too im sure summer is dead and Ocean probably just add more and more LI to drown the players and forgot this girl hmmmmm

 

[fishbrain]

The ch5 final is never coming out is it.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

The ch5 final is never coming out is it.

Waiting is hard, especially for favorites, like SG.

It will land soon, whether concurrently with the submission to Steam or ahead of it since the Steam rev needs more content (like the German translation) than the rev released on SS/Patreon.

From what Ocean has said - I'm going to get to enjoy new scenes with Bella and something like 1,500 new renders.

That number of renders is a 6 month release for many devs, and we know that the renders will be top notch in their quality as well.

I've got a Lou Malnati's deep dish pizza in the freezer (props to one of my Sisters who sent everyone in the family a four pack for Xmas) and several Fosters lagers (the small ... 32 oz kind ) chilling in the fridge so my supplies are laid in and I am ready to enjoy Summers Gone Season 1 - and yes - it Is Bella time!

Life is Good!

Cheers!!

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Cheeto was Summer all along. Summer killed her, took her place, because there could only be one.


That or you'll see her come back halfway through, but he's already with Cheeto (or whoever you choose) and they will fight it out to the death. Again, there can only be one.

Or or...possible 3-way? yay, nay, fight to death-ay?

Or it was always Nami who couldn't handle the competition from Summer anymore.
Poor little Summer remained forever in the secret basement of the MC's house, along with the mice.
Nami is the redhead and have that creepy smile...just like Leah had.

 

[fishbrain]

Waiting is hard, especially for favorites, like SG.

It will land soon, whether concurrently with the submission to Steam or ahead of it since the Steam rev needs more content (like the German translation) than the rev released on SS/Patreon.

From what Ocean has said - I'm going to get to enjoy new scenes with Bella and something like 1,500 new renders.

That number of renders is a 6 month release for many devs, and we know that the renders will top notch in their quality as well.

I've got a Lou Malnati's deep dish pizza in the freezer (props to one of my Sisters who sent everyone in the family a four pack for Xmas) and several Fosters lagers (the small ... 32 oz kind ) chilling in the fridge so my supplies are laid in and I am ready to enjoy Summers Gone Season 1 - and yes - it Is Bella time!

Life is Good!

Cheers!!

Very much looking forward to it! Haven't played in a while and almost did over Thanksgiving when the beta dropped but decided to hold off. Gonna be like a brand new game again.. lol

 

[neglection]

Or it was always Nami who couldn't handle the competition from Summer anymore.
Poor little Summer remained forever in the secret basement of the MC's house, along with the mice.
Nami is the redhead and have that creepy smile...just like Leah had.
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One of my craziest theories is that Nami is somehow involved in Summer's disappearence, that's why she don't want to Nika to find out. From what we know, Nika said Nami was crazy back in the day but calm down after Summer went missing.

 

[yossa999]

One of my craziest theories is that Nami is somehow involved in Summer's disappearence, that's why she don't want to Nika to find out. From what we know, Nika said Nami was crazy back in the day but calm down after Summer went missing.

I don't see anything crazy about this theory. There are many hints that Nami is somehow involved in Summer's situation, or at least knows something.

Another thing is that everything is written so vaguely that you can come up with several contradictory theories.

For example, what this dialogue in Chapter 4x5 is about?

Spoiler: Nika & Nami convo in Chapter 4.5

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[jllkfsdj]

Or it was always Nami who couldn't handle the competition from Summer anymore.
Poor little Summer remained forever in the secret basement of the MC's house, along with the mice.
Nami is the redhead and have that creepy smile...just like Leah had.

That first is heart-broken not creepy. And the scond is her being suspicious.
Btw., which branches are these two pics from?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

One of my craziest theories is that Nami is somehow involved in Summer's disappearence, that's why she don't want to Nika to find out. From what we know, Nika said Nami was crazy back in the day but calm down after Summer went missing.

That's how we have Acting Lessons vibe.
Ocean, please, make a horror from this game.

 

[Marley300]

Or it was always Nami who couldn't handle the competition from Summer anymore.
Poor little Summer remained forever in the secret basement of the MC's house, along with the mice.
Nami is the redhead and have that creepy smile...just like Leah had.
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One of my craziest theories is that Nami is somehow involved in Summer's disappearence, that's why she don't want to Nika to find out. From what we know, Nika said Nami was crazy back in the day but calm down after Summer went missing.

Honestly, Nami taking care of Summer because she’s obsessed with MC, would explain a lot !
Especially her new haircut at the lake !

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Honestly, Nami taking care of Summer because she’s obsessed by MC, would explain a lot !
Especially her new haircut at the lake !
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And so we have one girl, a mentally unstable blonde, with fits of aggression, who likes to troll people.
We have a potential killer maniac who may have gotten rid of MCs crash.
What can I do, maybe give up everything and join Zara team.

 

[JJ1960]

And so we have one girl, a mentally unstable blonde, with fits of aggression, who likes to troll people.
We have a potential killer maniac who may have gotten rid of MCs crash.
What can I do, maybe give up everything and join Zara team.
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She is Best Girl even if you have to endure the occasional body check.

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

Ocean, please, make a horror from this game.

Nika/MC killed Summer, blacked out (probably in a fit of rage or split personality) doesn't remember what happen... or does he? (tries to commit suicide) dies before being brought back to life. He doesn't remember Summer clearly, only the good ol days.

Or like this person says

Or it was always Nami who couldn't handle the competition from Summer anymore.
Poor little Summer remained forever in the secret basement of the MC's house, along with the mice.

Possible. Summer gets eaten up by the mice, which is why they show up from time to time. Wants more to eat. Demon mice wants more.

But continuing on with my first bit. Cheeto knows he killed her, probably killed her for her (take a shot every time I say her....) but like here

Nami taking care of Summer because she’s obsessed by MC, would explain a lot !
Especially her new haircut

She is fucking with him, like "do you remember the time, when we fell in love" I mean, "look at my new haircut, remind you of anyone?" or Cheeto killed her because she wants to "be" her. It's all fucked up, they are all fucked up, especially Nika and Nami.

Both names start with N and are both 4 words long. Bonnie and Clide, some shit or rather.

That first is heart-broken not creepy

And the scond is her being suspicious.

Looks can mean many things Heartbroken, jealous (like, gimmie attention!) the other look can mean other things too, like "C what I did dere?" "you want to fuck with this girl right here?" "game on, biatch!" "I'll fuck you so hard tonight!" "I'm wet right now, wanna feel?"

join Zara team.

Jill 2.0 though. At least this Model looks better.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Nika/MC killed Summer, blacked out (probably in a fit of rage or split personality) doesn't remember what happen... or does he? (tries to commit suicide) dies before being brought back to life. He doesn't remember Summer clearly, only the good ol days.

Or like this person says



Possible. Summer gets eaten up by the mice, which is why they show up from time to time. Wants more to eat. Demon mice wants more.

But continuing on with my first bit. Cheeto knows he killed her, probably killed her for her (take a shot every time I say her....) but like here

Or such a plot twist. Summer never existed. She is a figment of MC's imagination; he suffers from schizophrenia. Nami and Nojiko play along with him because they are hiding Nika from psychiatrists and don’t want him to end up in an asylum.

Jill 2.0 though. At least this Model looks better.

Only the hairstyle is from Jill (Delphi hair for Genesis 8). The model is completely different and is assembled by morphing from 6 different models. Very difficult to recreate. Jill is just a stock model from the store without any modifications.

 

[Marley300]

And so we have one girl, a mentally unstable blonde, with fits of aggression, who likes to troll people.
We have a potential killer maniac who may have gotten rid of MCs crash.
What can I do, maybe give up everything and join Zara team.
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What no love for Mila…

Well, you know the rules of the Off-Topic Waifu Wars ! We’re enemies now Brother !