I heard the "H" key will be repurposed as a minigame in Season 2 onward. If a frustrated player pounds that H key into oblivion, Nika just might get a Hard-on. /s
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Best long term choice would be Robin. Even if Charlie became your mother in law. Vic is like an endless strawberry milkshake: you WILL get sick.Yep, I know about Zara's mother. Physically she and Bella are the type I prefer; fit and sporty. But she's too intense for me, life with her would be constant struggle, competition and fighting. Sounds pretty exhausting.
I don't play many VN so don't know about Viccy being vanilla, but I do know that IRL she's the type I would prefer. Completely ignoring the fact that she's hot is the fact that she's the best longterm choice from the cast, she's the type you know your life with her will not be torture, it will be pleasant and stable, and she will be with you till the end. Plus, she's such a sunshine of positive energy that she outbalances my own negativism. Also, quite possibly the best mother material of all of them.
I do like Nami's type of insanity tho for pure amusement factor.
So far Robin is the only character that has any decent level of dialogue that has no major apparent trauma or baggage (well I guess Charlie IS baggage...)I do think the earrings are something like that, suggesting they're under Leia's protection/patronage or just letting her circle know to look out for these two. But what if there was a third girl that needed help? Would she get another earring from her massive stockpile of Daz assets?Damn! Interesting theory. That would be a real game cross-over mindfuck, should it be true ('wouldn't it be funny if the earrings were Leia preemptively saying, "hands off" these two girls... no club!).
As for Vanessa... yes, she has a boyfriend, but I also wonder if her sexuality is rather fluid. I wonder if Zara has some stories to tell that would put any Nika/Nami shenanigans to shame?
I still think Nika and Bella are underestimating Vanessa in relation to their Holgerson plot. Alarm bells should be ringing in their heads, especially since Vanessa always seems to know more about what's going on with them than the other way round. All up, the sub-plot promises to be a cracker as to who ultimately manipulates who. Can Nika/Bella discover Vanessa's Achilles Heel and exploit it?
I think Vanessa treats Mario as her toy. So if Nika shows more balls, Vanessa is already bored as the Princess has conquered the Mario castle already
My guess is she'll cat and mouse Nika, never doing anything that will compromise Nick's happiness with Noji. The important thing is she will use what she knows to dominate Nika, and knowing Ocean, chances are the first situation will leave Nika needing to get out from underneath (like the underdog he is).
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Lol guys. I don't get this hate for Vanessa.
For me personally, she is the most intriguing LI even though there's not a lot of her right now.
Both Nika and Vanessa have dominant personalities. It will be interesting to see the dynamics of their relationship.
You all describe her as if she's straight up the main villain of the story despite the fact she didn't nothing wrong so far. And unless I've forgotten, it was Bella who wanted to use her. I like Bella as well, but she's too bratty and overconfident for her own good. So if she ignores Nika's warning eventually, I would actually wish Vanessa to teach her a good lesson.
For me personally, she is the most intriguing LI even though there's not a lot of her right now.
Both Nika and Vanessa have dominant personalities. It will be interesting to see the dynamics of their relationship.
You all describe her as if she's straight up the main villain of the story despite the fact she didn't nothing wrong so far. And unless I've forgotten, it was Bella who wanted to use her. I like Bella as well, but she's too bratty and overconfident for her own good. So if she ignores Nika's warning eventually, I would actually wish Vanessa to teach her a good lesson.
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I don't disagree with your points, but the dislike for Vanessa is easy to understand. SHe treats everyone as objects. She reduces Mila to a pair of breasts. Nami she teases just to find out about Nika and to put Nami under her spell. Zara is used to it, so basically ignores her antics. Nika is just a male to start with, and then she tries to assert dominance, not because she's interested, but that's her default setting. Mario is her toy. Her motivations are the least complicated in the game so far, despite her being a mindgame herself.
Currently we've seen very little that is honest about her. All the other girls have shown vulnerability at some point, which is endearing on a superficial level, but allows us to see into their personality. Currently Vanessa is a closed door with spikes. I'd say hello from a distance in real life and go find 20 Nia's or Vic's or Layla's to talk to, simply because I would be on my guard around someone who projects and objectifies as much as Vanessa does.
She doesn't have to be evil to be someone I'd avoid. She'd the too hard basket. I can't imagine how you'd go house hunting or deciding on what toilet paper to buy while shopping. Too many meaningless arguments that'd kill all vibe (for me).
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Well, admittedly, the Vanessa type isn't for every man. But I can definitely imagine that Mika is a match for her. And if he plans to stand up to her, it will be a very interesting story on a very high level.
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I'm likely to do a Vanessa playthrough, because unlike real life I can break it up into doses and pause her. A real life partner like that - I'd never put myself in a room alone with her. But for the purposes of the story, I'm sure we'll find out things from her about what's going on that we couldn't from any other character, so ...multiple playthroughs it will be ...and if I make wrong choices, the nipple pump will be the least of my concerns. I'm quite sure Maja's collections is nothing on Vanessa's
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Well, yeah. I kinda exaggerated when I said she didn't do nothing wrong.
All I'm saying is that this hatred for Vanessa becomes ridiculous with the other characters with their own issues around. Especially Bella. I bet if Bella didn't have so much screen time everyone would be whining about what a bitch she is, lol.
I remember going through the game like
Victoria. Nope.
Nami. Nope.
Bella. ... I dunno. (I see her more as the friend Nika gets into troubles with, but I still haven't checked her path yet)
Sasha. Hm...
Only Zara really piqued my interest. But then chapter 4 started and I met Vanessa.
There's the mysterious vibe between her and Nika and it fits the dark romantic/neo-noir atmosphere of the game so well. I love it. No other LI has given me that mood.
William and Leia have something similar, but it's more toxic (and I love it too).
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Robin and Maja are my two favourites, simply because they are down to earth. I'll end up most likely playing all the paths, just to explore all the details, but I wouldn't cope with the majority of the characters in person, they're way too intense. But that's the point of games anyway, a world you don't have to worry about 24/7
I guess also, most haters have their confirmed favourites already, so there's an element of justifying their own choice above the options. I'm most curious about Sasha's path, but I wouldn't say she's my favourite ...and my favourites are unlikely to become LI anyway
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Damn reaction limitHaha bro, let's wait for another flashback, a heartbreaking story of how teenage Vanessa protected baby Zara from their bitch mom and took care of her. What people say then
Most of the Ocean's characters are like that, one moment you empathize with them and the next you hate them. Let's say Leia, it is hard not to sympathize with her, listening to the story of how she survived Willie’s escape and almost starved herself to death from grief and longing. And in the next episode you see that she is now pimping out young girls in her club.
Still, I rather don't like Vanessa. I don’t know, there’s something serpently about her... The snake bracelet suits her very well.
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Agree about Robin. I thought she's LI before I checked the list.
Please no! I'm not a fan of these typical heartbreaking stories. In fact, I don't think it would be good for her. At least not in the way you described it. Need to be very careful with characters like Vanessa. Because one wrong move and her image will be ruined completely.
Leia can kill virgin girls and bathe in their blood to keep her beauty.
As long as it suits the story, I'm fine with that.
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No character in the game has implicitly said Summer is dead.
A dream scenario playing out in my head this very minute is Anna from Bookclub is Vanessa's mother and Nika ends up railing her while buttplug-wearing Vanessa is forced to watch.
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Yeah, one part of me thinks maybe Nika is repressing memories while another thinks Ocean is just being deliberately ambiguous.
For example, is this literal or a euphemism?
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I think there is a level by which the people around Nika are being cautious with their words to avoid triggering him, but I'll do a list with spoilers to save screen space:
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Direct comparison vs death. Nika compares losing his parents to death to losing Summer, and that he was old enough to understand what happened.
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Nami and Noji both beat around the bush and don't define things, but they're both suggesting Nika's overreacting.
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Nika remembers what happened at the cabin, not after. Jane (Officer Laverne's first name? So Nika's on first name basis with Jane?) driving them home is the end of it. This implies the issue wasn't at the cabin, whatever happened to SUmmer and Nika was after Jane picked them up. So we have a situation where in WiaB, the original story had police corruption, current WiaB we have the police being obstructed from higher up and in SG we have an evil police officer (Ceril). What if Nika was beaten up by Summer's dad, and he had police connections to cover it up? It's implied Jane wasn't on duty in the old versions.
I'm just thinking aloud here, because I never noticed that whatever happened to Summer didn't happen at the cabin, it happened after. The cabin was the last time Nika and Summer were romantic.
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So this continues along that same thread - Nika is emotional about the cabin in hindsight because he knows now that what happens next is around the corner - not at the cabin, but afterwards (which is why the dream ends, because his mind is blocking it out). In the earlier version of the game, isn't it police lights at the cabin that preempt Jane's appearance? And now we have electric neon 'flowers' signalling the end of the dream and Summer disappears.
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Nia doesn't know what happened either. If it was a death, I'm sure there would have been a funeral and the school would've heard. But Nia has no reason to hide anything from Nika, she has no idea what's gone on with him really - this is their first serious interaction, so we can take her words as being uncensored.
So just having spent a bit of time looking through the script, whatever happened maybe wasn't at the cabin specifically. Maybe Summer's dad was the violent one, and beat Nika up to teach him to stay away, and has police connections to cover it up. The disappearance might've been because he went too far. It's not just Summer that disappeared, but her parents too I think, otherwise Noji probably would've tried to find out from the parents. After all, Elsa's still around, presumably she'd know how to contact her aunt, but there's photos of her being sad thinking about the past.
Anyway, it all makes me think, whatever happened it's most likely not death, and it most likely happened the last time Nika saw Summer, not at the cabin.
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What do you think about possible throuples? Regardless of whether they are planned or not.
Despite the number of LIs, I don't see many throuples that would look great.
For example, I know Bella and Nami were planned (no idea how things are now), but I can't imagine them together.
They just don't fit. I think Nami should be without throuple just like Sasha and Sonya.
However, if Robin were a LI, I can see her and Sasha. Easily.
Zara and Bella also look great. But Bella and Kate look even better.
Vanessa is the only LI who probably needs a throuple. And the only option I can see is her and Victoria.
Despite the number of LIs, I don't see many throuples that would look great.
For example, I know Bella and Nami were planned (no idea how things are now), but I can't imagine them together.
They just don't fit. I think Nami should be without throuple just like Sasha and Sonya.
However, if Robin were a LI, I can see her and Sasha. Easily.
Zara and Bella also look great. But Bella and Kate look even better.
Vanessa is the only LI who probably needs a throuple. And the only option I can see is her and Victoria.
Yeah, whatever happened occurred after they got home from the cabin, and Summer was leaving on a two-week vacation with her family the following day (hopefully, they were on something like MH370 or Oceanic Flight 815). We don't know whether what happened next was fallout from Summer being brought home after dark by the police (the straw that broke the camel's back) or something else.
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We know that Vic is compatible with most of the LI's. Amber/Bella isn't possible. But Ocean said the list will not be updated, so it could be that some things will change.
Here's the thing: you don't just marry the girl, you marry her entire family.Best long term choice would be Robin. Even if Charlie became your mother in law. Vic is like an endless strawberry milkshake: you WILL get sick.
And not only is Charlie a repulsive personality, but she and MC started right off bat on a hostile footing and are at war. There is really no sad story or redeemable qualities to her like there is to Bella, she's just a power-obssessed megalomaniac. She's also waaaaaaaay too old to change. Plus she's already in menopause and just old and only to get older, while your female friends just get better looking and have more energy.
That is a recipe for disaster, and definitely not for a peaceful marriage. Eventually Robin would be forced to choose between her husband and her mother or she would be torn apart between them.
They already are!
MC actually abandoned the party for a few minutes just to call Bella and warn her off, to tell her Vanessa is a danger and that they underestimated her. My memory is vague, but I think he actually talked to her twice about Vanessa or at least there were two scenes where he was thinking how wrong they were and that he needs to protect Bella.
I get it that some people are into being dominated, but vast majority aren't, that's why dominatrixes don't open their business in daytime hours on the main street.
Nika definitely isn't. He immediately fights anyone that tries to dominate or control him, either physically (bullies, Bella...) or verbally (Charlie, Bella, etc.). he wouldn't let himself be dominated by anyone and it's something I'm glad for cause that would immediately ruin the character and the game for me to forced to play someone like that.Exactly! Well stated.
He'd have to be castrated for her to be a type for him. She thinks of men the same as of worms, they are beneath her, she humiliates and mindbreaks them, plays games, etc. She's like the men who think women only belong in kitchen pregnant and then multiply that attitude by 100 and you get Vanessa. The ultimate sexist.
Because they wouldn't have had the opportunity to get to know her better, realize how wrong they were and find out what a great person she actually is beneath all those walls and defences.
Bella requires a lot of investment, but the pay-off is huge. It's possibly the most gratifying and emotionally rewarding plot in the game.
Vic requires very little investment, with huge pay-off, but the MC would basically be freeloading, she would be doing all the work.
Vanessa... immense investment and sacrifices and 0 payoff. If you weren't a corpse after she was done with you and moved on to a more amusing project you would definitely be needing years of psychotherapy.
They are great, but when I look at Maja I only think of how exhausted she looks and how drained. 20-something looking over 30. The best for her would be if someone took over most of the care for Victoria from her and given her more freedom and to take care of herself and to still enjoy some of her youth, it's way too fleeting. Only then would she be ready for a relationship once she's released some of the worry. That's why I think that MC starting a longterm relationship with Victoria would be better for Maja than MC romancing her, besides the fact that MC is a bit too prickly and too fucked up to be that good for her. She needs someone stable, strong, dependable and mentally healthy that would help her into calm waters.
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Only because if Nika brings another girl into their bed she can't get mad and storm out of the room.
I dunno! If she turns out to be a much less mild-mannered person than is shown so far, she could easily turn that wheelchair into a scythed chariot.