PaxHadrian17

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I love that this is just some random person ranting about other people ranting about the game, justified or not. This thing was linked on the OP and I was thinking it was something official and important from oceans themselves like some big explanation of why development cycles take so long and what not. But to see it's literally just someone going on with the tried and true "you can't have a critical opinion of the game" or "say something true about it". Fact of the matter is, whether you're tired of hearing it or not, there is nothing but absolute truth in people talking about the slow development cycle of the game. It is what it is lol. And not all reviews are going to be sunshine and rainbows, a good stance I take with writing my franchise is 'you're going to be the villain for someone' it's just how it is.

This is par for the course when you give people a slice of the game and it's a work in progress or in an official capacity a "live service game". People jump on hype trains, they're excited, almost too much, to get their hands on something. They enjoyed SG and they want more. Issue here is, just like they can leave the game or foolishly be told not to support it, one doesn't NEED to read through every comment. If you're here for the game, why are you exploring 1.2k+ comments to irritate yourself in the first place? Oceans doesn't seem discouraged, they're still being supported and while yes, it is absolutely at a snails pace, they seem to be working on the game. I'm working on alot of my own stuff and I can utterly understand a creator going back and editing and editing and reworking to make things as perfect as possible. That kind of approach isn't always realistic, but you fall into it wanting to make the best thing you can and appeal to as many people as possible. It just comes with the territory. Anywho, I simply thought this was funny. Certainly wasn't what I was expecting clicking this from the OP.

Oh well, cheers and be well!
If you have followed Fortuna ღ and her posts through the years - you would realize that she is hardly a 'random person' and her post accurately captured the feelings of many of those of us who enjoy SG and get tired of the cycle of whining when XYZ happens, or ABC gets announced.

There Is a difference between a critical opinion offered as part of a discussion and the 'Ocean Sucks' posse who get incensed if you don't just jump on their lemming train - discussion and factual statements Not required.

Once CH 5 final is released, we will get another major uptick in those who complain about SG while taking it for free.

Some of us will comment on this and others won't.

If you are still here when CH 5 final drops, you will see some alt id's appear - my 'favorites' are the ones that are years old with a handful of posts about SG and just brimming with the opposite of a love fest...

The post you quoted was from August, 2023 - and its context, as yossa999 pointed out, has bearing on what the post says and why it is even there.

In the end - SG will be decades in the making, Ocean is Ambitious as hell with this project, and I am going to enjoy every update I can on this journey.

If you like SG, I believe that the next release will give you a good reason to try Season 1 from the beginning or at least from roughly the middle of CH 2 when the new content picks up.

I am stocked up (beer and pizza) and all ready for a full run of Summers Gone Season 1!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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why are you exploring 1.2k+ comments to irritate yourself in the first place?
Why indeed.

I guess if you don't have anything else/better to do, why not do things that upset/irritate or etc yourself?

I mean, I don't care much for the game but that won't stop me from wanting to see what the Dev ends up doing with it (if he cancels it down the line or see how far he can get etc) also, I am curious about the "lighten Dark path" if that is still even a thing.
 
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BobTheDuck

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When did the rework of SG and WiAB begin?
I don't know the actual dates, but WiaB reached ch6 in the old version, and then has been redone from the start, complete overhaul mid Nov 2021, so, there's been a chapter a year since then.

SG had the first rework part started during Ch3 and was released 23 Jan 2021, so 2 new chapters since then, plus 2.5 reworked and expanded ones - a decent chunk of ch3 I think hasn't been reworked.
 

N1ghtcrawler

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So we have 16k renders + cinematics for SG and WiAB (-renders before the rework) for like 3,5-4 years.

Ocean also spends time writing. A movie script takes six months or a year. With a team of writers, a script for TV show takes a year. In terms of scope, SG and WiAB are TV shows and one person works on them.

Is it really slow?
 
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BobTheDuck

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So we have 16k renders + cinematics for SG and WiAB (-renders before the rework) for like 3,5-4 years.

He also spends time on screenplays for both projects. A movie script takes six months or a year. With a team of writers, a script for TV show takes a year. In terms of scope, SG and WiAB are TV shows and one person works on them.

Is it really slow lol?
I personally don't think so. I wrote a long reply then decided to leave it at this. I like the game, and I'll keep watching for updates and play them whenever they're available. It's not really more complicated than that.
 

CamSolusar

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Trying out this game after all the great reviews I've heard. Just started and I'm excited, but I have to ask. Does the main character ever stop being such an annoying piece of shit human being? Or is that just like his vibe?
 
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BobTheDuck

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Trying out this game after all the great reviews I've heard. Just started and I'm excited, but I have to ask. Does the main character ever stop being such an annoying piece of shit human being? Or is that just like his vibe?
One of the main directions of the game is healing according to Ocean, so presumably Nika learns to be more social, and live less in his head. The LI's will wear away his saltiness and depression. How fast that happens, we don't know. I persomally think he gets a bit more empathy over the 5 chapters we can currently play. Once Season 1 is out, it'll be worth replaying what is available so far to see if there's more to each character: Ocean's said he's expanded a few scenes and added others.
 

yossa999

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Trying out this game after all the great reviews I've heard. Just started and I'm excited, but I have to ask. Does the main character ever stop being such an annoying piece of shit human being? Or is that just like his vibe?
The MC has a completely fucked up head at the beginning of the game. However, in my opinion, he is aware of this and does not like this himself, but does not know how to fix it. Vic's accident becomes the trigger that starts the process of change for MC. He admits that he doesn't want to be who he is now.

The plot then slowly turns to the MC's healing. I think this is inevitable outcome of the main story. But at the same time, how deep the changes will be and how quickly they will happen depends on the player’s decisions. It's your choice whether your MC is a slightly rude and edgy dude who would do anything for his friends and loved ones, or a selfish, manipulative asshole.

I would like to draw your attention to two points:
First of all, the MC will always be a bit of an asshole, that's what he is, that's how the author intended him to be, but his assholeness can be kept under a player's control.
Secondly, in earlier versions of the game the MC was a much bigger asshole, almost a complete psycho. There was the so-called dark path. Now the author has removed the dark path and left only mild MC version. But there are many connoisseurs of the original version of the MC who consider the current MC to be a weakling and an emo crybaby. :HideThePain:
 
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