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Honestly, I always wondered if it was a scar or something else? Usually It looks different, there should be a hollow or it shouldn't be so bright ( I mean the original in SG) its more like a mark after a lightning strike in game now
I don't know exactly what it is, but it can just be a red Birthmark - they come in all shapes and sizes.
(I found an Image online that looks "kind of" similar - at least the basic "flat" form of the Skin/Mark - it just misses the darker parts that look like a Knife cut in the middle of Sasha's Scar, but that, again, could also just be part of a Birthmark)
You might have to ask the Def of the Game for a definite answer to it - LOL
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BobTheDuck

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yeah, either it's super fresh or it isn't a scar

Or that's just the scar asset Ocean found :KEK:
We can be almost certain it's a scar because of the way Nami asks where Sasha got it (assuming the scar because of the images and the way Nami worries it is a sensitive topic) and when Ayua touches the scar and says "I know you don't" hinting she knows how Sasha got the scar.

He had better ones in the old Wiab, when Willi was in hospital after being beaten up, and when Katie got scratched by the raccoon.

But maybe they were too generic for what he had in mind for Sasha's story, he customised it early, and now it's kinda like a birthmark even if it's a scar - would we think of her as the same character with a different scar?

Nika's fight scar looks odd, but more believable, and was developed at a similar time, so I'm just going to assume Ocean wanted it to look a certain way. In some angles, it looks like it's meant to have stitches, suggesting it is recent (which might be why she has Inessa as a bodyguard):

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We can be almost certain it's a scar because of the way Nami asks where Sasha got it (assuming the scar because of the images and the way Nami worries it is a sensitive topic) and when Ayua touches the scar and says "I know you don't" hinting she knows how Sasha got the scar.

He had better ones in the old Wiab, when Willi was in hospital after being beaten up, and when Katie got scratched by the raccoon.

But maybe they were too generic for what he had in mind for Sasha's story, he customised it early, and now it's kinda like a birthmark even if it's a scar - would we think of her as the same character with a different scar?

Nika's fight scar looks odd, but more believable, and was developed at a similar time, so I'm just going to assume Ocean wanted it to look a certain way. In some angles, it looks like it's meant to have stitches, suggesting it is recent (which might be why she has Inessa as a bodyguard):

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Sasha: (defiant) I never give up.
Ayua: *whispers while tracing a finger close to Sasha's scar* I know you don't...

Wouldn't surprise me if it was the bitter crazy wife of some of those married men that fall for Sasha, and that's why auntie bodyguard is constantly watching her, and why she's training with Ayua.
 

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I don't know exactly what it is, but it can just be a red Birthmark - they come in all shapes and sizes.
(I found an Image online that looks "kind of" similar - at least the basic "flat" form of the Skin/Mark - it just misses the darker parts that look like a Knife cut in the middle of Sasha's Scar, but that, again, could also just be part of a Birthmark)
You might have to ask the Def of the Game for a definite answer to it - LOL
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So I would say, at first glance, you uploaded a picture of skin cancer. I am not a doctor, but I know that birthmarks are usually round in shape. Mostly! - because there are exceptions.
 

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So I would say, at first glance, you uploaded a picture of skin cancer. I am not a doctor, but I know that birthmarks are usually round in shape. Mostly! - because there are exceptions.
The Picture I uploaded was taken from a Clinical Webpage and it was about Red Birthmarks - I quote a Text:
" Red birthmarks are common. It is also known as vascular birthmarks, strawberry nevus and macular stains. Once developed, they do not go away naturally. If they are not treated properly in a timely manner, they can affect appearance and may increase risk of lesion. "

But as BobTheDuck already answered - for the Game it seems to be a Scar on her Face that she came by somehow.
I didn't think so because real Scares would behave a bit different IRL as, for example, the coloring would change over time and wouldn't stay with these "under the Skin" showing redness all the time.
But I forgot the Parts in the Game he described - so maybe it's now just her "trademark" rather then a correct showcase of what happened really. ;)
 

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The Picture I uploaded was taken from a Clinical Webpage and it was about Red Birthmarks - I quote a Text:
" Red birthmarks are common. It is also known as vascular birthmarks, strawberry nevus and macular stains. Once developed, they do not go away naturally. If they are not treated properly in a timely manner, they can affect appearance and may increase risk of lesion. "

But as BobTheDuck already answered - for the Game it seems to be a Scar on her Face that she came by somehow.
I didn't think so because real Scares would behave a bit different IRL as, for example, the coloring would change over time and wouldn't stay with these "under the Skin" showing redness all the time.
But I forgot the Parts in the Game he described - so maybe it's now just her "trademark" rather then a correct showcase of what happened really. ;)
I also think it was important for Ocean not to spoil her looks too much. Although personally I would have found it intriguing if the scar was more scary and real looking with such a beautiful rest of her appearance.
 

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The Picture I uploaded was taken from a Clinical Webpage and it was about Red Birthmarks - I quote a Text:
" Red birthmarks are common. It is also known as vascular birthmarks, strawberry nevus and macular stains. Once developed, they do not go away naturally. If they are not treated properly in a timely manner, they can affect appearance and may increase risk of lesion. "

But as BobTheDuck already answered - for the Game it seems to be a Scar on her Face that she came by somehow.
I didn't think so because real Scares would behave a bit different IRL as, for example, the coloring would change over time and wouldn't stay with these "under the Skin" showing redness all the time.
But I forgot the Parts in the Game he described - so maybe it's now just her "trademark" rather then a correct showcase of what happened really. ;)
I also think it was important for Ocean not to spoil her looks too much. Although personally I would have found it intriguing if the scar was more scary and real looking with such a beautiful rest of her appearance.
It's important to recognise that only the first week of college has happened - firstly a knife scar with stitches would take a while to heal, and longer to fade into scar tissue, second, if Sasha was attacked by someone with a knife and needed a bodyguard following her around college and to social events, it is definitely something quite recent - everyone else knows the gossip but Nika and Nami, because they are new to the social circle. No one else would need to ask.

At least, that is how I understand it - if (as Fun Shaundi thinks, and I think is likely), it is something to do with the married man who tried to seduce her, the jealous wife whatever, that makes a lot of sense. That's why the gossip is still going on at the book club, because it's still something new and gossip worthy.

The weirder one is that Nika must be an alien to have a scar heal in basically a day, or Ocean decided the scene where Nami teaches him to use concealer on it too controversial :sneaky:

I also think it will be part of her signature look - Ocean isn't consistent with wounds, as Vic would likely still look like a car hit her, unless the mysterious time dilation happens between scenes with no 'meanwhile' or 'one month later...' frames inbetween.

About scart and contrast, a port wine birthmark would have been epic. But it really depends on why the scar is there as to what Ocean wants to tell - he'll need the scar to remain until he explains it at least, otherwise we'll forget that's part of the story, a visual cue to remind us of the past events.
 

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It's important to recognise that only the first week of college has happened - firstly a knife scar with stitches would take a while to heal, and longer to fade into scar tissue, second, if Sasha was attacked by someone with a knife and needed a bodyguard following her around college and to social events, it is definitely something quite recent - everyone else knows the gossip but Nika and Nami, because they are new to the social circle. No one else would need to ask.

At least, that is how I understand it - if (as Fun Shaundi thinks, and I think is likely), it is something to do with the married man who tried to seduce her, the jealous wife whatever, that makes a lot of sense. That's why the gossip is still going on at the book club, because it's still something new and gossip worthy.

The weirder one is that Nika must be an alien to have a scar heal in basically a day, or Ocean decided the scene where Nami teaches him to use concealer on it too controversial :sneaky:

I also think it will be part of her signature look - Ocean isn't consistent with wounds, as Vic would likely still look like a car hit her, unless the mysterious time dilation happens between scenes with no 'meanwhile' or 'one month later...' frames inbetween.

About scart and contrast, a port wine birthmark would have been epic. But it really depends on why the scar is there as to what Ocean wants to tell - he'll need the scar to remain until he explains it at least, otherwise we'll forget that's part of the story, a visual cue to remind us of the past events.
Yes, you sound reasonable. Maybe I always miss that it's only been a week in college, not a couple years. and some things with the other characters may also be recent
 

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It's important to recognise that only the first week of college has happened - firstly a knife scar with stitches would take a while to heal, and longer to fade into scar tissue, second, if Sasha was attacked by someone with a knife and needed a bodyguard following her around college and to social events, it is definitely something quite recent - everyone else knows the gossip but Nika and Nami, because they are new to the social circle. No one else would need to ask.

At least, that is how I understand it - if (as Fun Shaundi thinks, and I think is likely), it is something to do with the married man who tried to seduce her, the jealous wife whatever, that makes a lot of sense. That's why the gossip is still going on at the book club, because it's still something new and gossip worthy.

The weirder one is that Nika must be an alien to have a scar heal in basically a day, or Ocean decided the scene where Nami teaches him to use concealer on it too controversial :sneaky:

I also think it will be part of her signature look - Ocean isn't consistent with wounds, as Vic would likely still look like a car hit her, unless the mysterious time dilation happens between scenes with no 'meanwhile' or 'one month later...' frames inbetween.

About scart and contrast, a port wine birthmark would have been epic. But it really depends on why the scar is there as to what Ocean wants to tell - he'll need the scar to remain until he explains it at least, otherwise we'll forget that's part of the story, a visual cue to remind us of the past events.
Yes you're probably right - me too totally forgot that till now all went down in just a Week of Collage/Storytelling.
(Dang, this happens if you play more then one VN at a time - sorry)

It's a shame that Sasha, at least until now, isn't also a main Character and can be a LI, she is the most beautiful and mysterious Character in the Game so far - for me - but maybe in the Future Updates that will change ;)

Edit: And sorry if I switch some Word or get the meaning wrong - I'm German and english isn't my native language - LOL)
 

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Yes you're probably right - me too totally forgot that till now all went down in just a Week of Collage/Storytelling.
(Dang, this happens if you play more then one VN at a time - sorry)

It's a shame that Sasha, unless until now, isn't also a main Character and can be a LI, she is the most beautiful and mysterious Character in the Game so far - for me - but maybe in the Future Updates that will change ;)
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/post-6400878

This hasn't changed much to my knowledge.
 

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Have been trying my hands on blender, and doing some stuff.

So does anybody have a roadmap to learn blender to create characters ?

Like what all to learn, and from where to?
 

Bluee7

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Are old saves not works with ch5? Got this error.

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 463, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
    python hide:
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1131, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1052, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
    python hide:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
    ui.interact()
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 299, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3377, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs) # type: ignore
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 4252, in interact_core
    rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/transition.py", line 53, in event
    return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 743, in event
    rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1399, in event
    rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 279, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1399, in event
    rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 279, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 279, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1070, in event
    return handle_click(self.clicked)
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1005, in handle_click
    rv = run(action)
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 329, in run
    return action(*args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 463, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
  File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 769, in load
    log.unfreeze(roots, label="_after_load")
  File "renpy/rollback.py", line 1078, in unfreeze
    self.rollback(0, force=True, label=label, greedy=greedy, on_load=True)
  File "renpy/rollback.py", line 889, in rollback
    self.load_failed()
  File "renpy/rollback.py", line 807, in load_failed
    raise Exception("Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?")
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
 

BobTheDuck

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Are old saves not works with ch5? Got this error.

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 463, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
    python hide:
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1131, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1052, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
    python hide:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
    ui.interact()
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 299, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3377, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs) # type: ignore
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 4252, in interact_core
    rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/transition.py", line 53, in event
    return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 743, in event
    rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1399, in event
    rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 279, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1399, in event
    rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 279, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1175, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 279, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1070, in event
    return handle_click(self.clicked)
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1005, in handle_click
    rv = run(action)
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 329, in run
    return action(*args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 463, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
  File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 769, in load
    log.unfreeze(roots, label="_after_load")
  File "renpy/rollback.py", line 1078, in unfreeze
    self.rollback(0, force=True, label=label, greedy=greedy, on_load=True)
  File "renpy/rollback.py", line 889, in rollback
    self.load_failed()
  File "renpy/rollback.py", line 807, in load_failed
    raise Exception("Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?")
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
Old saves are incompatible, also, from a dev log, Ocean has upgraded the renpy version for the full season one, which means playing from the start.

Unlike other games with broken saves though, there is almost a full chapter worth of new renders in the full release (at least over 1100 new renders I think) that aren't in the beta. So consider for yourself that if you want to see all the new content, whether you're willing to wait for the steam release as you won't see everything in the current Ch5 beta, and you'll have to replay for Ch5 Full.

Ocean said his next dev log should say that he's submitted it for steam review, but I will practice breathing like I do daily, even though I'm okay with blue balls, I don't also want a blue face :sneaky:

Edit: Bluee7 don't be sad, there is so much new content in Ch2 in the full season that you won't have seen before, you'll have to play from the start to see it all anyway, and to remember all the details. Currently there are continuity erros because the final part of the rework is missing in the beta.

As much as I don't want to go blue in the face, I am pretty damn excited to play the whole season, and it is pretty close :)
 
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Maviarab

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Have been trying my hands on blender, and doing some stuff.

So does anybody have a roadmap to learn blender to create characters ?

Like what all to learn, and from where to?
Time, more time...and best to give yourself even more time...unless you're incredibly naturally profficient.

Very long learning curve even if you pick up and master the actual software yourself, creating characters....that's another thing entirely. Maybe aslo look at ZBrush if character creation is the main goal.
 
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Raynare69

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Old saves are incompatible, also, from a dev log, Ocean has upgraded the renpy version for the full season one, which means playing from the start.

Unlike other games with broken saves though, there is almost a full chapter worth of new renders in the full release (at least over 1100 new renders I think) that aren't in the beta. So consider for yourself that if you want to see all the new content, whether you're willing to wait for the steam release as you won't see everything in the current Ch5 beta, and you'll have to replay for Ch5 Full.

Ocean said his next dev log should say that he's submitted it for steam review, but I will practice breathing like I do daily, even though I'm okay with blue balls, I don't also want a blue face :sneaky:

Edit: Bluee7 don't be sad, there is so much new content in Ch2 in the full season that you won't have seen before, you'll have to play from the start to see it all anyway, and to remember all the details. Currently there are continuity erros because the final part of the rework is missing in the beta.

As much as I don't want to go blue in the face, I am pretty damn excited to play the whole season, and it is pretty close :)
I'm so on board with you, I'm sooo excited and it feels soooo close!

I love how well this game is done so much, when the steam version releases I'm going to buy it to show additional support and do a fresh new playthrough anyways. Some of those new Bella scenes and outfits look really great!

Can't wait to see all of the additional content! But I'll be relieved to see it done so we can finally start seeing more progress past chapter 5 as well.
 
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