VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[RNasc4444]

I'm sure by the time season 2 is over, I'll have to rethink my dislike of Vanessa even.

My dislike of Vanessa pretty much vanished after she drops the act and starts looking at the MC as an equal and not a brainless simp thinking with his lower head.

I kind of respect her actually. Even though she is disgustingly entitled, coddled, privileged and arrogant and has a borderline moronic view of the relationship dynamics between men and women she is also intelligent and straightforward. I'm sure her demeanor (much like Zara's) stems from their mother and how she manipulated and pushed around their father who seems to be a genuinely nice and caring guy.

I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt for the time being so I see her as neutral. With the added benefit that I find her much more tolerable than Zara.

 

[rudy007]

My dislike of Vanessa pretty much vanished after she drops the act and starts looking at the MC as an equal and not a brainless simp thinking with his lower head.

I kind of respect her actually. Even though she is disgustingly entitled, coddled, privileged and arrogant and has a borderline moronic view of the relationship dynamics between men and women she is also intelligent and straightforward. I'm sure her demeanor (much like Zara's) stems from their mother and how she manipulated and pushed around their father who seems to be a genuinely nice and caring guy.

I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt for the time being so I see her as neutral. With the added benefit that I find her much more tolerable than Zara.

Well, we see many privileged people there and how they think they are too good for normal people. On the other hand I get only one vibe from Vanessa's father; creepy... Zara's and Vanessas's mother run away... Why? Is she run away from her husband because he is a bad man or is she who's bad? We only know that this city is full of drug dealers and other criminals. They together own a school... Why? Are they now legit or they use it for something... And it's from my perspective tough to say who's good and who's bad...

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well, we see many privileged people there and how they think they are too good for normal people. On the other hand I get only one vibe from Vanessa's father; creepy... Zara's and Vanessas's mother run away... Why? Is she run away from her husband because he is a bad man or is she who's bad? We only know that this city is full of drug dealers and other criminals. They together own a school... Why? Are they now legit or they use it for something... And it's from my perspective tough to say who's good and who's bad...

Nah, I think we're just used to AVN dads being creepy unless they're dead. It's a meme now. Also, people want to hate Nick because he's got one of the two amazing milfs. People lose their marbles because Noji supposedly should be a nun, even though she's clearly not Nika's biological mother (cue people arguing abstract biological conditions that occur in a blue moon to serve their milfcest fetish).

We have the fact that Zara's mother was abusive to her, not from Zara but from other people - so it's public awareness of Zara's mum being a shitty parent. It's not a good character reference. Zara AND Vanessa both staying with Nick when they're both quite strong and challenging personalities suggests creepy wouldn't cut it for long with them. Look how easily Zara reacts to Nika being supposedly creepy ripping her top...

Also, if Nick was being creepy like every MC dad in the AVNverse, he not be wasting time dating themilf with less screen time. He'd be singing about alabama, and Noji would not have a boyfriend.

But he might be perverted enough to hold Noji's hand, fiend that he is!

 

[fishbrain]

Maya "Maja" isn't a LI? What the fuck kind of cruelty is this!

 

[RNasc4444]

Well, we see many privileged people there and how they think they are too good for normal people. On the other hand I get only one vibe from Vanessa's father; creepy... Zara's and Vanessas's mother run away... Why? Is she run away from her husband because he is a bad man or is she who's bad? We only know that this city is full of drug dealers and other criminals. They together own a school... Why? Are they now legit or they use it for something... And it's from my perspective tough to say who's good and who's bad...

Man I don't agree on Nick being creepy. And if you pay attention to what Bella tells the MC in bed you can get a sense of how awful Zara and Vanessa's mother is.

The rest, spot on. We still don't know much but as of now it all points to ZPR being pretty much a shady criminal enterprise. We know what the Zanes are and how they came up with their money, influence and power. Not a stretch to assume the other 2 families have a shady aspect to them as well.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Maya "Maja" isn't a LI? What the fuck kind of cruelty is this!

At the start she was listed as a confirmed LI. THen Ocean decided she'd never go for someone who Vic was smitten with - Maja is loyal to Vic first, her own happiness second. But Ocean has said Maja's getting a scene in season 2, so..... maybe he's allowed her a chance at happiness? I'd imagine, you'd have to reject Vic's date while still promising you'll be there for her in the clinic, otherwise Maja just wouldn't trust Nika.

Only potential outcome I fear is that Ocean makes her a lewd scene and then she feels guilty for betraying Vic, and then she ghosts Nika

Right now we have no way of knowing.

 

[rudy007]

Nah, I think we're just used to AVN dads being creepy unless they're dead. It's a meme now. Also, people want to hate Nick because he's got one of the two amazing milfs. People lose their marbles because Noji supposedly should be a nun, even though she's clearly not Nika's biological mother (cue people arguing abstract biological conditions that occur in a blue moon to serve their milfcest fetish).

We have the fact that Zara's mother was abusive to her, not from Zara but from other people - so it's public awareness of Zara's mum being a shitty parent. It's not a good character reference. Zara AND Vanessa both staying with Nick when they're both quite strong and challenging personalities suggests creepy wouldn't cut it for long with them. Look how easily Zara reacts to Nika being supposedly creepy ripping her top...

Also, if Nick was being creepy like every MC dad in the AVNverse, he not be wasting time dating themilf with less screen time. He'd be singing about alabama, and Noji would not have a boyfriend.

But he might be perverted enough to hold Noji's hand, fiend that he is!

I'm little bit biased because I like Nojiko, but Nick's help is just too fast and too convenient. And at the right time. I just don't trust him.

On the other hand, dead husbands, fathers are just funny because it forces developers to think for more creative ways to move them away from the story... But you're right, dead husbands, fathers are a meme...

 

[BobTheDuck]

Man I don't agree on Nick being creepy. And if you pay attention to what Bella tells the MC in bed you can get a sense of how awful Zara and Vanessa's mother is.

The rest, spot on. We still don't know much but as of now it all points to ZPR being pretty much a shady criminal enterprise. We know what the Zanes are and how they came up with their money, influence and power. Not a stretch to assume the other 2 families have a shady aspect to them as well.

If the original plot of WiaB (regarding Elena and Donna) remains similar, yep, they're both shady. Also anti-Zane at that point. Willi must hav the most amazing pheromones to get thm to switch sides.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I'm little bit biased because I like Nojiko, but Nick's help is just too fast and too convenient. And at the right time. I just don't trust him.

On the other hand, dead husbands, fathers are just funny because it forces developers to think for more creative ways to move them away from the story... But you're right, dead husbands, fathers are a meme...

I mean what wholesome male role models are there in AVNs? Almost every male is a creep at some point, dad MC's are the worst, so we expect certain behaviours.

I think it'd be a great turn about if Nick was actually wholesome. What decent male characters are there in the story? I mean Jeff is almost wholesome, and Aziz and Dwight might end up being actually cool, but there's a lack of the older generation who are cool. Stahl with the epic pornstache?

Edit: Also rudy007 what if the long hours Noji has been 'doing' have been her doing Nick somewhere private from Nika and Nami? Some patients in AVN's get great housecall services. That's be the simplest explanation for why Noji 'works' so hard but isn't paid a lot.

He's been there from the start of the game, it's only that Noji has stopped hiding it. Nick's probably keen to stop being a secret lover.

 

[RNasc4444]

If the original plot of WiaB (regarding Elena and Donna) remains similar, yep, they're both shady. Also anti-Zane at that point. Willi must hav the most amazing pheromones to get thm to switch sides.

I mean if you fuck members of the other families and their progeny is yours as well, at some point it will make sense that they all band together into one big family. Hence, ZPR!

I'm assuming there is some truth to this theory mostly because of the "awkward" look Adrianna (who I assume is related to Ayua, cousin maybe?) and Sasha share during the book club after Jenna mentions everyone on the team getting backshots from William

 

[rudy007]

I mean what wholesome male role models are there in AVNs? Almost every male is a creep at some point, dad MC's are the worst, so we expect certain behaviours.

I think it'd be a great turn about if Nick was actually wholesome. What decent male characters are there in the story? I mean Jeff is almost wholesome, and Aziz and Dwight might end up being actually cool, but there's a lack of the older generation who are cool. Stahl with the epic pornstache?

Yeah, there aren't many good and honest men in all AVN's, but (too) many creeps... Not all MC's are good, there are many of them are creeps too.
Coach Stahl with his 70' porn mustache is just LoL... Fortunately there is always coach Hill nearby, so my eyes aren't distracted by him... Coach Hill is an eye candy...

 

[White cat6]

Man I don't agree on Nick being creepy. And if you pay attention to what Bella tells the MC in bed you can get a sense of how awful Zara and Vanessa's mother is.

The rest, spot on. We still don't know much but as of now it all points to ZPR being pretty much a shady criminal enterprise. We know what the Zanes are and how they came up with their money, influence and power. Not a stretch to assume the other 2 families have a shady aspect to them as well.

I am absolutely confident that SG is a game changer. And when Ocean reveals his cards, it turns out that Stefan is an absolutely decent person. Officer Cyril did the same. Melanie Cyril is an unhappy girl with a difficult fate. Zara's mother loves her daughter very much and tried to protect her, but Vanessa did not allow it. And trust less of what Bella says. She lies constantly.
And finally, Z in ZPR is Leia. There are no other Zayns there.

 

[vampires69'in]

Nah, I think we're just used to AVN dads being creepy unless they're dead. It's a meme now. Also, people want to hate Nick because he's got one of the two amazing milfs. People lose their marbles because Noji supposedly should be a nun, even though she's clearly not Nika's biological mother (cue people arguing abstract biological conditions that occur in a blue moon to serve their milfcest fetish).

We have the fact that Zara's mother was abusive to her, not from Zara but from other people - so it's public awareness of Zara's mum being a shitty parent. It's not a good character reference. Zara AND Vanessa both staying with Nick when they're both quite strong and challenging personalities suggests creepy wouldn't cut it for long with them. Look how easily Zara reacts to Nika being supposedly creepy ripping her top...

Also, if Nick was being creepy like every MC dad in the AVNverse, he not be wasting time dating themilf with less screen time. He'd be singing about alabama, and Noji would not have a boyfriend.

But he might be perverted enough to hold Noji's hand, fiend that he is!

I personally hope, he's as good a dude as he appears to be.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I mean if you fuck members of the other families and their progeny is yours as well, at some point it will make sense that they all band together into one big family. Hence, ZPR!

I'm assuming there is some truth to this theory mostly because of the "awkward" look Adrianna (who I assume is related to Ayua, cousin maybe?) and Sasha share during the book club after Jenna mentions everyone on the team getting backshots from William

Well in original Wiab, Donna got pregnant trying to incriminate Willi with rape at the orders of the evil people, who Elena worked as a prosecuting lawyer for, so there's always a chance even if the new story doesn't follow exactly, that the Revera is Ayua's cousin. Or
Ocean goes full NTR and Ayua is impregnated by Donna's brother resulting in Adrianna ...of course we have no idea to suspect that, but Ocean does like throwing curveballs.

 

[rudy007]

Well in original Wiab, Donna got pregnant trying to incriminate Willi with rape at the orders of the evil people, who Elena worked as a prosecuting lawyer for, so there's always a chance even if the new story doesn't follow exactly, that the Revera is Ayua's cousin. Or
Ocean goes full NTR and Ayua is impregnated by Donna's brother resulting in Adrianna ...of course we have no idea to suspect that, but Ocean does like throwing curveballs.

Having that "alternative" history really suck. It forces us to think that way. It's tough not to consider it in rework... Ocean knows that too and probably laugh his ass off...

 

[RNasc4444]

I am absolutely confident that SG is a game changer.

You have more faith in Ocean than I ever did or ever will. And I remain extremely confident that yours is misplaced. But to each his own.

And finally, Z in ZPR is Leia. There are no other Zayns there.

Your post is extremely confusing. Not sure what you mean by that. Leia is a pimp and a drug dealer and basically her entire family is complicit with her activities. They are all criminals.

Other than that, I would like to further engage with you and discuss stuff but it seems that we are playing very different games so any attempt at is would be pointless. Have a good day!

 

[fishbrain]

Hmm finally finished the latest.. so I guess Bella's sister is in a coma. I am going to assume it's somehow her fault or at least she blames herself otherwise I don't see why she would hold back talking about her after he shared about Summer. When I started last night I wondered if there were any answers to the mysteries we know so far.. Summer, Sasha's scar and Bella's sister so I guess we have a little more of the puzzle for one of them at least. Then finding out Sasha is into martial arts maybe explains the scar but I guess you never know.

At the start she was listed as a confirmed LI. THen Ocean decided she'd never go for someone who Vic was smitten with - Maja is loyal to Vic first, her own happiness second. But Ocean has said Maja's getting a scene in season 2, so..... maybe he's allowed her a chance at happiness? I'd imagine, you'd have to reject Vic's date while still promising you'll be there for her in the clinic, otherwise Maja just wouldn't trust Nika.

Only potential outcome I fear is that Ocean makes her a lewd scene and then she feels guilty for betraying Vic, and then she ghosts Nika

Right now we have no way of knowing.

What I know of Victoria she would be happy for anyone else's happiness. That said Maya could still have the attitude of "sisters before misters" in which case it doesn't matter. Hopefully that changes though, Maya is one of my favorites and I'm just not a fan of the balloon tits.

 

[alanrock]

Bella's sister, Issy as she will be called, was, I suppose, involved in a motorbike accident and went into a coma.
Man, I should co-write this story with Ocean. I am good at this.

 

[Enlightener]

Meanwhile, the number of patreons dropped to 1303, especially considering the large donors. What an amazing success for the steam release.

 

[Thepenguin92]

Is where it began almost done or is this double duty going to be ongoing for a while?