VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[im_here_4_content]

Hello everyone,
There is still dates of release for WIAB or SG?

 

[sauravk]

Any option to play the uncensored version on Android?

 

[BobTheDuck]

Hello everyone,
There is still dates of release for WIAB or SG?

We still don't have confirmed release dates, but the next devlog will hopefully give us some indication of how close we're getting. Ocean's still doing still renders for both games, and there are animations to deal with as well. In Wiab's case, there will be the steam hold ups.

Current (optimistic) guesses are March for Wiab and mid-year for SG. I strongly doubt anything this month.

 

[RNasc4444]

1. Nami sent the police after them, so it was something that was unsanctioned by adults, so no cars. Nika and Summer got to the cabin on their own steam as neither could drive. Also, a 15 year old can't go faster than a car for 6 hours on a bike. Even if the "old" home (do we know they moved, or is it just the decor and room we see of the "old house" an assumption?) was closer, it was in walking distance to the lake, which Nika can currently walk to and back before breakfast. Nami and Noji's confirmation of the cabin (Nami by calling Jane, Noji by asking if AMber really means that cabin) confirms Nika's story enough.

2. Can't be, because of the lake, currently a 15 min walk or thereabouts, which if they walked from their old house, they wouldn't walk further than an hour, especially as they talk about the beach being on the bus route, and the surfing thing with Zara, saying the beach is close... so at best the lake would be between the two houses, in walking distance from either, putting the cabin at least 5hrs 45min from the lake still.

3. Yes, this would be one way, but create the exact problem you describe.

4: A sensible solution - the cabin was simply where NIka and Summer ran away to and is only known to Nami and Noji after Jane finds them. But for Nika and Summer to run away jsut to have alone time before SUmmer's family vacation, they'd choose somewhere closer. 6 hours at 60km/hr by car (conservative, based on slow roads, mountains etc), 360km, which at 5km/hr hiking, would be 72 hours. I'm sure they could find somewhere for alone time closer. Take off maybe 2 hours most for the walking distance between the potential old home and the new one, we're still at 70hrs of hiking.

Here's my nice infographic. If the old house is further from the cabin than the current one, well, it's worse.

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I'm getting worried again bud... Remember to go outside yeah? And talk to real people

Anyways as much as I enjoy the discussion about driving/walking distances, time, portals and shapeshifting, what I really want is to know where I can find this:

I have a cat. I NEED this! Completely getting rid of scratches and cuts in a few hours with no scarring? Sign me the fuck up!!!

 

[LHDLLB]

I'm getting worried again bud... Remember to go outside yeah? And talk to real people

Anyways as much as I enjoy the discussion about driving/walking distances, time, portals and shapeshifting, what I really want is to know where I can find this:
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I have a cat. I NEED this! Completely getting rid of scratches and cuts in a few hours with no scarring? Sign me the fuck up!!!

Personally I want to know Nika's diet or the suplematation that he uses. My boy went from noodle harms to having a pack, even his jaw got more defined. The sprayhair also would be nice.

 

[Lurcher1]

I think you misunderstand what I meant - it is to do with the dream and what he tells Amber. From these we believe that Nika and Summer "walked" to the cabin, hence the six-hour drive conundrum. What if Nika has so far been an unreliable narrator and they did NOT simply walk to the cabin from their homes? Nika/Summer hiding out/going to somewhere so far away doesn't preclude Nami knowing the location.

To me, there is only three ways out of this conundrum:

1. Nika is an unreliable narrator and there is more to what we've been led to believe about "walking" to the cabin.

2. Nika/Nami/Nojiko previously living "out west" was actually some six hours drive from their current location. This presents it's own set of plotholes due to Nojiko's work (a six-hour commute?) and Schrödinger's lake - an interdimensional body of water that simultaneously exists in two locations six hours drive apart.

3. Ocean deletes the whole "six hour drive" reference from Season 1. I suspect he has a reason to make the distance so long (time-wise) because of what he has planned for the Amber/Nika cabin visit. For example (spitballing here), if, for some reason, Amber/Nika have to stay at a motel overnight on the trip, that's more plausible over a six-hour drive than a 30-minute drive.

I'd say there's a fourth way but it kind of links into the first point and is my own crazy theory (likely full of holes) - Nika and Summer were abducted and taken to the cabin. He's suppressed or altered his own memories to some point and remembers it as walking there. Something bad happened at the cabin (Nika stabbed and left for dead/last time he saw summer/etc) and Officer Laverne headed up the rescue mission. But to Nika, he remembers it as walking there and spending time with just Summer before she 'vanishes'. To me, Nami and Noji's reactions when they refer to things like the Violent Incident or are cagey when talking about how Summer vanished.

If even a fraction of that is close to the truth, the Amber visit could be quite a brutal piece of story telling if Ocean can pull it off

 

[Winterstale]

Personally I want to know Nika's diet or the suplematation that he uses. My boy went from noodle harms to having a pack, even his jaw got more defined. The sprayhair also would be nice.

Now seems like the perfect moment to drop in a quote: "Consistency is key. That's all there is"

 

[Ray_D]

Thats what happens when you work on two games at the same time...
I really hope that when Where it all Began releases on Steam, Ocean only focuses on Summer's Gone for the time being.

I think SG gets more than enough worked on. WIAB got completely dropped and fucked when SG was going on Steam.

I have to agree with Mr. helmet on this, the prequel should have more priority, to avoid future continuity problems in SG.

 

[LHDLLB]

I have to agree with Mr. helmet on this, the prequel should have more priority, to avoid future continuity problems in SG.

While it has true to that, I don't think of them as "prequel" or "Sequel" anymore as but two chapters of the same story. That at some point will come together.

 

[John972]

I'd say there's a fourth way but it kind of links into the first point and is my own crazy theory (likely full of holes) - Nika and Summer were abducted and taken to the cabin. He's suppressed or altered his own memories to some point and remembers it as walking there. Something bad happened at the cabin (Nika stabbed and left for dead/last time he saw summer/etc) and Officer Laverne headed up the rescue mission. But to Nika, he remembers it as walking there and spending time with just Summer before she 'vanishes'. To me, Nami and Noji's reactions when they refer to things like the Violent Incident or are cagey when talking about how Summer vanished.

If even a fraction of that is close to the truth, the Amber visit could be quite a brutal piece of story telling if Ocean can pull it off

Interesting theory! It's as valid as any other. I agree that Nika's memories, particularly in his dreams are not all they seem. At this point, "The Cabin Incident" (Nika/Summer at the cabin) and "The Violent Incident" (Nika requiring hospitalization for severe injury) are spoken about like they're two separate incidents.

The problem with any reveals during Amber therapy is that Nika already decided to bullshit Amber because (a) he was protecting Cheeto, and (b) he knows Bella reads Amber's clinical notes on his file and wants to mindfuck Bella. While Nika has apparently resolved to come clean on (a), we don't know if he will continue to BS because of (b). Added to that, we don't know exactly what BS Nika has told.

 

[Ray_D]

While it has true to that, I don't think of them as "prequel" or "Sequel" anymore as but two chapters of the same story. That at some point will come together.

All right, but don't complain when mad man ocean make another remake of SG because he need to fix the continuity errors...

 

[yossa999]

All right, but don't complain when mad man ocean make another remake of SG because he need to fix the continuity errors...

He doesn't need to prepare the first release on Steam, the graphics and plot in the first chapters correspond to the rest of the chapters of the first season. The money from the release has already been earned. I don't see any reason why he should change anything.

 

[Winterstale]

He doesn't need to prepare the first release on Steam, the graphics and plot in the first chapters correspond to the rest of the chapters of the first season. The money from the release has already been earned. I don't see any reason why he should change anything.

... all kidding aside, you are right

 

[NebulousShooter]

Do I even need to say it anymore?

 

[Mr_Mister]

1. Nami sent the police after them, so it was something that was unsanctioned by adults, so no cars. Nika and Summer got to the cabin on their own steam as neither could drive. Also, a 15 year old can't go faster than a car for 6 hours on a bike. Even if the "old" home (do we know they moved, or is it just the decor and room we see of the "old house" an assumption?) was closer, it was in walking distance to the lake, which Nika can currently walk to and back before breakfast. Nami and Noji's confirmation of the cabin (Nami by calling Jane, Noji by asking if AMber really means that cabin) confirms Nika's story enough.

2. Can't be, because of the lake, currently a 15 min walk or thereabouts, which if they walked from their old house, they wouldn't walk further than an hour, especially as they talk about the beach being on the bus route, and the surfing thing with Zara, saying the beach is close... so at best the lake would be between the two houses, in walking distance from either, putting the cabin at least 5hrs 45min from the lake still.

3. Yes, this would be one way, but create the exact problem you describe.

4: A sensible solution - the cabin was simply where NIka and Summer ran away to and is only known to Nami and Noji after Jane finds them. But for Nika and Summer to run away jsut to have alone time before SUmmer's family vacation, they'd choose somewhere closer. 6 hours at 60km/hr by car (conservative, based on slow roads, mountains etc), 360km, which at 5km/hr hiking, would be 72 hours. I'm sure they could find somewhere for alone time closer. Take off maybe 2 hours most for the walking distance between the potential old home and the new one, we're still at 70hrs of hiking.

Here's my nice infographic. If the old house is further from the cabin than the current one, well, it's worse.

View attachment 4432790

So 5:



This is the most likely answer, nailed it!

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Nika's Raziel. There's a chronoplast to solve pesky time issues as well as the Elder God, and there's the legacy of his predecessor to work out.

 

[TheDuke9999]

i heard a rumor that summers gone and Wiab are both coming out next week

 

[LHDLLB]

i heard a rumor that summers gone and Wiab are both coming out next week

I guess a man can always dream.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Hello,

We will continue as usual while we all wait for Steam to finish its review.
Epic Games has approved SG, and I'm also working with GoG to get the page up and running.
As soon as Steam is done reviewing, there will be one announcement log of the S1 release date.
But from now on, all Dev Logs are about Season 2.

To bring back some structure, Bi-Weekly dev logs are back.
You can check out the previous S2 Logs by clicking the "Season 2" tag.
I will repeat some info about Season 2 and a few new things here.
Season 2 ports over your save from your last Season 1 playthrough. (I'm still looking for a way to port different playthroughs simultaneously from S1 to S2.)

Graphical changes from Season 1 to Season 2.
Season 2 will be in 4k. (I already render everything in 4k. It doesn't add work, and you don't need a 4k display to see the difference.)
My friend Messe, UI designer for SG, has also created the new UI, etc., for Season 2.
The main menu

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The Gallery
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Load/Save
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Options

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It has a very clean and fantastic look. The theme of the main menu can also be changed.
This one up there is the "Glacial" theme.
I've been talking about Blender Short Stories for a while now but just didn't have the time in the past. However, with Season 2, the short stories will become a reality.
Messe was so nice in creating the UI for them, too.
These are just examples of how it would look. (The short stories have their own exe.)


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In my opinion, it's just absolutely beautiful.
I will showcase more of his work at different points. But his work elevates the game's UI tremendously.
I mentioned that I'd be signing some new music soon. Sadly one Artist jumped ship with the usual: "Upon further review of your product I am going to decline on having my music in the game."
His loss.

But I still scored some very nice ambient music.
Season 2 Previews (4k attached.)
Some Nadia.

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Season 2 is going to be great, and no more reworks to slow me down.
Hopefully, you'll hear from me soon about the Steam release date.

Ocean

Did Ocean ever linked the guy that made him the S2 GUI? I want to see some other works, because I have to say, its probably the most impressive one I've seen in a renpy game.

Also seeing the steam wallpapers, why are the fucking tertiary characters, like the book club milfs and random background props so much better looking than the main cast?

 

[John972]

I have being defending the idea of Eldritch God beneath Wollust. Bodies changing size overnight ? Eldritch God. Time dilation lake ? Eldritch God. He feeds of sexual energy and is starving because Nika can't fuck anybody.

1. Nami sent the police after them, so it was something that was unsanctioned by adults, so no cars. Nika and Summer got to the cabin on their own steam as neither could drive. Also, a 15 year old can't go faster than a car for 6 hours on a bike. Even if the "old" home (do we know they moved, or is it just the decor and room we see of the "old house" an assumption?) was closer, it was in walking distance to the lake, which Nika can currently walk to and back before breakfast. Nami and Noji's confirmation of the cabin (Nami by calling Jane, Noji by asking if AMber really means that cabin) confirms Nika's story enough.

2. Can't be, because of the lake, currently a 15 min walk or thereabouts, which if they walked from their old house, they wouldn't walk further than an hour, especially as they talk about the beach being on the bus route, and the surfing thing with Zara, saying the beach is close... so at best the lake would be between the two houses, in walking distance from either, putting the cabin at least 5hrs 45min from the lake still.

3. Yes, this would be one way, but create the exact problem you describe.

4: A sensible solution - the cabin was simply where NIka and Summer ran away to and is only known to Nami and Noji after Jane finds them. But for Nika and Summer to run away jsut to have alone time before SUmmer's family vacation, they'd choose somewhere closer. 6 hours at 60km/hr by car (conservative, based on slow roads, mountains etc), 360km, which at 5km/hr hiking, would be 72 hours. I'm sure they could find somewhere for alone time closer. Take off maybe 2 hours most for the walking distance between the potential old home and the new one, we're still at 70hrs of hiking.

Here's my nice infographic. If the old house is further from the cabin than the current one, well, it's worse.

View attachment 4432790

So 5:



This is the most likely answer, nailed it!

View attachment 4432602

Nika's Raziel. There's a chronoplast to solve pesky time issues as well as the Elder God, and there's the legacy of his predecessor to work out.

You leave Ocean no choice but to add another forest and a lake six hours away. First the workstation, now this... Expenses, expenses...

I'm getting worried again bud... Remember to go outside yeah? And talk to real people

Anyways as much as I enjoy the discussion about driving/walking distances, time, portals and shapeshifting, what I really want is to know where I can find this:
View attachment 4433615
I have a cat. I NEED this! Completely getting rid of scratches and cuts in a few hours with no scarring? Sign me the fuck up!!!

Now seems like the perfect moment to drop in a quote: "Consistency is key. That's all there is"

There are some things in SG I wish Ocean had the writing experience to deftly "hang a lantern on it" (i.e. a method of acknowledging minor implausibilities in-game to allow a player to move on), since several implausibilities are devices to move a particular scene along - nothing more, nothing less. For example, this would work with the magic wound spray scene.

Other things, such as the character/boob/body type shape-shifting between scenes cannot be fixed outside of reworking ALL of the remaining legacy parts of Season 1 (which is bittersweet for me because I adore the version of Mila that debuts in-game at ZPR).

There is one area that Ocean needs to be absolutely sharp as a tack on - the mysteries surrounding Summer's disappearance and Nika's past. There is simply no room for error and/or inconsistency there because Ocean chooses to make the slow unraveling of these mysteries a central tenet of the SG plot (at least in the first couple of seasons). Players will pick up on inconsistencies and the longer they remain in the game, the harder they are to fix retroactively. Wollust logic will not be good enough.

I really enjoy SG for the character development, feels, and atmospherics, so I am happy to put up with a certain amount of Wollust logic. However, if the mysteries of the past story arcs turn out to be badly riddled with plot holes, SG will lose credibility with me. At this stage, I continue to trust that Ocean is on top of it...

 

[LHDLLB]

There are some things in SG I wish Ocean had the writing experience to deftly "hang a lantern on it" (i.e. a method of acknowledging minor implausibilities in-game to allow a player to move on), since several implausibilities are devices to move a particular scene along - nothing more, nothing less. For example, this would work with the magic wound spray scene.

Other things, such as the character/boob/body type shape-shifting between scenes cannot be fixed outside of reworking ALL of the remaining legacy parts of Season 1 (which is bittersweet for me because I adore the version of Mila that debuts in-game at ZPR).

There is one area that Ocean needs to be absolutely sharp as a tack on - the mysteries surrounding Summer's disappearance and Nika's past. There is simply no room for error and/or inconsistency there because Ocean chooses to make the slow unraveling of these mysteries a central tenet of the SG plot (at least in the first couple of seasons). Players will pick up on inconsistencies and the longer they remain in the game, the harder they are to fix retroactively. Wollust logic will not be good enough.

I really enjoy SG for the character development, feels, and atmospherics, so I am happy to put up with a certain amount of Wollust logic. However, if the mysteries of the past story arcs turn out to be badly riddled with plot holes, SG will lose credibility with me. At this stage, I continue to trust that Ocean is on top of it...

I fully agree. Summers plot can absolutely ruin this story and I hope Ocean cooked something good. He also has a real talent to write characters, that is not a easy thing.