Yourmom21

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I think people are way to liberal with the words like sociopath these days, and the worst is taht they dont even know what it his but they thow it randomly at everyone who acts antisocial or something. First of all neither Bella or MC are sociopaths, neither of them are egocentric ( Bella is a bit full of herself but what pretty girl isint nowadays? ), Bella clearly cares about her social circle mom, aunt, friends she isint " manipulating " them the only sociopathic trait Bella exibits is impulsive. As for the MC if you played until chapter 4 he clearly cares about his family (Noji and Nami) and Bella and he warms up to Jeff, he become anti social and hostil to others because of what happend to Summer it wasent inherently in his character this is a result of a trauma and not sociopathy. If mc was realy a sociopath he wouldnt had regreted pushing Bella to talk about her sister, yes sociopaths can feel regret and empathy but this dosent stop them from keep doing bad things to achieve their goals. MC is a dirty bastard and Bella is an ass but none of them are sociopaths lol.
 

576dev

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Great update! Blown away by the quality - scenes, animation, script, soundtrack, etc. I wonder if Ocean is using run of the mill Daz3D or something much more professional. The DnD scenes almost looked like it came out of a top tier game studio with access to stuff most regular VN developers don't.
 
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Everilld

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Awesome update, can't wait to see what future holds. Update was so good that I actually started playing game from beggining :D
One question maybe someone will be able to to answer me
Why is Ocean working at 2 games at the same time? SG and WIAB
 

KhamulTG81

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Awesome update, can't wait to see what future holds. Update was so good that I actually started playing game from beggining :D
One question maybe someone will be able to to answer me
Why is Ocean working at 2 games at the same time? SG and WIAB
Long story short... At first he wasn't working on two games, hence 2 patreon accounts. Shit happened, the one who developed on of the games left and Ocean took over. To maintain the Integrity of this chared universe he will not abandon any of those 2 games. So he will, until he finds some trusted individual (speculation), develop both games alone.
 
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everhardninja

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Why would you need a walkthrough?
The choices are pretty much on WVM level.
Being nice and get some s*x.
Or being not nice and no s*x.
I'm sure that all of us must have 90% of similar choices with the exception of do you go with Bella at night and who goes with you to the gym.
Clearly someone hasn't played the route where u have a threesome with both Nami and Bella
 

seniorboop

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Finally tried out the VN, played to completion

+ Minus Ch 1 (Terrible, painfully edgy) the hype about the storytelling is warranted.
+ Extremely high render quality
+ Best looking LIs ive seen in any VN which is funny for a VN with no adult content
+ Great cinematography/presentation
+ Above average MC although I still think his Uchiha clan hairstyle is goofy as hell, how Bella considers that an upgrade lord knows
+ Nami & Bella are great characters, if remaining LIs are fleshed out just as well the VN could have a great cast
- Way too many LIs means a majority will get the short end of the stick most updates, Ala Victoria
- Extremely unnecessary animations, lots of wasted effort
- Tabletop session could have its content cut by 90% and be just as effective

Although im typically not a fan of non-lewd VNs I knew what I was getting myself into and will judge it based on that.

Id give it about 8/10, 1 point off for the extremely long update cycles. Hate to be that guy, but regardless how much im impressed by this VN I have a feeling its unlikely to ever finish at the rate its going so ill keep 1 foot out.

Final LI plug: Mila #1, Bella #2
 

bobbo69

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I find the redone renders on chapter 1 not as good as the old ones, Nami and what's her name, the Asian chic looks way better on the old version. There's a bug in this, I didn't get Bella meet, but the game considers that I have, I'm not using a mod or anything.
 

Mahakmar

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good thing the game is going forward, i just wish after the 3.5 cliffhanger i could go even more extreme as the persons leaving you hanging never approach or interact with the mc , looking forward to where the game plays out vs all the various directions the mc getting pulled as sadly i find some avenues is like i really dont wont to explore where we go
 

G27111

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I find the redone renders on chapter 1 not as good as the old ones, Nami and what's her name, the Asian chic looks way better on the old version. There's a bug in this, I didn't get Bella meet, but the game considers that I have, I'm not using a mod or anything.
pretty sure the changes to chapter 1 are not even on it yet, it was supposed to be after the beta.. unless he changed it last minute
 

Carefree247

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Is there a harem path now?
Ocean has come out and said there will only be a throuple (2 girls)
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I don't know you guys but I think Vanessa is a psychopath.
I'm pretty sure we're missing some info just like how we went and thought bad of Zara and Nadia in ch 3.5 which later changed with the release of ch 4 for most of us. I'll wait and see what future updates reveal, but so far I find she's smarter than what I heard of her and she cannot be trusted for now.

MC and Bella are just crazy weirdos with a painful past. But that girl, she's a real fucking evil mastermind. I bet my ass that she's using Mario for her own benefits.
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what a strange thing to bet, are you sure your not secretly jealous of him and in love with Mistress Vanessa ?

i know why you all like bella and i personally like bella too but why, just why i cant see anyone talking about victoria oh my fucking god she's fricking perfect like she's the one that make your dark life have a light
She's too agreeable to a fault and hides her insecurities which most likely is to not burden ppl and something else, not much to talk about her as we had little development in was it ch 2 or 3 and the fan base was gushing for her and then we went to explore more of the cast.

Someone pointed out all the connections from Where It All Began already present in game?
Cuz I have found some.
we did way back(search the forums) but stopped as WIAB is being reworked and things have changed sometime 2020 when Ocean changed the setting to a less darker than he initially intended it to, make me curious what his original idea were and what could have happened.
As of this update we are worried about Leah and what might have happened to her to leave pieces of the earing and her absence from ZPR where Katie works as chief designer or something.
 

DarkOs31

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An interaction with a psychopath could be exploitive and there's a high probability you'd get hurt by the end of it.

No. She strikes me as a person who is a highly intelligent and capable woman, who is bored with her surroundings. I wouldn't call myself a highly intelligent person, but man, people can bore me to death in many ways, only they know how!

None of them are psychopaths. MC is a manipulative arsehole all right, but he DOES care about them he is close to, and his actions kinda balance out the good and evil aspects of a human being. And Bella isn't manipulative at all.

I've played WVM. Not a fan! Quit that shit a long time ago. All these diverse group of LIs are like made in a lab over a week and programmed to reach this cisgender male MC and hook up!

Yeah, it's a woke crap. Not my taste.

I take it you didn't throw that ball at her head. If you did, you would understand.

It's amusing to me how you guys toss these words around like it's that easy. Nothing about someone who'd fit those categories is easy.
I'm with you about psychopath,none of them are ;)
As I am a bipolar person with mania-depression + ultra rapid cycles,the MC is really well written...
Guys like him don't work like your usual depressive guys,i know most of you are calling the MC a whimp,but you guys are wrong...
It is the opposite ;)
Guys like the MC are always weary about people who surround them...
We observe them like for months until we think they are trustworthy...
No one can change this ...
I'ts impossible to just fall in love at first sight,i'm glad the dev made him like this...
Yes we can fall in love,but we are always cautious,thats why i completely understand MC's behavior ;)
 

The Bush Diver

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One question: Does Mrs. Hill have silicone breasts? That biatch from the first team called her Miss silicone or something, right?

Thoughts?

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Whatever the case, I like her!
 
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bigpenniser

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Amazing game, like I actually liked reading through it, but quite honestly getting to the end it still feels pretty meh for THREE YEARS
 
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