Tairnel

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Pls multiquote your messages you can just click quote and select insert quotes
I know how to multiquote. I was only replying to that guy’s comment which is why I did not multi quote.
If you check all my posts are replying to different topics so there’s no point in multi quoting.
 

Tairnel

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Chapter 4 Final Bibi-log 2/1

Hello,

It wasn't planned to do a second Bibi Log to tell people what's up with the final... But I underestimated Daz's scene opening times.

So, I'm currently 390/600 rendered images into the Final.
As you can clearly see, shit slowed down.

Many that have been following me for quite some time, might know that Daz has some atrocious loading times. (It loads all the morphs up for every character.)

On top of that... I had some problems building the outside of the college. There weren't any suitable assets and I had to improvise. That took a while.

But to give something back, I have some new comparisons and one simple Chapter 4 preview. (High Res for download at the bottom.)
Now I customized quite a lot and I have a clear vision of what I want to go for. s, a very big environment.

We start with the evening scenes after visiting Victoria.

Old
View attachment 1895082 View attachment 1895080

The new one more or less still follows the same routine... But has a different atmosphere. Dialogue also got adjusted.

New
View attachment 1895081 View attachment 1895093

The early college parts are probably the biggest issue the game had.

Old
View attachment 1895086 View attachment 1895083

As you can see... You see nothing. Regium had a 1070 and I had a 1060 at that time... None of us could put some actual people there... Nor did we have the experience.


Now I customized quite a lot o stuff and I have a clear vision of what I want to go for.

New
View attachment 1895084 View attachment 1895085

The biggest issue was that it all felt so empty. No immersion whatsoever... But we simply didn't have the computing power.

And my 3090s failed me more than once rendering those scenes. But that's not even the biggest issue these scenes cause.

It's the unbearable screen freezes and lags that come with a gigantic scene like that. Tons of visible and hidden characters and this results in a scene that has like 2FPS and screen freezes that take up to 20 seconds.

But that's sadly Daz... It's not optimized to support these heavy scenes.

Old
View attachment 1895091 View attachment 1895087

The biggest issue here... Old Ayua.

Like what the fuck... God, did I hate this model.

New
View attachment 1895099
View attachment 1895090

The new version now features the current Ayua model with her Ch2/Ch3 hair. (It's her changing the hair. Not me.)

So yeah, I just wanted to update you guys that it might take a week or two longer... It takes like 40-90min to open a scene. (Depends on the characters.)
And I put 30 renders into the queue and woke up to 5 images being rendered...

To end this little bibi log... Here's a first Ch4 preview of Mila.

View attachment 1895092

- Ocean
Cheers mate! Came here for this, but I’m still pleasantly surprised at the speed of the upload.
 

Tairnel

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sad that the final version will take more time.
also last time someone made imgur folder for chapter 4 previews(it had last year patreon wallpapers too idk why),
so here's chapter4x5 previews folder I'll keep updating it
I just ripped all the pictures present in the dev/ bibi logs while making the album... That might be why it had wallpapers too
 

Quarron

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sad that the final version will take more time.
also last time someone made imgur folder for chapter 4 previews(it had last year patreon wallpapers too idk why),
so here's chapter4x5 previews folder I'll keep updating it
Isn't the preview belongs to chapter 4 instead of 4.5? In the bibilog it's says this preview belongs to chapter 4
 

Nekiorem

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Isn't the preview belongs to chapter 4 instead of 4.5? In the bibilog it's says this preview belongs to chapter 4
first preview and the night is supposed to start in the next chapter. MC is talking to Mila. idk if that's a mistake or he's referring it as a whole chapter 4 (next 5) not counting 4.5 (numerically next chapter is 4.5) :unsure:
I just ripped all the pictures present in the dev/ bibi logs while making the album... That might be why it had wallpapers too
Sasha presence anywhere anyhow no issues :HideThePain:
 
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Quarron

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first preview and the night is supposed to start in the next chapter. MC is talking to Mila. idk if that's a mistake or he's referring it as a whole chapter 4 (next 5) not counting 4.5 (numerically next chapter is 4.5) :unsure:
I think he meant full ch 4, not 4.5.
 

Cabin Fever

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Chapter 4 Final Bibi-log 2/1

Hello,

It wasn't planned to do a second Bibi Log to tell people what's up with the final... But I underestimated Daz's scene opening times.

So, I'm currently 390/600 rendered images into the Final.
As you can clearly see, shit slowed down.

Many that have been following me for quite some time, might know that Daz has some atrocious loading times. (It loads all the morphs up for every character.)

On top of that... I had some problems building the outside of the college. There weren't any suitable assets and I had to improvise. That took a while.

But to give something back, I have some new comparisons and one simple Chapter 4 preview. (High Res for download at the bottom.)
Now I customized quite a lot and I have a clear vision of what I want to go for. s, a very big environment.

We start with the evening scenes after visiting Victoria.

Old
View attachment 1895082 View attachment 1895080

The new one more or less still follows the same routine... But has a different atmosphere. Dialogue also got adjusted.

New
View attachment 1895081 View attachment 1895093

The early college parts are probably the biggest issue the game had.

Old
View attachment 1895086 View attachment 1895083

As you can see... You see nothing. Regium had a 1070 and I had a 1060 at that time... None of us could put some actual people there... Nor did we have the experience.


Now I customized quite a lot o stuff and I have a clear vision of what I want to go for.

New
View attachment 1895084 View attachment 1895085

The biggest issue was that it all felt so empty. No immersion whatsoever... But we simply didn't have the computing power.

And my 3090s failed me more than once rendering those scenes. But that's not even the biggest issue these scenes cause.

It's the unbearable screen freezes and lags that come with a gigantic scene like that. Tons of visible and hidden characters and this results in a scene that has like 2FPS and screen freezes that take up to 20 seconds.

But that's sadly Daz... It's not optimized to support these heavy scenes.

Old
View attachment 1895091 View attachment 1895087

The biggest issue here... Old Ayua.

Like what the fuck... God, did I hate this model.

New
View attachment 1895099
View attachment 1895090

The new version now features the current Ayua model with her Ch2/Ch3 hair. (It's her changing the hair. Not me.)

So yeah, I just wanted to update you guys that it might take a week or two longer... It takes like 40-90min to open a scene. (Depends on the characters.)
And I put 30 renders into the queue and woke up to 5 images being rendered...

To end this little bibi log... Here's a first Ch4 preview of Mila.

View attachment 1895092

- Ocean
Is it just me or did Mila just got even cuter?


first preview and the night is supposed to start in the next chapter. MC is talking to Mila. idk if that's a mistake or he's referring it as a whole chapter 4 (next 5) not counting 4.5 (numerically next chapter is 4.5) :unsure:

Sasha presence anywhere anyhow no issues :HideThePain:
The "night" scene is the old vs reworked Ch1. You can even find the old pics in the current beta.

I' m quite sure the new Mila pic is part of the "missing" Ch4 beta pics.
 
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Why does daz give he so many problems? is it the program itself or the lack of memory on the 3090? other devs like Pink cake also use daz? is it maybe the fact of demanding such detailed scenes that puts the equipment in a tight spot? lack of a processor that runs the directories faster?

I have looked at him patreon out of curiosity and it says that with 2500 patrons he would acquire a render station, what exactly does that consist of and how would it improve the workflow?
 
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Summer converted into a religious fundamentalist and became such a prude that MC had to 'turn off' his sexuality to simp for her. Then, her parents forced her to leave to join a cult, and a short time later everyone at the cult compound was somehow killed by Emperor Palpatine, leaving the solo MC as an emo virgin castout.
 
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Why does daz give he so many problems? is it the program itself or the lack of memory on the 3090? other devs like Pink cake also use daz? is it maybe the fact of demanding such detailed scenes that puts the equipment in a tight spot? lack of a processor that runs the directories faster?

I have looked at him patreon out of curiosity and it says that with 2500 patrons he would acquire a render station, what exactly does that consist of and how would it improve the workflow?
I'm no expert on Daz & Blender, so Ocean can probably chime in and give the specifics, but I imagine it's because of the numbers of character models Ocean puts in his scenes - he tries to make the scenes as realistic as possible and in the college setting he's got going, you're going to have a lot of detailed models if you're going for realism and it sounds like DAZ struggles with that.

A render station would likely consist of a pair of A6000 (or newer by the time he could get one) render cards that have 48GB per card with an NVLINK connection - this would allow the cards to pair and the rendering engine would see the two GPUs and their memory as one big 96GB card allowing a shit-ton more of rendering power and frame buffer for all the detailed models and textures Ocean wants to be able to render. I personally hope he's able to acquire this as soon as possible.
 
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