VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Frowster]

Okay, I think I can debunk the theory that Summer vanished because she fell victim to a violent attack at the cabin:

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Now, the MC does indeed sustain injuries consistent with a violent fight - which Nami confirms at the hospital by referring to it as "the violent incident" - but we are not given any indication as to the time or place it happened. For all we know it happened in one of the uneven fights he lost at school, and as he tells Amber during his second session, he did lose more than once to multiple opponents.

 

[Turret]

Okay, I think I can debunk the theory that Summer vanished because she fell victim to a violent attack at the cabin:

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Now, the MC does indeed sustain injuries consistent with a violent fight - which Nami confirms at the hospital by referring to it as "the violent incident" - but we are not given any indication as to the time or place it happened. For all we know it happened in one of the uneven fights he lost at school, and as he tells Amber during his second session, he did lose more than once to multiple opponents.

I still see Summer´s vanishing connected with the trip to the cabin, him seeing her one last time (see the slightly odd phrasing) and the MC landing in the ICU. The way these flashbacks were shown hint towards Nika being seriously hurt during Summer´s vanishing and him being helpless to stop it.
The fights at school thereafter were always matter of fact recounts, some won, some lost, several even to being ganged up upon. But never there was any mention of major damage incurred at school.

 

[Ottoeight]

I still see Summer´s vanishing connected with the trip to the cabin, him seeing her one last time (see the slightly odd phrasing) and the MC landing in the ICU. The way these flashbacks were shown hint towards Nika being seriously hurt during Summer´s vanishing and him being helpless to stop it.
The fights at school thereafter were always matter of fact recounts, some won, some lost, several even to being ganged up upon. But never there was any mention of major damage incurred at school.

There isn't a single time in the whole story where MC claims or tells himself that he feels guilty of or to blame for Summer's disappearance. Not even once. If you were right, MC wouldn't have stopped blaming himself.

How about leaving off this theory of yours?

 

[Turret]

There isn't a single time in the whole story where MC claims or tells himself that he feels guilty of or to blame for Summer's disappearance. Not even once. If you were right, MC wouldn't have stopped blaming himself.

How about leaving off this theory of yours?

Well, I never stated he feels guilty, but he felt helpless which is quite clear how he talks with Nami or Amber about Summer. And he wants to feel normal again, which he told Nami before he went to te date with Bella.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Is that still a thing? From reading the older posts in this thread I know that originally Summer and the MC were doing something fishy in the cabin and the police turned up, but since the rework that's not in the game. The worst they get up to is attempted bloodsport involving spiders. Other than that they just fool around and kiss, and then we see the psychedelic dream with the flowers. Or am I forgetting something?

My interpretation of the current hospital flashback with a bloodied MC was that he attempted self-harm after Summer's disappearance. It would explain why Nami is always so keen to keep an eye on him.

I don't see the self-harm at all. The following is all we have about that incident so far, in the flashback while the MC is waiting for Vic to return to her room at the hospital:







Both lungs collapsed - that's major trauma and potential loss of oxygen to the brain. We don't know if he tried to save Summer and was badly injured doing it or if she was attacked and taken and he barely escaped with his life.

We don't know how Bella's Sister disappeared or how Sasha got the mark on her face (perhaps related or not - insufficient information available at this time).

The trip to the cabin with Amber and the MC will lead to pivotal reveals. Imagine if Amber discovers that the MC recalls information that matches a vehicle or other details that are part of the police investigation notes from her daughter's death/disappearance.

The story is an onion here and who knows how many more layers have to be peeled away before getting to the truth.

This is part of what makes Summers Gone such a compelling story for me!

 

[Razrback16]

We don't know how Bella's Sister disappeared or how Sasha got the mark on her face (perhaps related or not - insufficient information available at this time).

The trip to the cabin with Amber and the MC will lead to pivotal reveals. Imagine if Amber discovers that the MC recalls information that matches a vehicle or other details that are part of the police investigation notes from her daughter's death/disappearance.

I'm with ya - I've wondered for a bit if all of it will be related and this may be something Amber and MC find they have in common - and with WIAB's story involving gangs, etc. in the area, can't help but wonder if it's like a sex trafficking ring or something involved in these situations.

 

[Arch12]

Well, I never stated he feels guilty, but he felt helpless which is quite clear how he talks with Nami or Amber about Summer. And he wants to feel normal again, which he told Nami before he went to te date with Bella.

He was depressed, She disappeared without any warning. Everything after was him dealing with it and the depression after. Not being social, getting into fights just to "feel alive". He felt like his reason to live just up and left him with no word.

Again, The way Elsa acted around him when they met is not the way someone who was friends with you and was your GFs cousin would act seeing each other for the first time if Summer died. She would act more upset because it would look like he was the one who disappeared.

The fact she never tried to contact him or Nami afterwards either, Its beyond weird. Plus the foreshadowing setup for the MC wanting to join Aurora to "See people he lost contact with" and Mila immediately mention Summer, If thats not setting up for her to return later.

 

[Frowster]

I don't see the self-harm at all. The following is all we have about that incident so far, in the flashback while the MC is waiting for Vic to return to her room at the hospital:
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Both lungs collapsed - that's major trauma and potential loss of oxygen to the brain. We don't know if he tried to save Summer and was badly injured doing it or if she was attacked and taken and he barely escaped with his life.

Yes, I can now see that it clearly wasn't self-harm. Heh, I remembered the shot of his bloody arm and assumed he had tried cutting his wrists, but I somehow forgot about the collapsed lungs line (which totally doesn't match up with self-harm) and the fact that Nami talks about a "violent incident".

It's interesting that there was never any mention of a criminal investigation - which would definitely happen in case of attempted murder, grievous bodily harm and a young girl disappearing. I suppose that an investigation did take place but the case was unsolved and dropped, the MC pushed the whole incident out of his memory and Nojiko/Nami never bring it up so as not to open up old wounds.

The second session with Amber also shows that even though the scene with the police arriving at the cabin was cut, it's still canon as the MC mentions an officer by name.I would assume that a cop who finds two kids out in the woods after dark would take them back home. If so, the incident must have taken place at another time and place.
Or maybe the officer knew them personally and left them there after seeing they're fine and then something went down. But that's something he/she definitely wouldn't do if Razrback's suggestion about organized criminal groups known to be active in the area is right.

Welp, I'm really looking forward to that cabin trip with Amber!

 

[Tokenugget]

Yeah, you can definitely tell from looking into her digital rendered eyeballs. The pain, the suffering, the whole "made up" part of it all!


Ha, Ha ha ha!
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Dude, this guy got engrossed in the story and the beautiful renders. And you're mocking him for that? Way to be a Pathetic human and mock others..

Anyway, i also love how the dev made Bella's eyes kinda sad. She's a lovely character.

 

[Lurcher1]

The fact she never tried to contact him or Nami afterwards either, Its beyond weird. Plus the foreshadowing setup for the MC wanting to join Aurora to "See people he lost contact with" and Mila immediately mention Summer, If thats not setting up for her to return later.

Ocean has stated several times that Summer really has "gone" and won't be making an appearance beyond flashbacks.

 

[Lurcher1]

Yes, I can now see that it clearly wasn't self-harm. Heh, I remembered the shot of his bloody arm and assumed he had tried cutting his wrists, but I somehow forgot about the collapsed lungs line (which totally doesn't match up with self-harm) and the fact that Nami talks about a "violent incident".

It's interesting that there was never any mention of a criminal investigation - which would definitely happen in case of attempted murder, grievous bodily harm and a young girl disappearing. I suppose that an investigation did take place but the case was unsolved and dropped, the MC pushed the whole incident out of his memory and Nojiko/Nami never bring it up so as not to open up old wounds.

The second session with Amber also shows that even though the scene with the police arriving at the cabin was cut, it's still canon as the MC mentions an officer by name.I would assume that a cop who finds two kids out in the woods after dark would take them back home. If so, the incident must have taken place at another time and place.
Or maybe the officer knew them personally and left them there after seeing they're fine and then something went down. But that's something he/she definitely wouldn't do if Razrback's suggestion about organized criminal groups known to be active in the area is right.

Welp, I'm really looking forward to that cabin trip with Amber!

The story is an onion here and who knows how many more layers have to be peeled away before getting to the truth.

This is part of what makes Summers Gone such a compelling story for me!

Yeah, that slash down the MC's arm looks like some sort defensive wound.

I think we need to remember that the story and its elements are resolving from the MC's perspective. He's probably suppressed a lot of memories about what happened. When asked by Amber he starts to panic as he begins to look through his memories. I reckon that as the story goes on, we'll get more reveals and perspectives and I wonder if Amber will start pulling out old newspaper articles and police reports? I can see a missing persons or abduction case have a lot of press at the time. Onion peeling is definitely what's happening here...

 

[Deleted member 327695]

Ocean has stated several times that Summer really has "gone" and won't be making an appearance beyond flashbacks.

When did I say that? >.>

I would never make such a gigantic claim this early into the game. (Or in general, as it would be a gigantic spoiler.)

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

When did I say that? >.>

I would never make such a gigantic claim this early into the game. (Or in general, as it would be a gigantic spoiler.)

hey ocean happy New Year how are you feeling

 

[D3xzalias]

Ocean has stated several times that Summer really has "gone" and won't be making an appearance beyond flashbacks.

That's a really brave statement

 

[Uriel ☁]

When did I say that? >.>

I would never make such a gigantic claim this early into the game. (Or in general, as it would be a gigantic spoiler.)

Nah mate, you probably weren't there when Ocean said it.

 

[Lurcher1]

When did I say that? >.>

I would never make such a gigantic claim this early into the game. (Or in general, as it would be a gigantic spoiler.)

I stand utterly corrected! I swore I saw a few posts like that on Discord, apologies

 

[imadumb]

When did I say that? >.>

I would never make such a gigantic claim this early into the game. (Or in general, as it would be a gigantic spoiler.)

Please don't let Summer be gone x.x

 

[NebulousShooter]

Ocean has stated several times that Summer really has "gone" and won't be making an appearance beyond flashbacks.

I was catching up reading on the thread and already hit quote before seeing that the dev responded, but I'll leave it here anyway. Even if lets say he initially intended for her to be just a plot device, even if now the reunion is the endgame, an author will never admit, or deny such a thing in a million years.

Please don't let Summer be gone x.x

She gone, bro.

 

[locomarinazon]

Was the issue with Mila's body shape after the rework fixed in 4.5 or is it still on uncanny valley?

 

[AchedCroissant]

When did I say that? >.>

I would never make such a gigantic claim this early into the game. (Or in general, as it would be a gigantic spoiler.)

OCEAN TELL ME IF SUMMER WILL COME BACK AND FUCK UP MY RELATIONSHIP WITH BELLA

OCEAAAAN!!!!!