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I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree in the most radical manner possible. I think Summer's return would be the single biggest undermining of this story possible. If the story is about healing and overcoming trauma, deleting the source of that trauma would nullify everything it seeks to accomplish in my perspective. But then again maybe there will be enough twists and turns to salvage it even with her return.

Either way as it stands, for the sake of the story and characters the only thing I want is for Summer to be truly gone for good.
There are already many stories with similar themes of lovers disappearing, and never being seen or heard from again. I want her to come back because it'll be interesting to see and learn about why she vanished in the first place. One of the main things that make this story interesting, is her disappearance. Her dying or never coming back for some odd reason would be pretty generic in my opinion. I can't tell you how many YA novels have similar subplots featuring a lost love or a lost friend/family member. Worse yet, is that it's predictable. Too linear. I'm someone that tries to think outside of the box in regard to crafting stories, so when I see something that I can easily foresee the outcome of, it kind of eliminates a lot of interest for me(tension and suspense are everything). But maybe I'm the only one here with that view ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Personally, I want her to come back. It'll shake things up, and her reappearance will probably both answer a lot of questions and trigger cascading effects throughout the entirety of the story.

Edit: So let's say that she doesn't come back. Now what? What does that mean for the story? MC's normal again... hurray! But what does that mean from a storytelling perspective? I just feel that this route would be a bit uninteresting. Also, I know many are curious as to what an adult Summer would look like, as well as how the event affected her and what her (probable) sudden reappearance means for the rest of the cast. There's too much potential there for Oceans to just end it with her being murdered or her dropping off the face of the earth. But that's the writer in me speaking so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edit #2: This is just my opinion. I really don't care enough about this topic to argue it(no offence to anyone)ღ
 
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There are already many stories with similar themes of lovers disappearing, and never being seen or heard from again. I want her to come back because it'll be interesting to see and learn about why she vanished in the first place. One of the main things that make this story interesting, is her disappearance. Her dying or never coming back for some odd reason would be pretty generic in my opinion. I can't tell you how many YA novels have similar subplots featuring a lost love or a lost friend/family member. Worse yet, is that it's predictable. Too linear. I'm someone that tries to think outside of the box in regard to crafting stories, so when I see something that I can easily foresee the outcome of, it kind of eliminates a lot of interest for me. But maybe I'm the only one here with that view ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Personally, I want her to come back. It'll shake everything up, and her reappearance will probably both explain and start a lot of things as far as the story goes.
I guess it depends on what part of the world you live and what kinda media you grow up with. For example Latino telenovelas have a lost sibling/lover showing up almost 100% of the time, for people that have watched those types of shows in the past, having Summer just be a plot device might be refreshing, don't think it has that much to do with thinking outside of the box, or not. That ship has sailed, every story is an inspiration, of an inspiration, of an inspiration of a story.

Something completely original, if its even possible, it would not hit the same way with general audiences, people have been conditioned to enjoy their tropes.
 
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Absolutely love this VN so far, pissed I didn't find it sooner. There are still some pacing issues IMO but damn the amount of emotion it can conjure is mad. All LI's are great but Nami is obviously the best ;) Bella's path is so good also but especially after my first run It really hurts to see what your other relations do to Nami.

I have personal history that helps attach me to this story so maybe it's that but It breaks me every time Summer is shown in flashbacks or talked about from the MC's POV. It's just incredibly well done, even down to seeing things/people that remind you of her throughout (In game).

On Topic: I want nothing more than for Summer to come back, for the epic happy ever after ending and just for MC. That doesn't mean it's the best decision for the story though. Unless done spectacularly it will fall short and feel cheap and diminish all your other relationships. If the game was setup that you are searching for Summer maybe that's different but MC is trying to move on. It's about MC's life and struggles with mental health, sadly not about Summer. That's my interpretation anyway.

9/10 game, will probs make a review soon but if anyone see's this comment and you like romance, good character building/dialogue and darker mental themes, this one will resonate with you!
 

Ottoeight

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Honestly, guys...

...you're wondering whether a 12 years old ponytail brat is coming back after being a missing person for 5 years!?! srsly?!?!?

The only plausible thing that might happen in the story is that one day Noji will get a phone from Summer's parents/relatives telling her that they found a buried corpse of a preteen girl somewhere in the forest and that DNA analysis confirmed it's Summer's.

BUT these are MY 2 cents ONLY.

My real doubt NOW and my question to you is:

how would you rather die by suffocation if you were MC? would you rather die by suffocation with your face between Vic's boobies or between Mila's knockers? :unsure:

Vic or Mila? :unsure: the doubt is killing me.
 
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I kept seeing images posted from this game and thought "hey this looks good" then I realised all the hot pictures of the girls I've been seeing are actually background characters, :FacePalm: who look better than the main cast. I did some investigating cause my initial reaction was WTF is going on Ocean?! Then from some very reliable sources I discovered the truth. Ocean's sister, his girlfriend, his mom, his step mom, his baby sitter and even Ocean himself they're all in the game!!!
Where has she gone Oceanlab ?:
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OCEEEAAAAANNNN!!!!!!
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Leon queen

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Hi, Can someone please explain the Family relationships?
So Niko is their step mother? and Nami is your step sister?
So Niko adopted two completely unrelated children?
And raised them single handedly?
I think?
 

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Hi, Can someone please explain the Family relationships?
So Niko is their step mother? and Nami is your step sister?
So Niko adopted two completely unrelated children?
And raised them single handedly?
I think?
If you dont use the patch I believe Nami and MC where friends before hand and there was an accident with both their parents involved and Nojiko adopts them afterwards.

If the patch is used they are blood related siblings who are adopted after an accident with their parents.

I dont remember if it is clearly stated if they where in an orphanage or if Nojiko was a family friend and took them in after their parents died.
 

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...you're wondering whether a 12 years old ponytail brat is coming back after being a missing person for 5 years!?! srsly?!?!?

The only plausible thing that might happen in the story is that one day Noji will get a phone from Summer's parents/relatives telling her that they found a buried corpse of a preteen girl somewhere in the forest and that DNA analysis confirmed it's Summer's.
But she isn't a "missing persons". It has never been stated that there was a police report or investigation. They just say she is gone. Clearly reinforced by the fact that no one our MC has been involved with has any idea about him or Summer. If she was a "Missing Persons" you think the story would have made headlines in the city and more people would have heard about the MC and Summers name.
 
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Lostanddamned

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You know they say all devs are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Oceanlab and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another dev you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25% at best at beating me! And then you add AchedCroissant to the mix? Your chances of updating the game drastically go down. See, the three-way at Summer's Gone, you got a 33 1/3 % chance of updating. But I? I got a 66 2/3 % chance of updating, cuz Oceanlab KnOoOoOoOows he won't update the game, and he's not even gonna try. So, Oceanlab, you take your 33 1/3 % chance minus my 25% chance, and you got an 8 1/3 chance of updating Summer's Gone. But then you take my 75% chance of updating, and then add 66 2/3 %, I got a 141 2/3 % chance of updating the game! Señor Oceanlab, the numbers don't lie, and they spell DISASTER for you with Summer's Gone! :Kappa:
 

Cabin Fever

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You know they say all devs are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Oceanlab and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another dev you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25% at best at beating me! And then you add AchedCroissant to the mix? Your chances of updating the game drastically go down. See, the three-way at Summer's Gone, you got a 33 1/3 % chance of updating. But I? I got a 66 2/3 % chance of updating, cuz Oceanlab KnOoOoOoOows he won't update the game, and he's not even gonna try. So, Oceanlab, you take your 33 1/3 % chance minus my 25% chance, and you got an 8 1/3 chance of updating Summer's Gone. But then you take my 75% chance of updating, and then add 66 2/3 %, I got a 141 2/3 % chance of updating the game! Señor Oceanlab, the numbers don't lie, and they spell DISASTER for you with Summer's Gone! :Kappa:
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Leon queen

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If you dont use the patch I believe Nami and MC where friends before hand and there was an accident with both their parents involved and Nojiko adopts them afterwards.

If the patch is used they are blood related siblings who are adopted after an accident with their parents.

I dont remember if it is clearly stated if they where in an orphanage or if Nojiko was a family friend and took them in after their parents died.
Mmm the only time it's ever really mentioned that i can think of is when Nojiko's Boyfriends daughters mention they were expecting asian kids.
Cheers for replying tho
 

Old Man Al

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You know they say all devs are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Oceanlab and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another dev you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25% at best at beating me! And then you add AchedCroissant to the mix? Your chances of updating the game drastically go down. See, the three-way at Summer's Gone, you got a 33 1/3 % chance of updating. But I? I got a 66 2/3 % chance of updating, cuz Oceanlab KnOoOoOoOows he won't update the game, and he's not even gonna try. So, Oceanlab, you take your 33 1/3 % chance minus my 25% chance, and you got an 8 1/3 chance of updating Summer's Gone. But then you take my 75% chance of updating, and then add 66 2/3 %, I got a 141 2/3 % chance of updating the game! Señor Oceanlab, the numbers don't lie, and they spell DISASTER for you with Summer's Gone! :Kappa:
Wat? Or as we Germans say "Hä?"

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Well carry on... with whatever that is... I don't feel offended... I think.
 

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My real doubt NOW and my question to you is:

how would you rather die by suffocation if you were MC? would you rather die by suffocation with your face between Vic's boobies or between Mila's knockers? :unsure:

Vic or Mila? :unsure: the doubt is killing me.
I can't find the question to be answered here. Why doubt when you hear Bella's car rumble outside? :)
 

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how would you rather die by suffocation if you were MC? would you rather die by suffocation with your face between Vic's boobies or between Mila's knockers? :unsure:

Vic or Mila? :unsure: the doubt is killing me.
While I'd die happy either way with those 2 choices, my answer is neither. I'm an incurable Nadia-stan.
 

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You know they say all devs are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Oceanlab and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another dev you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25% at best at beating me! And then you add AchedCroissant to the mix? Your chances of updating the game drastically go down. See, the three-way at Summer's Gone, you got a 33 1/3 % chance of updating. But I? I got a 66 2/3 % chance of updating, cuz Oceanlab KnOoOoOoOows he won't update the game, and he's not even gonna try. So, Oceanlab, you take your 33 1/3 % chance minus my 25% chance, and you got an 8 1/3 chance of updating Summer's Gone. But then you take my 75% chance of updating, and then add 66 2/3 %, I got a 141 2/3 % chance of updating the game! Señor Oceanlab, the numbers don't lie, and they spell DISASTER for you with Summer's Gone! :Kappa:
Okay... (stepping slowly back) ... whispering into my mike (can I get security to aisle 12...)

Honestly, when I read this, I had a flashback to high school. We had a click of people - upperclassmen - who used all kinds of abbreviations and code words. One of them would say something that sounded like this and I'd look at my friends and we'd all go WTF!

So, I hope your friends read this 'cause it's lost on me :unsure:
 

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Hi, Can someone please explain the Family relationships?
So Niko is their step mother? and Nami is your step sister?
So Niko adopted two completely unrelated children?
And raised them single handedly?
I think?
Nojiko is the foster mom while Nami is Nika's (MC) blood related sister when you use uncensored patch.
When Summer's Gone was first released they are blood related but with patreon rules the dev need to change them to friends/roommates this is also affected other relationship such as Victoria and Maja, Vanessa and Zara and lastly Bella and her sister. Without patch they calling their sister as roommates and friends too lmao. You can also pay attention to the dialogue where some characters are curious why Nami is redhead while Nika is not if they are just foster siblings people would not question them about it.

You can also look to the other game of the dev the MC their have twin and little sister but need to censored so it become roommates and twin roommates (iirc)
Kinda funny when you know they have still the same last name
 

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Leia calls the MC, William I think?, "best friend" in WIAB. Not sure about roommate or roomie, like in SG. At least that's what I remember when you first go and meet Leia and introduce her to Miru. Which is better, more of a term of endearment I think. You get the picture they are very close, were very close or have been close for some time with such a label. Roomie sounds more distant. You can live with someone as roomies but not be friends really at all honestly.
 
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