Yamura

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If I remember correctly there was a scene, early in the VN, where MC, Victoria, Mila, maybe Nami are in a coffee shop but the scene opens with a partial render of a girl dressed in black, wears a black veil over her face, has a cigarette holder. Has she reappeared since then? Anyone got a theory on who she might be? Mine is she's Summer now in some type of guise, and I hope, for her as an adult, the dev uses the same one he uses for Leia in WIAB. She's stunning.
 
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seniorboop

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While Maja is nice, We already have a plethora of blonde LIs on top of the like 20 other LIs he has planned. We dont need any more to make the updates become longer and longer.

We have 4 paths open right now and it takes him 7 months to do an update. What happens when we have the 20 LIs he has to incorporate into the story and make content for?
Exactly this. I hope his amnesia extends to more than half the list of potential LIs.

Imagine the technical debt that would accumulate having to create and maintain branching for the ~20 LIs proposed unless the intent of the design is meant to offer an illusion of choice to obfuscate a linear experience.

Anyone that wants to see the conclusion of the story within the next decade or two should be advocating for a reduction rather than an expansion of the list.
 

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Exactly this. I hope his amnesia extends to more than half the list of potential LIs.

Imagine the technical debt that would accumulate having to create and maintain branching for the ~20 LIs proposed unless the intent of the design is meant to offer an illusion of choice to obfuscate a linear experience.

Anyone that wants to see the conclusion of the story within the next decade or two should be advocating for a reduction rather than an expansion of the list.
100% agree. Just get us to a point in game where the MCs dick actually works again and have a vast majority of that list be lewdable characters on the side if you want your MC to be a fuck boy.

Then you can add like 1 to 3 more LIs since Zara already seems to have a path opened from the last chapter and I am still under the belief that Summer comes back at some point which would be another LI. Then you could pull in someone like Nadia or Ayua or Sasha. We have a solid cast to pick from at that point, Not to much crazy branching and the story doesnt get delayed more and more with every new LI addition. Simple.
 

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While Maja is nice, We already have a plethora of blonde LIs on top of the like 20 other LIs he has planned. We dont need any more to make the updates become longer and longer.

We have 4 paths open right now and it takes him 7 months to do an update. What happens when we have the 20 LIs he has to incorporate into the story and make content for?
Production is slower, in terms of chapter release/x months, than normal.

Ocean clearly explained why -- he was rewriting CH 1 & 2 as part of preparing Summers Gone for a Steam release.

He is focused on a big future for SG and this release is part of that future -- Season 1 releases on Steam once he releases CH 5 final to supporters.

After this, there are no more rewrites in the works so it will take less time/chapter to reach Ch final and release.

He is also creating WIAB concurrently with SG.

Agree or disagree - I'm all for whatever Ocean needs to do to maintain his creativity, his health and his desire to keep creating new chapters of SG.

One of the things many of us enjoy about this great AVN is top notch music!

This has been a challenge for Ocean due to the time and $ required to negotiate the use of music for an AVN.

He has, in my opinion, the best playlist of any AVN I've played... it's so good, I will just put the play list on and listen to it while I work on weekends/evenings.

Music is expensive, and the time to negotiate those licenses competes with the time he uses to render/animate and write the story.

At one time, he mentioned looking to hire someone to take on this role so he can focus on what he enjoys most, and it not working with lawyers and music services to try to lock down the interpretations of a contract just so he can use a song and not have to worry about it 3 years later.

I don't know where he stands on this now, but I trust him to make the best use of his time.

Ocean teams well with others, he is not afraid to hire others to help but sometimes that becomes its own problem.

The outdoor field complex - he hired someone to make that for him and they did a great job.

He hired someone to make an in-game phone for SG and that person bolo 'ed that so Ocean had to delay implementation of that feature and, last word was that he is creating this feature himself.

He upgrades hardware to make SG even better through time and he upgrades software as he needs to so that SG is built on a stable foundation (CH 4 involved a RenPy update that broke saves but it had to be done and I'm fine with that - I was going to restart anyway so I could see the new content in CH 1 and 2).


So - What can We do to help Ocean with Summers Gone (besides the obvious Patreon/SS support)?

We can wish-list Summers Gone on Steam and it does not cost any $.

If enough of us do this, it will increase the visibility of SG on Steam and that will influence where they show SG.

We can put Summers Gone on the first page of Steam and keep it there.

Ch 4.5 final is coming out soon. Why not hit Steam and take care of wish listing SG there before downloading the Ch 4.5 final when it releases.
 

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Production is slower, in terms of chapter release/x months, than normal.

Ocean clearly explained why -- he was rewriting CH 1 & 2 as part of preparing Summers Gone for a Steam release.
Its not like SG had a shorter cycle before all that though. The issue is that he insists on running 2 games side by side instead of just finishing one. His insistence on making the games belong together was in my opinion a way to get people off his back for trying to do both at the same time because it took away from the other.

Now he is making them coexist in the same universe, Which caused the reworks/rewrites to both games which has caused longer times in between. Then he has this super extensive list of LIs for SG that makes the amount of girls in BaDIK look small. So I don't see the production pace getting better, Its going to continue to slow down with the amount of content he is going to have to add in each subsequent chapter on top of whatever he has planned for WiaB as well.

And that's assuming we even make it that far with out "burnout" or just losing his interest in this project.

I want to give him the benefit of the doubt as this is one of the better AVNs I have played, But the track record of a vast majority of games on here going belly up due to the aforementioned things above or the dev just ghosting before even getting close to the end has trained me not to get my hopes up high.
 

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Now he is making them coexist in the same universe, Which caused the reworks/rewrites to both games which has caused longer times in between.
They always existed in the same 'universe', even when Regium was the dev (Ocean gave him the story). In fact there are/were five games planned within the same universe.
Its not like SG had a shorter cycle before all that though. The issue is that he insists on running 2 games side by side instead of just finishing one. His insistence on making the games belong together was in my opinion a way to get people off his back for trying to do both at the same time because it took away from the other.
Ocean is working on two games because Regium bailed, and Ocean is passionate about finishing both games. It hasn't got anyone off his back, people regularly mention it. Working on two games slows both, but there's little chance of this changing so no point rehashing it.

Finishing the rework should lead to shorter periods between releases. As would hiring artists to help out theoretically, assuming Ocean can afford it & can properly manage them.

We'll have to wait & see if Ocean can achieve more consistent/shorter release times, or things continue to get in the way of his stated goals.
I'm singling this out because I flat-out disagree. The last update for SG took 4 months and he said that he was aiming for 3-4 month development cycles moving forward.
I know Ocean has said the last update took three months, but given the final version still isn't out yet it's going to be over five months since 4.0 final was released.

I assume he's referring to how long it took to render the substance of 4.5 (ignoring the rework, coding etc.), which is great news if it can be maintained. In theory it's a useful benchmark for future chapters once we're past the rework.

Period between releases (full/final versions):

File/VersionBuild datePeriod (months)
SummersGone-Ch3final-pc.zip2021-01-22NA
SummersGone_3.5_Full-pc.zip2021-08-19~7
SummersGoneChapter4-pc.zip2022-07-24~11
SummersGoneChapter4.52023-01-?~6
 
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no banging needed for nami from some other guy i want to have it all variety of desserts
Pretty sure she goes lesbo if i don't take her. :ROFLMAO: I'll indulge on some play through. But seriously, Bella.... and i want my sis with a good guy :ROFLMAO:
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Thanks for adding in some of the backstory for 'OceanVerse" :)

I had heard that there were other AVN possibilities beyond SG and WIAB but did not know that there was an Ocean quote about 5 possible AVNs that were interrelated. I like the idea of intersecting stories with easter eggs that link characters and rewards those of us interested enough to note those intersections.
 
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Not sure if this was released as a render, but does anyone have screen shot of Bella sitting on the car in the field from the Aurora app? For some reason my computer doesn't allow me to screen cap it. It's a beautiful fucking picture & i would love to use it for my wallpaper.
 
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Skrrt!

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Is there a way to contact the game developer Oceanlab in private ?
Impossible to send him a message by Discord or Twitter, and he has no email.
i would assume contacting him through patreon DM would be the most direct way, but i think you have to be a subscriber. idk. i never tried. To be real, unless it's a MAJOR concern, i wouldn't wanna bug him anyway. Might set the next release back like 3 years lol /s
 
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