VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Rome5555555]

I didn't get it, man, how he avoids finding and paying for new music if that's what he exactly was doing after he was forced to remove some old songs from the game?

Copyright is serious, even some songs that are free can not be used in games for adults.

 

[yossa999]

Copyright is serious, even some songs that are free can not be used in games for adults.

Nah, I meant that's exactly what Ocean has been doing lately. He was looking for a new songs for his games and negotiating licensing matters with the rights holders so that he could constantly use the purchased licensed songs in the game, and they could not say later - we refuse to renew the rights to use our songs for you, because your game has become too much adult for us.

 

[Mortarion]

That would be a false sense of a larger audience. A larger audience that can only view the first season, nothing beyond.

It's not only the bigger reach/net. If the game contains +18 content, Ocean could not access his own game from his german location 'cause of the stupid valve geoblock. Let's be honest to ourself, he want make money with his work - everyone will get paid for his work, anyone who tells something diffrent lies.

Getting his game to steam, even the all age Season 1, will skyrocket his income and build more safety for him. If Season 1 goes well for him - I personally hope it from the bottom of my heart - he can move to another country with one worry less.

 

[Mortarion]

Does anyone know if Ocean received a warning from the muscian's licensing company or Steam, or is he being preemptive because of what other devs have faced?

No, no warning or something similiar.

I noticed the shitshow what happened to Drifty on his discord an redirected it instant through a DM on discord to Ocean. But Drifty was faster and informed Ocean the day before.

It was not only Drifty or Ocean that got screwd by Artlist (the license owner, and responsible for that clusterfuck), even Kent&Stoya from Chasing Sunsets where on the bucketlist of this assholes.

 

[yossa999]

No, no warning or something similiar.

I noticed the shitshow what happened to Drifty on his discord an redirected it instant through a DM on discord to Ocean. But Drifty was faster and informed Ocean the day before.

It was not only Drifty or Ocean that got screwd by Artlist (the license owner, and responsible for that clusterfuck), even Kent&Stoya from Chasing Sunsets where on the bucketlist of this assholes.

Actually this isn't exactly correct, he received a warning.

From the 28 Jun Dev Log:

"So, I got a lovely E-Mail around a week ago, where I was informed that Elijah Fords Management has changed, and they advised him to pull out all the music from previous deals.
"But Ocean, didn't you make a contract?"

Yes, but I was/am a poor bitch and couldn't afford to make a big one-time payment for each song, and instead paid them a monthly fee...

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[Nurikabe]

It's not only the bigger reach/net. If the game contains +18 content, Ocean could not access his own game from his german location 'cause of the stupid valve geoblock. Let's be honest to ourself, he want make money with his work - everyone will get paid for his work, anyone who tells something diffrent lies.

Getting his game to steam, even the all age Season 1, will skyrocket his income and build more safety for him. If Season 1 goes well for him - I personally hope it from the bottom of my heart - he can move to another country with one worry less.

Nothing wrong with wanting to get paid for the work one does. Moving out of Germany to avoid a Steam geoblock seems extreme. Is that even on Ocean's radar? Moving for the sake of a game?

Yeah, anyone who was using the Artlist subscription got screwed when they changed the clause for adult games. An excellent reason to avoid Artlist at all costs, and to consider not using music at all.

 

[baklol]

Sounds like some poor planning to me.



Sure i get it but come on... it's been like 5 years of game development time and all I have seen is 1 cock and 2 titties from the game. The cock to titty ratio is completely off.

bro there are many mindless fucks game go there if you don't want any good story thanks

 

[Mortarion]

Actually this isn't exactly correct, he received a warning.

From the 28 Jun Dev Log:

Just to be the smartass:

I warned him 23.04.023, and drifty send his message on the 22.04.2023 - give and take the diffrence 'cause the timezones. The devlog was in June.

 

[Mortarion]

[...]Moving out of Germany to avoid a Steam geoblock seems extreme. Is that even on Ocean's radar?
Moving for the sake of a game?

Yes, it is. And yes, he want. It was mentioned by him in one ov the devlogs, or a post here/on discord. Steam is not the only reason, the exorbitant energy costs are a part of it. Or borderline stupid and incomepent gouverment does his best to kill off any economy in our county for the sake of the so called"climate change"

You have to keep in mind, that SG and WIAB are no hour based side projects for Ocean. Unlike many other devs here around Ocean works fulltime on the game. No other income than the money that comes through Patreon, Subscribe Star or Steam.

 

[AlexFXR]

Can you copy/paste into 100 AVNs a complaint about how the dev is just greedy and trying to make more money? - Yes

Does that make it true? - No

Why do you come up with all sorts of nonsense and speak on behalf of Ocean? LoL. Ocean personally refutes your words. Now will you start making excuses for not knowing this? I'm not interested in this, aggressive people like you are not able to think clearly. You don’t have to answer me, I’m used to communicating with more adequate people.

 

[sorco2003]

Actually this isn't exactly correct, he received a warning.

From the 28 Jun Dev Log:

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Just to be the smartass:

I warned him 23.04.023, and drifty send his message on the 22.04.2023 - give and take the diffrence 'cause the timezones. The devlog was in June.

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I think you two are talking about two different times Mortarion shows the collapse in 2022 (when Drifty - Steam) and Yossa talks about newer things.

Yes, it is. And yes, he want. It was mentioned by him in one ov the devlogs, or a post here/on discord. Steam is not the only reason, the exorbitant energy costs are a part of it. Or borderline stupid and incomepent gouverment does his best to kill off any economy in our county for the sake of the so called"climate change"

You have to keep in mind, that SG and WIAB are no hour based side projects for Ocean. Unlike many other devs here around Ocean works fulltime on the game. No other income than the money that comes through Patreon, Subscribe Star or Steam.

Not long ago Ocean was talking about learning Catalan and looking at the possibility of Barcelona. I don't know if anything has changed since that time, but it was a very concrete possibility.

 

[Mamaragan]

So, this is the "adjusted" render for the Steam release

He also adjusted a scene with Nami, not much but still as well as Bella in the fitting room when he was naked with her.

 

[Deleted member 327695]

Ocean is going to remove the scene in the fitting room where MC gets naked with Bella.

Bro... Please make sure you're not spreading misinformation.

I said "But MC's leg will be adjusted in a way that it hides the pp. Like here from Ch4. (Jacuzzi image you attached.)"
So one single render in the Bella changing room gets altered...

I never said anything about removing an entire scene...

 

[Solaris33]

Seems like there have been a lot of hoops to jump through for the Steam release. At this point, it's starting to feel like season 2 is where the game will really start (not that I haven't been enjoying season 1). No more reworks, hopefully no more music issues, more screen time for characters who haven't had as much yet, and some actual sex scenes.

 

[Mamaragan]

Bro... Please make sure you're not spreading misinformation.

I said "But MC's leg will be adjusted in a way that it hides the pp. Like here from Ch4. (Jacuzzi image you attached.)"
So one single render in the Bella changing room gets altered...

I never said anything about removing an entire scene...

My bad, corrected. I misread what you said

 

[TERES]

Bro... Please make sure you're not spreading misinformation.

I said "But MC's leg will be adjusted in a way that it hides the pp. Like here from Ch4. (Jacuzzi image you attached.)"
So one single render in the Bella changing room gets altered...

I never said anything about removing an entire scene...

Will these images be edited?

 

[PickerLewd]

Very weird, Steam censors male genitalia but allows the girls breast to be visible . I have no complaints about this .

 

[anonnyscouse]

Very weird, Steam censors male genitalia but allows the girls breast to be visible . I have no complaints about this .

It's not Steam, it's the music licence with small print, why they don't want their songs related to a penis but not a naked female is the question they'd have to answer.

 

[sorco2003]

It's not Steam, it's the music licence with small print, why they don't want their songs related to a penis but not a naked female is the question they'd have to answer.

I think the question is that it will be released on Steam without the tag that makes it pornographic (or full adult).
So Steam would also allow female nudity but not penises for their tag.

 

[JJ1960]

It's not Steam, it's the music licence with small print, why they don't want their songs related to a penis but not a naked female is the question they'd have to answer.

The publisher said they didn't want anyone to use their song with a different pianist and someone misheard what they told them...