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The render quality of Being ADIK is around the same as AL, and no where near the best, compared to many other games on this site. The render quality of the reworked SG is VASTLY superior to the original SG.
I think BaD can't compete with SG in terms of graphics quality. In general, few can leave her any competition.
OK, what has differences in plot between the two games have to do with the Dev's attitude and trust? That makes absolutely no sense. Trust? Ocean has been upfront since taking SG back over - the slow burn/no sexual content disclaimer has been in there for years.
Ocean received a game that has already achieved success thanks to Regium. Regium made characters with different personalities and behavior. Ocean could not repeat this and his characters are all the same and differ only in appearance. Example: At the beginning, Nami sexually harassed MC and showed him her tits without reason, then Victoria started doing this, now it’s Bella’s turn. Now Zara began to harass MC. Almost all the characters have no personality, they are like soulless dummies.
Regium is an excellent director, Ocean is an excellent artist. Therefore, SG becomes more and more beautiful with each update, but the plot becomes more and more boring and drawn out.
Being ADIK is an American-Pie-esque bonk-fest that ticks the right boxes for many people. DPC could halve the render count per update and the game would still be popular.
You are wrong. Read how they began to call DPC after he said that he would do animation at 60 fps.
SG is a story-driven slow-burn that also ticks the right boxes for many people.
SG's plot is no slower than BaD's, but development is very slow. Do not confuse. People complain about this all the time. Many joke about this that during development they will manage to get married, have children and have grandchildren and will grow old by the time the game is over.
 

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Sancho1969 I have noticed that you has fixed the evil patch. I have no clue about conding, but can it be that a borked/unfit IC patch shows complete messed up scene? Like the scenes are not shown in the right order, or even the wrong renders?
Well bud, funny you should ask.

There is one scene that is completely fucked up and I couldn't fix it.

I gave the info to Oceanlab (along with other issues I did resolve) via PM.

It's the scene where the MC meets Bella's aunt Claire. That scene's images/dialogue are a complete mess and don't match up at all.

All other scenes played correctly for me although there were many (literally hundreds) where a character would be speaking via the dialogue box but the image would be with their mouth shut, then someone else would be "talking" and the wrong character's mouth was open.

So yes, there's many many minor issues still in existence. It's on the dev to fix them, I don't rewrite VN's per se... not my duty tbh.
 

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It's the scene where the MC meets Bella's aunt Claire. That scene's images/dialogue are a complete mess and don't match up at all.
That was exact the scene I was talking about...

I was not able to reduce it to 100% the patch 'cause I can't load any save that was created with the patch when the patch was removed.

Well I'm not complaining, I'm just courios. I am aware that messing with any kind of beta and some patches backfires hard in the most cases.
 

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That was exact the scene I was talking about...

I was not able to reduce it to 100% the patch 'cause I can't load any save that was created with the patch when the patch was removed.

Well I'm not complaining, I'm just courios. I am aware that messing with any kind of beta and some patches backfires hard in the most cases.
You're best with a new playthrough anyway... even if you use SanchoMod. While not technically required there were some changed variables, some removed, some added, etc. Not to mention several chapters have hundreds upon hundreds of transition, restructure, etc changes in them. Just start fresh... and if you're playing unmodded you'll likely want these two fixes from my post here I made just for unmodded Players.
 

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You're best with a new playthrough anyway... even if you use SanchoMod. While not technically required there were some changed variables, some removed, some added, etc. Not to mention several chapters have hundreds upon hundreds of transition, restructure, etc changes in them. Just start fresh... and if you're playing unmodded you'll likely want these two fixes from my post here I made just for unmodded Players.
Well, maybe the problem is that Ocean still has to remake the scene between Nika and Bella's aunt in the infirmary. The whole first basketball lesson + infirmary scene are still from the "old game" version and they need to be remade for the full chapter 5 (and Steam) release.
 

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Well, maybe the problem is that Ocean still has to remake the scene between Nika and Bella's aunt in the infirmary. The whole first basketball lesson + infirmary scene are still from the "old game" version and they need to be remade for the full chapter 5 (and Steam) release.
Indeed.. I think Ch2 needs a complete overhaul again... I've passed him most of my notes... he'll get it all sorted at some point.
 

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You're best with a new playthrough anyway...
That happened to me while a fresh restart just with the (borked) ICPatch. Because the lack of a certain mod whose dev was to lazzy and more busy to finish a ribey instead being our selfless coding slave. :p

. even if you use SanchoMod. While not technically required there were some changed variables, some removed, some added, etc. Not to mention several chapters have hundreds upon hundreds of transition, restructure, etc changes in them. Just start fresh... and if you're playing unmodded you'll likely want these two fixes from my post here I made just for unmodded Players.
Yeah I noticed that two fixes of yours, nice work bud. This game is one of the few I play mostly undmodded - beside the ICPatch. I can say that in the most cases I prefer a detailed PDF walkthrough over the usuall pick the green and not the red awnser mods.
Anyway, your mods are a superp piece of work.

When Ch5 Full is released I will go fir it again when you have finished your mod. (y)
 

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That happened to me while a fresh restart just with the (borked) ICPatch. Because the lack of a certain mod whose dev was to lazzy and more busy to finish a ribey instead being our selfless coding slave. :p



Yeah I noticed that two fixes of yours, nice work bud. This game is one of the few I play mostly undmodded - beside the ICPatch. I can say that in the most cases I prefer a detailed PDF walkthrough over the usuall pick the green and not the red awnser mods.
Anyway, your mods are a superp piece of work.

When Ch5 Full is released I will go fir it again when you have finished your mod. (y)
My bud Meushi makes excellent written walkthroughs...but I reckon you likely know that. If not it's listed in the VN's OP (unlike my hundreds of hours of work :/)
 
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Huh...i just noticed that when you chose to kiss Nami at the end of chapter 4, basically responding to her feelings, she also starts to get pretty jealous of the other girls.

For example when you carry Zara on your shoulders, Nami reacts to that.

If you didn't kiss her, she doesn't say anything about it and the scene just goes on.

Interesting detail added by Ocean, a small one but very interesting, and there are other details in this chapter regarding her if you respond to her feelings.
 

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Yes, but we are still in the same, when the game has lewd scenes it will have to disappear from german steam anyway, why release the first season then? why not stick to other markets? why not leave those scenes in the patreon version that don't require code change?

Something smells fishy to me....
Ocean said so as not to lose music and earn more money.
 

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Whatever you say I like this bitch :love:

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I must admit i wasn't a big fan of Bella at the beginning and i liked much more Nami and Mila, but after the new update, i think she is at the top and surpassed her.

I was thinking that she will begin to change after she ends up with MC, becoming a good girl or something, but i'm glad she remained the same and i hope she will remain like that.

Bella being an evil bitch is what makes her charming and a favorite LI
 
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I think BaD can't compete with SG in terms of graphics quality. In general, few can leave her any competition.

Ocean received a game that has already achieved success thanks to Regium. Regium made characters with different personalities and behavior. Ocean could not repeat this and his characters are all the same and differ only in appearance. Example: At the beginning, Nami sexually harassed MC and showed him her tits without reason, then Victoria started doing this, now it’s Bella’s turn. Now Zara began to harass MC. Almost all the characters have no personality, they are like soulless dummies.
Regium is an excellent director, Ocean is an excellent artist. Therefore, SG becomes more and more beautiful with each update, but the plot becomes more and more boring and drawn out.
Yeah, we're simply gonna have to disagree on this one. Visual quality aside, Regium's version of the story was superficial at best, and unbelievable at worst. As a case in point, it took until the current Ch 5 to remove that utterly ridiculous Marla shooting event, a legacy from Regium's version.

I get it that there's still a lot of people pissed than Ocean isn't continuing Regium's psychopathic characterizations.

To the best of my knowledge, SG is not Regium's concept. He got handed the premise by Ocean.
 

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Yeah, we're simply gonna have to disagree on this one. Visual quality aside, Regium's version of the story was superficial at best, and unbelievable at worst. As a case in point, it took until the current Ch 5 to remove that utterly ridiculous Marla shooting event, a legacy from Regium's version.

I get it that there's still a lot of people pissed than Ocean isn't continuing Regium's psychopathic characterizations.

To the best of my knowledge, SG is not Regium's concept. He got handed the premise by Ocean.
That scene with the gun was Regium doing?

Then i'm glad Ocean is taking care of this game instead :KEK:
 

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I must admit i wasn't a big fan of Bella at the beginning and i liked much more Nami and Mila, but after the new update, i think she is at the top and surpassed her.

I was thinking that she will begin to change after she ends up with MC, becoming a good girl or something, but i'm glad she remained the same and i hope she will remain like that.

Bella being an evil bitch is what makes her charming and a favorite LI
Bella good.jpg
 

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Yeah, we're simply gonna have to disagree on this one. Visual quality aside, Regium's version of the story was superficial at best, and unbelievable at worst. As a case in point, it took until the current Ch 5 to remove that utterly ridiculous Marla shooting event, a legacy from Regium's version.

I get it that there's still a lot of people pissed than Ocean isn't continuing Regium's psychopathic characterizations.

To the best of my knowledge, SG is not Regium's concept. He got handed the premise by Ocean.
Utterly disagree on all fronts. Regium's version was the one I fell in love with and it still pains me how mediocre the game became after Ocean started developing it. I was on board with toning down the "psychopathic characterizations" and some over the top scenes but overall I liked Regium's vision for SG a lot more than I do Ocean's.

I wouldn't say I'm pissed at all. Just disappointed. Game fell from being my top 1 for almost 2 years to barely being in my top 15. It became average for me but by no means bad.

I still have a pre CH3 version that I play sometimes and that is still my headcanon. Psycho MC > panic attack MC imo. It was just more interesting.

But to each his own. I do not condemn Ocean for making the game more mainstream and chasing the €. It's a smart move. He just won't get any from me.
 
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