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Ocean changed the surname of Noji in Ch3, Sancho did not
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Meh...Ocean changed hundreds of things that I reverted back... I didn't mean to do this one though... nice catch bud. The only names I allow to change intentionally are the MC, Nami, and Bella. Any other naming difference are a fubar (bork) by me.
 

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You OK after tonight? Post modding disorder or a 22oz steak midnight snack is no childs play.
I'm pounding coffee currently...and starting the mod update for that other VN. Summer was rough though, ain't gonna lie... Ocean always give me a challenge... and this one certainly was tbh. I can't think of any way I could have done it in less than the three 16+hr days it took me... there's so much coding alterations/fixes I banged out. Considering the above surname is the only "bug" anyone has caught in the mod update makes me a bit proud though... I did go through the script line by line for 38,000 lines and I PM'd Ocean all the feedback I had logged.

But yeah, I grilled and scarfed that ribeye before midnight and that was the goal. I win. :ROFLMAO:
 

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If this was 90% + of the AVNs here on F95 - The MC would be actively working to ensure Noji kicked Nick to the curb because the MC is 'supposed' to have mom for himself.

In Summers Gone - I like Nick - and given that he opens his house up to Noji, Nami and the MC as soon as Noji asks for help - that means something.

The MC has always been very protective of Noji and Nami. It would be in keeping with his character for him to be supportive of Noji's relationship with Nick so long as Nick gives him no reason to doubt his good intentions.

I think having parental figures that actually act like decent people is a plus for storytelling and world-building in Summers Gone.

Nick is the only decent male role model we've met so far.

I am curious how long it will take for Nick to have a talk with the MC about he and Zara (once their feelings evolve and that LI path is open and pursued). That would be a good Dad move and fit the story based on what we know so far.

I'm sure some of the haters/trolls on this thread would complain about it - given how Un porn-like it is - but I am happy to support Ocean as he tells this story his way.

Cheers!! :coffee:
Agree.

And the little time we spent with the dad in WIAB. Also made me like him

For all my jokes (and how freaking cute Nojiko is) it is really nice to have a father figure that is not a douchebag mistreating everyone so we not feel guilty for fucking his wife, and a mother that is not trying to jump on our dick the moment she see us naked. You know, a mother judt being a mother.

Nojiko is a great character and Nick so far seems like a nice guy
 
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Sancho1969 I have noticed that you has fixed the evil patch. I have no clue about conding, but can it be that a borked/unfit IC patch shows complete messed up scene? Like the scenes are not shown in the right order, or even the wrong renders?


Bro, Nojiko herself tells that Katie's there for the kids. And Katie herself hints that she knew that Nami would be there.
Well, if you say so, that must have slipped my attention. You could be me to death and i would not be able to remind this ...
 

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The render quality of Being ADIK is around the same as AL, and no where near the best, compared to many other games on this site. The render quality of the reworked SG is VASTLY superior to the original SG.
I think BaD can't compete with SG in terms of graphics quality. In general, few can leave her any competition.
OK, what has differences in plot between the two games have to do with the Dev's attitude and trust? That makes absolutely no sense. Trust? Ocean has been upfront since taking SG back over - the slow burn/no sexual content disclaimer has been in there for years.
Ocean received a game that has already achieved success thanks to Regium. Regium made characters with different personalities and behavior. Ocean could not repeat this and his characters are all the same and differ only in appearance. Example: At the beginning, Nami sexually harassed MC and showed him her tits without reason, then Victoria started doing this, now it’s Bella’s turn. Now Zara began to harass MC. Almost all the characters have no personality, they are like soulless dummies.
Regium is an excellent director, Ocean is an excellent artist. Therefore, SG becomes more and more beautiful with each update, but the plot becomes more and more boring and drawn out.
Being ADIK is an American-Pie-esque bonk-fest that ticks the right boxes for many people. DPC could halve the render count per update and the game would still be popular.
You are wrong. Read how they began to call DPC after he said that he would do animation at 60 fps.
SG is a story-driven slow-burn that also ticks the right boxes for many people.
SG's plot is no slower than BaD's, but development is very slow. Do not confuse. People complain about this all the time. Many joke about this that during development they will manage to get married, have children and have grandchildren and will grow old by the time the game is over.
 

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Sancho1969 I have noticed that you has fixed the evil patch. I have no clue about conding, but can it be that a borked/unfit IC patch shows complete messed up scene? Like the scenes are not shown in the right order, or even the wrong renders?
Well bud, funny you should ask.

There is one scene that is completely fucked up and I couldn't fix it.

I gave the info to Oceanlab (along with other issues I did resolve) via PM.

It's the scene where the MC meets Bella's aunt Claire. That scene's images/dialogue are a complete mess and don't match up at all.

All other scenes played correctly for me although there were many (literally hundreds) where a character would be speaking via the dialogue box but the image would be with their mouth shut, then someone else would be "talking" and the wrong character's mouth was open.

So yes, there's many many minor issues still in existence. It's on the dev to fix them, I don't rewrite VN's per se... not my duty tbh.
 

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It's the scene where the MC meets Bella's aunt Claire. That scene's images/dialogue are a complete mess and don't match up at all.
That was exact the scene I was talking about...

I was not able to reduce it to 100% the patch 'cause I can't load any save that was created with the patch when the patch was removed.

Well I'm not complaining, I'm just courios. I am aware that messing with any kind of beta and some patches backfires hard in the most cases.
 

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That was exact the scene I was talking about...

I was not able to reduce it to 100% the patch 'cause I can't load any save that was created with the patch when the patch was removed.

Well I'm not complaining, I'm just courios. I am aware that messing with any kind of beta and some patches backfires hard in the most cases.
You're best with a new playthrough anyway... even if you use SanchoMod. While not technically required there were some changed variables, some removed, some added, etc. Not to mention several chapters have hundreds upon hundreds of transition, restructure, etc changes in them. Just start fresh... and if you're playing unmodded you'll likely want these two fixes from my post here I made just for unmodded Players.
 

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You're best with a new playthrough anyway... even if you use SanchoMod. While not technically required there were some changed variables, some removed, some added, etc. Not to mention several chapters have hundreds upon hundreds of transition, restructure, etc changes in them. Just start fresh... and if you're playing unmodded you'll likely want these two fixes from my post here I made just for unmodded Players.
Well, maybe the problem is that Ocean still has to remake the scene between Nika and Bella's aunt in the infirmary. The whole first basketball lesson + infirmary scene are still from the "old game" version and they need to be remade for the full chapter 5 (and Steam) release.
 

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Well, maybe the problem is that Ocean still has to remake the scene between Nika and Bella's aunt in the infirmary. The whole first basketball lesson + infirmary scene are still from the "old game" version and they need to be remade for the full chapter 5 (and Steam) release.
Indeed.. I think Ch2 needs a complete overhaul again... I've passed him most of my notes... he'll get it all sorted at some point.
 

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You're best with a new playthrough anyway...
That happened to me while a fresh restart just with the (borked) ICPatch. Because the lack of a certain mod whose dev was to lazzy and more busy to finish a ribey instead being our selfless coding slave. :p

. even if you use SanchoMod. While not technically required there were some changed variables, some removed, some added, etc. Not to mention several chapters have hundreds upon hundreds of transition, restructure, etc changes in them. Just start fresh... and if you're playing unmodded you'll likely want these two fixes from my post here I made just for unmodded Players.
Yeah I noticed that two fixes of yours, nice work bud. This game is one of the few I play mostly undmodded - beside the ICPatch. I can say that in the most cases I prefer a detailed PDF walkthrough over the usuall pick the green and not the red awnser mods.
Anyway, your mods are a superp piece of work.

When Ch5 Full is released I will go fir it again when you have finished your mod. (y)
 

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That happened to me while a fresh restart just with the (borked) ICPatch. Because the lack of a certain mod whose dev was to lazzy and more busy to finish a ribey instead being our selfless coding slave. :p



Yeah I noticed that two fixes of yours, nice work bud. This game is one of the few I play mostly undmodded - beside the ICPatch. I can say that in the most cases I prefer a detailed PDF walkthrough over the usuall pick the green and not the red awnser mods.
Anyway, your mods are a superp piece of work.

When Ch5 Full is released I will go fir it again when you have finished your mod. (y)
My bud Meushi makes excellent written walkthroughs...but I reckon you likely know that. If not it's listed in the VN's OP (unlike my hundreds of hours of work :/)
 
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