VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Krytax123]

I'm not saying Katie isn't interested in him, but he wasn't the main event. I'm suggesting that Katie's interest in him is less than her interest in Nami. I'm also saying that her interest in him might be something other than the assumed explanation. There isn't a single render that proves Nika is a Zane.

Haha lets not discuss their origin again, we just did that. Im just saying its WAY more likely that Katie has and equal interrest in Nami and Nika compared to being very interrested in Nami and barely in Nika. Nobody is saying that Nika is the main event, its equal.

No matter if Nika and Nami are blood-related, i think its safe to assume they live with Noji for the exact same reason, this wasnt a coincidence.

And Noji was at least fine with Nami tagging along (and therefore the possibility of meeting a Zane possibly) but not at all about Nika meeting a Zane there which seems to prove the "theory" of them bein equally important to the Zanes but Nika is a wildcard because of his mental condition (i think its very obvious .. even without the whole incest angle) in this case.

 

[turbojoe]

they really dont look similar imo.

and the mc of this game is even more of a crybaby compared to nika lol. An angel who ruled hell but needs a second personality who does all the cool shit (we play the lame personality) ..

its still somewhat decent

Maybe you misunderstood my posting..........

I never intended to compare the whole games, only the distant similarity of some character models, ok?

 

[Krytax123]

Maybe you misunderstood my posting..........

I never intended to compare the whole games, only the distant similarity of some character models, ok?

Yeah i got that, i just dont see it, Emma is a blonde and older Jill and the redhead is a very commonly used model with not this much similartiys with nami imo.

 

[Penfold Mole]

Maybe you misunderstood my posting..........

I never intended to compare the whole games, only the distant similarity of some character models, ok?

Sorry, but besides one being a redhead and the other one a blonde, the models really have nothing in common. Not even close. Distant, sure - a very distant similarity, all being the same species.

 

[turbojoe]

Yeah i got that, i just dont see it, Emma is a blonde and older Jill and the redhead is a very commonly used model with not this much similartiys with nami imo.

Sorry, but besides one being a redhead and the other one a blonde, the models really have nothing in common. Not even close. Distant, sure - a very distant similarity, all being the same species.

Ok - let´s forget it, I deleted my posting

 

[Doomyk]

It seems to me that Najiko would be angry with Katie even if Nami was alone in the club. She can shed light on some unwanted things (in Najiko's opinion). Especially if the inheritance is criminal.
But Nika is undesirable for other reasons too. Obviously Miss Marla and partly Amber have something to do with this. Charlie is clearly not very welcoming to Nika for a reason. She may well be helping Najiko and is trying to make not a very comfortable time for Nika. Sasha is clearly not happy to see Nika here. She and Robin clearly know more than they say.Keep in mind?if Nika don’t kiss Bella, then they call Miss Marla, who saves Nika. Well, another important character. Emily. Najiko’s best friend. And she also seems not *lewedable*, unlike Jenna or Anna.
And don't forget, we haven't seen all the club's visitors. Sasha and Elsa know each other. Imagine if Elsa goes to this club. Or even worse. Summer's mom could be a member of the club.

 

[Treyyyy]

man its crazy how a game with no sex scenes is so good i never thought i would love a game this much so many choices and paths. i think its time i redownload this game and completley finish it(well all the content that's available) i like the fact that ocean puts so much love into this game. Its amazing to see such a competent dev that knows what hes doing and what his fans want(just wanted to leave my thoughts about this game so hopefully what i just said is easy too read, im not too well at English)

 

[Don Sucio]

man its crazy how a game with no sex scenes is so good i never thought i would love a game this much so many choices and paths. i think its time i redownload this game and completley finish it(well all the content that's available) i like the fact that ocean puts so much love into this game. Its amazing to see such a competent dev that knows what hes doing and what his fans want(just wanted to leave my thoughts about this game so hopefully what i just said is easy too read, im not too well at English)

Dudeeee waiiiit, just wait for the full version, is supposed to release in this month, i think is better. Choose what you choose is indeed a good game

 

[Treyyyy]

Dudeeee waiiiit, just wait for the full version, is supposed to release in this month, i think is better. Choose what you choose is indeed a good game

okay thanks, im glad you told me too wait at first i was going to ask you why but i just read some messages explaining why. glad i didnt start playing(cause it was already downloaded) ill just wait till the full version, thanks alot.

 

[John972]

I'm not saying Katie isn't interested in him, but he wasn't the main event. I'm suggesting that Katie's interest in him is less than her interest in Nami. I'm also saying that her interest in him might be something other than the assumed explanation. There isn't a single render that proves Nika is a Zane.

It's hard to know Katie's motivation at the book club. I assume she is interested in both Nika and Nami more or less equally, but the book club meet presented her with an opportunity to see one of them. Nika being there was an added bonus.

Katie spoke to Nika and we (the player) were privy to that conversation. We don't know what was said when she spoke to Nami or how long that conversation lasted. Katie did seem intent on a cursory introduction with Nika, so she could go speak with Nami.

PS - every render of Nika hints that he's possibly a Zane - his unique eye colour (an eye colour shared only by members of the Zane and Von Halen families in SG and WIAB).

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[BobTheDuck]

It's hard to know Katie's motivation at the book club. I assume she is interested in both Nika and Nami more or less equally, but the book club meet presented her with an opportunity to see one of them. Nika being there was an added bonus.

Katie spoke to Nika and we (the player) were privy to that conversation. We don't know what was said when she spoke to Nami or how long that conversation lasted. Katie did seem intent on a cursory introduction with Nika, so she could go speak with Nami.

PS - every render of Nika hints that he's possibly a Zane - his unique eye colour (an eye colour shared only by members of the Zane and Von Halen families in SG and WIAB).

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I'm going with the same assumption - Katie has interest in both of them, but we don't know why and we're makign our own conjectures. She could have interest in either of them for separate/different reasons. We also can assume (reasonably) that Nami met a Zane while Summer was still around (to receive the earring) which means Noji isn't necessarily hiding them well, if that's what she's trying to do. It's also easy to assume that Katie spoke with Nami for the length of time Nika spoke with Noji, but it's off screen, so you're right, we don't know how long their interaction was. She might've just said hi the same way to both of them.

About eye colours - Cerill looks comparablely close to Bella and Nika, but the lighting of the scene she shares with them makes it hard (almost impossible) to tell. Claire is yellow/brown (similar to Susan) in the bookclub, and Penelope has green with a slight yellow tinge (again depending on the lighting in the render). I'm pretty sure can assume Amber is not a Zane given her age. Given Vic is more similar to Claire rather than Maja, and even Susan and Bella have similar depending on the lighting.

After all, in the bookclub scene Katie is clearly blue, and so is Nami, and Katie and Emilia are 100% identical in colour.

Below are just a few renders that kinda show to me I'm going to stay out of eye comparison debates - Ocean's light sources are never neutral and change everything. Below we have a case for the maternal side of the Zane's being blue (Scarlet is also blue, and as you corrected me Kat is also blue), while Leia and Dylan are the odd ones then. Also, Vic is closer to Nika than to Maja, Summer and Nami might as well be twins...

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[John972]

I'm going with the same assumption - Katie has interest in both of them, but we don't know why and we're makign our own conjectures. She could have interest in either of them for separate/different reasons. We also can assume (reasonably) that Nami met a Zane while Summer was still around (to receive the earring) which means Noji isn't necessarily hiding them well, if that's what she's trying to do. It's also easy to assume that Katie spoke with Nami for the length of time Nika spoke with Noji, but it's off screen, so you're right, we don't know how long their interaction was. She might've just said hi the same way to both of them.

About eye colours - Cerill looks comparablely close to Bella and Nika, but the lighting of the scene she shares with them makes it hard (almost impossible) to tell. Claire is yellow/brown (similar to Susan) in the bookclub, and Penelope has green with a slight yellow tinge (again depending on the lighting in the render). I'm pretty sure can assume Amber is not a Zane given her age. Given Vic is more similar to Claire rather than Maja, and even Susan and Bella have similar depending on the lighting.

After all, in the bookclub scene Katie is clearly blue, and so is Nami, and Katie and Emilia are 100% identical in colour.

Below are just a few renders that kinda show to me I'm going to stay out of eye comparison debates - Ocean's light sources are never neutral and change everything. Below we have a case for the maternal side of the Zane's being blue (Scarlet is also blue, and as you corrected me Kat is also blue), while Leia and Dylan are the odd ones then. Also, Vic is closer to Nika than to Maja, Summer and Nami might as well be twins...

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Blue is by far the most common eye colour in the Oveanverse. A couple of characters (Miru and Helen, for example) have grey or blue/grey eyes. However, those with hazel/yellow/green stand out from the rest.

So, looking at some of those with hazel/yellow/green eyes:

Leia, whereas Katie has blue eyes, William is kinda half-and-half
Victoria, whereas Maja has blue eyes
Nika, whereas Nami has blue eyes

...and you're right. Different lighting in different renders makes it hard to judge eye colours singularly. It's hard to find a well-lit render of WIAB William, for example. However, I looked at multiple renders while compiling my previous post, and selected ones that more-or-less clearly illustrated eye colour.

 

[John972]

Everyone, as you know, ZPR stands for Zane, Petrova and Revera families. We know a little about Zane and the Petrovas, but we don't know much about the Revera family. When Nika goes to Vic's house, she is talking to Mila in the kitchen. While Nika and Mila are talking there, Nika asks her about the Revera family. Mila also tells him, "There is someone with that name in the first team." Is the first team he is talking about here the women's team or the men's team? If it is a men's team, who is the potential member of the Revera family? Could it be Dwight? Because we saw Dwight and Sasha together on the first day of school. Or could it be Aziz? Because the conversation between Aziz and his mother at the pizzeria felt a little suspicious. Are there any theories regarding this?

We kinda assume the Revera in the basketball first team may be the progeny of Donna Revera from WIAB. Molly, Aziz's mother, is definitely not Donna Rivera.

 

[John972]

Men's team or women's team? As for the men's team, are there any name theories? "There may be a person named X".

It's not explicitly stated which team.

If it's the men's team and the mother/father were both white, then it's either Dwight or Jake. Otherwise Jazz, Dex, and Larry are also contenders. Of course, we haven't met the female first team yet and we don't know if there's more male players we haven't seen.

We don't know Dwight's relationship to Sasha - could he be her brother (i.e. a Petrova) or a Revera?

 

[BobTheDuck]

Blue is by far the most common eye colour in the Oveanverse. A couple of characters (Miru and Helen, for example) have grey or blue/grey eyes. However, those with hazel/yellow/green stand out from the rest.

So, looking at some of those with hazel/yellow/green eyes:

Leia, whereas Katie has blue eyes, William is kinda half-and-half
Victoria, whereas Maja has blue eyes
Nika, whereas Nami has blue eyes

...and you're right. Different lighting in different renders makes it hard to judge eye colours singularly. It's hard to find a well-lit render of WIAB William, for example. However, I looked at multiple renders while compiling my previous post, and selected ones that more-or-less clearly illustrated eye colour.

I went down the rabbit hole regards William's eyes, the right eye is blue consistently, and the left is hazel/green/flecks of brown, depending on the lighting.

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So my thought about the green hazel thing - it's not a Zane trait, Dylan and Leia (and half of WIlliam) are the only Zane's to really have it, wihile Katie, Scarlet, Helen, Kat and half of William are blue. And there are quite a few hazel eyed people with no relation whatsoever.

We kinda assume the Revera in the basketball first team may be the progeny of Donna Revera from WIAB. Molly, Aziz's mother, is definitely not Donna Rivera.

Very true, we also don't know if Donna has any brothers, or how big the Revera family is. Assuming she's unmarried in WiaB, any Revera would most likely have to be her brother's child to have the Revera name. Jazz is unlikely to be the Revera, and we're assuming Dwight isn't. Jake with the ponytail maybe? Aziz seems the most likely of what we've seen to be an important character, as well as having some trouble in his background. Edit: I saw you mentioned the same things while I was longwinded with the eyes thing.

 

[John972]

So my thought about the green hazel thing - it's not a Zane trait, Dylan and Leia (and half of WIlliam) are the only Zane's to really have it, wihile Katie, Scarlet, Helen, Kat and half of William are blue. And there are quite a few hazel eyed people with no relation whatsoever.

I kinda work on the unofficial WIAB canon that William, Leia, and Katie are siblings and Dylan and Helen are their parents. So, when I say the hazel/green/yellow is a Zane trait, it comes from Dylan's family line. Leia has Dylan's eye colour, Katie has Helen's, and William has a bit of both... I'm not saying that's how genetics work, 'just that it may be a plot device.

Off the cuff, I can no longer remember if Joe is related to Dylan, making Scarlet an auntie and Katerina a cousin. Joe does appear in the old WIAB, 'can't remember his eye colour.

 

[Krytax123]

I kinda work on the unofficial WIAB canon that William, Leia, and Katie are siblings and Dylan and Helen are their parents. So, when I say the hazel/green/yellow is a Zane trait, it comes from Dylan's family line. Leia has Dylan's eye colour, Katie has Helen's, and William has a bit of both... I'm not saying that's how genetics work, 'just that it may be a plot device.

Off the cuff, I can no longer remember if Joe is related to Dylan, making Scarlet an auntie and Katerina a cousin. Joe does appear in the old WIAB, 'can't remember his eye colour.

Yeah in Wiab Joe is the uncle (not blood-related), Scarlet is Helen's sister. Thats probably the reason why Leia took over the drug network (family buisness).

 

[BobTheDuck]

I kinda work on the unofficial WIAB canon that William, Leia, and Katie are siblings and Dylan and Helen are their parents. So, when I say the hazel/green/yellow is a Zane trait, it comes from Dylan's family line. Leia has Dylan's eye colour, Katie has Helen's, and William has a bit of both... I'm not saying that's how genetics work, 'just that it may be a plot device.

Off the cuff, I can no longer remember if Joe is related to Dylan, making Scarlet an auntie and Katerina a cousin. Joe does appear in the old WIAB, 'can't remember his eye colour.

In that sense it is the family trait, but the wider Zane clan is the matriachal side genetically, so to some extent, the hazel/green is still the odd one out - there's more of it in the Von Halen's genetics by the look of it. In the old WiaB Joe's eyes were really blue, and Lucas was kinda between hazel and grey, hard to tell - his face is very forgettable.

Yeah in Wiab Joe is the uncle (not blood-related), Scarlet is Helen's sister. Thats probably the reason why Leia took over the drug network (family buisness).

That was the way I understood it too. I'm presuming Fred is Joe's brother, and that's the connection to the barn, why they were hanging out there as kids.

 

[Garen]

Am I the only one that thinks Ayua looks worse now?

Nope.

CH3 Ayua was super hot. Her model has become "better" in 3.5 but before that she had the right blend of fantasy and reality to her appearance.

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Ayua and Mila's changes were the most jarring but Mila has since been fixed.
Sadly, we're not getting old Ayua back. Tube-top Ayua was peak.

 

[doctorFolderu]

Is Nami solo route bugged?