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Don't forget, it's Leia and Willi's derrogatory nickname for Katie, and what Leia calles her new girls that she pimps out in WiaB. So Summer is either a ZaneI'm not a native English speaker, but that term bibi is pretty weird, but considering that it was an affectionate nickname that nami gave nika, I guess it doesn't matter much.
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it seems that marla learned to use shang tsung's technique of stealing youth.
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I would find funny if a former whore looked down on a tenant of a doctor, so far as calling him trash, while using the term that her pimp called her with her daughter. It is so fucked up that I can't not laugh.
That said, is not impossible. Just as Summer being a Zane is not, but both seems very unlikely in my mind. I think Nika would remember if that was the case.
But I agree that the term is an indication that someone has an involvement with the Zanes. We do not know who is mimicking who here, Summer or Nika. The Zanes could be friends of Summer family or of Nika's family, if Nika is not a Zane himself.
Either way the trio using the word implies that one of them had some sort of contact with the characters of WiaB
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A couple of things:
- we know it's not in common usage, and that only the Zane's seemed to use it, because Leia's employees thought it was weird.
- If it's not common, how did Summer pick it up? From Nika, or was it the other way? Was Nika's mom one of Leia's workers? Very plausible, but goes against some favoured theories about things. Would explain why Summer's parents thought Nika was trash.
- I have friends from certain ethnic backgrounds that trash talk their own family with racist slurs. It's okay from the inside it seems.
- Leia's workers were to seduce/comfort the high rollers. Easy chance for a gold digger to make good, and be prickly about their past.
And yeah, not committing to anything other than it's a pretty small subset of people in WiaB using this word, so it's presence in SG relates to how it exists in WiaB.
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I don't think bibi is always derogatory
- Summer uses it affectionately in the note she left Nika (I think)
- William uses it when he says he loves Katie "bibi sister" (little sister)
So Nika is the bastard of some Wollust big shot, it would explain several oddities around Nika
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There's the bit when Summer's playing basketball, she uses it to deride Nika as incompetent, Leia and William teasing Katie with the bibi dinosaur, because she's not grownup like them
so she gets the shitty toy. It's not 100% derrogatory, but it is very often used as a put down, to make someone ...small and less important. Willi will typically give Katie backhanded compliments, prasiing her while putting her down, so I think the context I'm suggesting is fine. Leia of course is using it to put her workers in their place, they're pawns, and she's the queen.The thing about Nika is we don't know who his family is, and I suspect it'll be one of the longest kept secrets in Ocean's games, with HEAPS of red herrings and false trails. Ocean probably laughs himself silly about the theories we come up with to fill in the time between updates - if you've been on his discord, he plays with people's ideas, seeming to give support, but really trolling people with their own theories. He's not going to give that up for a while.
Nicky and Nami's mother Monica from WIAB. It seems that this is already clear from WIAB. Leah encourages Willie to seduce Monica. Ni offers William an apartment in Monica's house. So there is a 90% chance that Monica will be Nicky's mother. Nami has most likely already been born.
Based on this, there are the following associations.
William - Nicky
Leah - Summer/Sasha.
Katie - Nami
Ben - Dylan
Helen - Monica.
WELL and... Miru - Victoria
The older generation characters are duplicated by the younger generation characters.
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Probably explains some of his rewrites when people guess right like Robert Jordan did in the Wheel of Time when fans guessed Taim was Demandred
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Lads i need some music recommendations with the same vibe as the ones in the game. Preferably something niche, i love all of the Late Kids' tracks.
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Counter theory, Ocean wants to show that deep down she's still human
Sasha is a pimp ?
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And a drug dealer. Tony Montana - Sasha
By the way, Summer is not Sasha, but Marla. It's as clear as day.
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Nah it's not that. Summer isn't gone, she time traveled to the past. We will probably meet her in WiAB. Anyway, she lived through until the beginning of the SG and deliberately ran over Vic to save the MC, her teenage crush.
Possible the new Marla is like 30 years younger
By the way, it is possible that she is her own mother. But this is not certain.
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Summer's Gone...and so are all of you
, oh dear...
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Yeah, this theory still triggers TGK, but in time he will get used to it, just like Ocean.
You see, he made the first step:
