VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Mamaragan]

They're not aaaaaaaa

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Maybe it's completely and Oedipus thing, Nika was prophesied to topple his father's empire, so he was left on a mountainside in a cabin where Noji could find him and raise him....

Nah! The prophecy only mentioned a shitty hairstyle, for William it was enough

 

[BobTheDuck]

The problem is that it can't land on one side of the fence, so either Ocean keeps the ambitiousness all the way till the end or he has a hell of a ace up his sleeve to make it all make sense. Because is hard to guess Ocean can't say for forces outside of his power and what he can't say because is not the right moment for the story and so everybody interpretations is just as valid.

Cheese is good, Nika being William son in cheese as hell but being cheese does not make it bad. I think that there is good potential there and see the two different personality clash in a father and son dynamics seems pretty interesting to me. About jerk William... I don't think a good William can survive WiaB, he may repair his relationship at cost of others, but I can see a happy end for SG I don't think that there will anything but bittersweetness for WIAB

What I mean by jerk William, is Ayua is looked after, but he doesn't raise a son. There's a whole bunch of half sisters that are Zanes. So both William and Leia and/or Katie hav been breeding, and obviously WIlliam and Leia have kept the Zane name regardless of who they really are. So if he abandons Nika, while looking after the others, it's pretty odd. But they Nika has the cool uncle who teaches him basketball. I'm wondering, what if Dylan is Nami's father (redhead) and William is Nika's dad? Dylan's not William's dad though. Just a random thought I haven't really thought through, but it shows there are endless combinations of possibilities if we stop trying to make the story go in one direction - Ocean has plenty of ways to surprise us. Ocean's job is to tell a good story that is captivating, not pander to expectations. I'd suggest the more he can through curveballs that catch us off guard, the better. It's not about compromise; SG has already left the dark theme behind, the question is, will Ocean write something that keeps us engaged? To some extent, Nika being a Zane is very pedestrian.

Maybe Nika is the unknown wild oats - like what happened with Mon, and Noji found out. Maybe Ocean's keeping it open because it's determined by your WiaB save in the future. At this point, Nika could be a virgin birth for all we know

 

[Mamaragan]

What I mean by jerk William, is Ayua is looked after, but he doesn't raise a son. There's a whole bunch of half sisters that are Zanes. So both William and Leia and/or Katie hav been breeding, and obviously WIlliam and Leia have kept the Zane name regardless of who they really are. So if he abandons Nika, while looking after the others, it's pretty odd. But they Nika has the cool uncle who teaches him basketball. I'm wondering, what if Dylan is Nami's father (redhead) and William is Nika's dad? Dylan's not William's dad though. Just a random thought I haven't really thought through, but it shows there are endless combinations of possibilities if we stop trying to make the story go in one direction - Ocean has plenty of ways to surprise us. Ocean's job is to tell a good story that is captivating, not pander to expectations. I'd suggest the more he can through curveballs that catch us off guard, the better. It's not about compromise; SG has already left the dark theme behind, the question is, will Ocean write something that keeps us engaged? To some extent, Nika being a Zane is very pedestrian.

Maybe Nika is the unknown wild oats - like what happened with Mon, and Noji found out. Maybe Ocean's keeping it open because it's determined by your WiaB save in the future. At this point, Nika could be a virgin birth for all we know

MC being a Zane, the theory I have read is that MC is the son of William and leia, but was given to Nojiko in secret in order to protect him from something. Considering How WIAB is going to unfold, that's a possibility. But boy, I hope that MC is not related to the Zane or any big family. I believe that this approach is the most convenient when it comes to writing. "Look, the MC was always special all along!"

 

[Adhdclassic]

I feel the Nika and Nami are not from any of the main houses. Most likely they might be a part of a dead house. They were friends with one of the main houses. Just hard to believe the head houses especially the Zanes who would leave blood struggling. Especially William and Leia.

 

[LHDLLB]

What I mean by jerk William, is Ayua is looked after, but he doesn't raise a son. There's a whole bunch of half sisters that are Zanes. So both William and Leia and/or Katie hav been breeding, and obviously WIlliam and Leia have kept the Zane name regardless of who they really are. So if he abandons Nika, while looking after the others, it's pretty odd. But they Nika has the cool uncle who teaches him basketball. I'm wondering, what if Dylan is Nami's father (redhead) and William is Nika's dad? Dylan's not William's dad though. Just a random thought I haven't really thought through, but it shows there are endless combinations of possibilities if we stop trying to make the story go in one direction - Ocean has plenty of ways to surprise us. Ocean's job is to tell a good story that is captivating, not pander to expectations. I'd suggest the more he can through curveballs that catch us off guard, the better. It's not about compromise; SG has already left the dark theme behind, the question is, will Ocean write something that keeps us engaged? To some extent, Nika being a Zane is very pedestrian.

Maybe Nika is the unknown wild oats - like what happened with Mon, and Noji found out. Maybe Ocean's keeping it open because it's determined by your WiaB save in the future. At this point, Nika could be a virgin birth for all we know

Oh, I understand now what you mean. It would required a explanation, a reason as to why Nami and Nika are raised apart from the familiy, maybe their mother did not wanted to grow up around the Zanes - makes perfect sense to me - and William respected hers decision, don't think that it makes William a jerk, none father of the year for sure, but if he has a good enough reason I don't see a problem. I am not trying to push the story in anyway, am not saying that it needs to be this way or another, Ocean will tells his story, I just happen to like some theories more than others with the information that we have now. But I get you, Nika being William son is too obvious, too easy and somewhat of a letting down on the mystery, but I am fine with that, not because is something that I want but because simpler does not equals boring, as much as I like twist and turns plot twists and all that often I think that a good simpler story more engaging that one who tries to surprise you at every turn. As long as it is good cheese I don't mind it.

I like the idea of the wild oat and that Dylan could be Nami 's father or Nika's, less sure about a virgin, don't think that there will be one by the time WIAB ends. But given Katie at the book club some connection between them and the Zanes has to exist as to the nature of that connection, we will have to wait and see.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I feel the Nika and Nami are not from any of the main houses. Most likely they might be a part of a dead house. They were friends with one of the main houses. Just hard to believe the head houses especially the Zanes who would leave blood struggling. Especially William and Leia.

The fact that we talk about them as if they were ancient noble families does not make hiding one or two "embarrassing" children unlikely.

 

[vampires69'in]

The fact that we talk about them as if they were ancient noble families does not make hiding one or two "embarrassing" children unlikely.

Ah....the real reason for a "LandLady" title

 

[BobTheDuck]

The fact that we talk about them as if they were ancient noble families does not make hiding one or two "embarrassing" children unlikely.

This is why I'm thinking Dylan as Nami's dad - he's got to find other ways while Helen's witholding. He could easily have a one night stand with someone, and doesn't even know he's a dad again. That would make Nami Katie's long lost sister. Nami's 19, could easily be a WiaB baby, while the others are probably too young.

I guess what I'm thinking here is the common theories are "Hero McGigachad births a dynasty, and Nika is the heir, woooo!" and they're obscuring other potential paths that might reveal cooler stories. Katie says hi to Nika, but takes more time (it appears) talking with Nami. She had no guess to know Nika would be there, because that was last minute, but Nami was already comfirned to join I think. Nika gatecrashed, so maybe his parent's aren't actually the interesting ones, but Nami's are.

 

[Adhdclassic]

The fact that we talk about them as if they were ancient noble families does not make hiding one or two "embarrassing" children unlikely.

But if they were noble houses would there animal be a Racoon instead of a direwolf or dragon

 

[Winterstale]

I roll with it for sanity sakes, lol. And I haven't even been a part of this forum discussion or played the game as long as you guys, lol. Even with all the oddities, the landlady, roomie one fucks me up the most still . And I really want to see that Ayua sparring session ;/

You’re definitely not the only one lost in this mess. I mean, I was scratching my head over that whole "landlady" nonsense at the start (bless my naïve little soul). Luckily, we’ve got some real saints around here to break down the who’s, what’s, and why’s

To be frank, I’m just relieved I didn’t stumble onto this game from day one. I can’t even wrap my head around how the old-timers have stuck it out through all the updates, reworks, and random changes, just nodding along like, "Sure, why not? Let's roll with it"

 

[BobTheDuck]

But if they were noble houses would there animal be a Racoon instead of a direwolf or dragon

Nah the snake. It's already on the uniforms.

 

[LHDLLB]

But if they were noble houses would there animal be a Racoon instead of a direwolf or dragon

Nah, it would be a wormy.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Ah....the real reason for a "LandLady" title

I call Amber as my landlady

 

[Adhdclassic]

Oh and for WIAB I call Helen as my landlady

 

[vampires69'in]

But if they were noble houses would there animal be a Racoon instead of a direwolf or dragon

that damned hellcat takes that spot, lol. And I don't mean Bella this time. I mean Siegbert lol.at least I think that's his name.

 

[vampires69'in]

I call Amber as my landlady

She could certainly be my landlady anyday . But like a real one, I have lovely sensual wholesome sexy times with lol

 

[vampires69'in]

You’re definitely not the only one lost in this mess. I mean, I was scratching my head over that whole "landlady" nonsense at the start (bless my naïve little soul). Luckily, we’ve got some real saints around here to break down the who’s, what’s, and why’s

To be frank, I’m just relieved I didn’t stumble onto this game from day one. I can’t even wrap my head around how the old-timers have stuck it out through all the updates, reworks, and random changes, just nodding along like, "Sure, why not? Let's roll with it"

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yeah, I just wasn't giving that Landlady ,roomie shit a pass lol. Especially with this.....
why be alarmed at that if they were simple "roommates"nope nope nope. Nothing is concrete,but something's I can't let fully slide and just use turn your brain-off logic lol.

 

[Guz007]

that damned hellcat takes that spot, lol. And I don't mean Bella this time. I mean Siegbert lol.at least I think that's his name. View attachment 4020710

what is this and from where?

 

[Talmadge]

what is this and from where?

If you go with Bella to the neighbors house, you get accosted by their cat. Someone just made the eyes glow bright red in this shot from the game.