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LHDLLB

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Original intent is lost, along with the old WiaB and the old SG. The assumed original intent is not the current intent or the future intnet. To wonder what might be which won't happen because of the ToS Ocean needs to stick to won't persuade the people Ocean needs to keep onboard. Nothing needs to change in the scrip we hae of SG fro Sasha to simply be a Petrova. For her to be part Zane, Ocean will need to change the script and potentially add in plot lines in 2030 of SG Season 1 right up to wherever he gets to by the time Wiab Is published. And the same for all the other potential crossover choices. I don't think that's a useful way for Ocean to spend time.

Of SG, what prevents Bella, Elsa, Mila, Nadia, Nia, Vanessa, or Zara from being William's wild oats (or Leia's genes)? The only thing is who Nika's daddy might be. Of these we know nothing for certain. If any of them were Leia's, it's still the same situation. The Frohns, Sonya, Amber, Marla are the only ones definitely not.

The only problem is technical in regard to whether it's too much work to transfer WiaB saves meaningfully. Season to season makes sense, because Ocean hasn't developed the subsequent seasons before so it can be implemented on the fly, in an almost linear fashion. Then SG will eventually be done, and it's save can easily be ported to the next game. THe technical issue is that WiaB won't befinished before we're in the third season of SG, which will bake a lot of things into our memories.

I'm honestly not certain about who is or isn't a Zane via sticky tryst. WiaB will clear up a lot of things for SG once we find out those bits of knowledge regarding the new thrust.

Oh I fully agree about intent, my point was that SG might have suffered more changes than we know off. Regarding time and useful of time, I fully agree, this is my whole point as to why Sasha might be so problematic. Either she breaches ToS, or to explain her requires further working around. Even if Nika is not a Zane, the fact she is the daughter of a ( potentiality )LI of WiaB make Ocean have to account two variables one in with she is William's daughter and one with she is not. Because if Elena is a LI with we can enter a relationship and Ocean gives the option to import save, having Sasha being somebody else child does not make much sense. More easy is Elena is not a LI anymore, possible but personally I find unlikely, thus Sasha can be anyone child or Sasha is Zane depending on players choice. The ToS thing is just another problem, that hinges not in Sasha but in Nika, Sasha problem is that of possibilites, she might be just as well as she might no be. I only bring it up because the port save idea.

Nothing, outside that we don't know enough to confirm or deny it. We only know of Sasha. But again if we look at those options, give only what we know off, not think crazy scenarios. Nia has problems with her family because she is a camgirl, would William be mad at her because of it when we can encourage Miru to do porn ? Bella, not impossible but would she have such good relationships with Ayua ? Or more would not have a even deeper one if Ayua was her half sister ? Zara and Vanessa, is possible, Nick was cucked by William and raised his children... but it has as much evidence in favor of this idea as there is against. Elsa, sometimes I forgot that she even is a LI, that depends on a lot that we have no clue off 50/50. Mila is a stronger one if her mother was one of Leia's workers, Nadia similar case as Elsa, would say a little more only because she studies at ZPR.

I see the technical issue just as well, don't have a clue how Ocean will handle that, but as SG is ahead not only in the game timeline but in developing I feel that any decision made in WiaB that is transfered to SG will retroactive change the it. Sure nobody can be, but this started with we saying that the chances are that we have less William wild oats than we might think and I agree. Going back to WiaB and based on some of the OG, my guesses based on what we know is: Ayua and her sisters, Sasha and the Revera, think any other character we don't have enough evidence to make a case off.
 

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Honestly, I don't think so. The first time we see purple ribbons around the necks of three girls protesting for ''Free Boobs Movment'', but from Nami's words we know there are more of them. Then one of the three later comes to us in the cafeteria asking if we're interested in acting lessons. The girl with the tattoo on her back in the library that you mentioned earlier also wears it, and one of the viewers of the show with handcuffs. It's a pity we can't ask Maya if she has such a ribbon
You are right, I may be mixing things up. Maybe the camgirl that work at the cafeteria uses one ? But you are right it seems to be a free the nipple thing.
 
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LHDLLB

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Allow me to interject, once again, to remind you that as far as we know Ayua is a Zane and neither William nor Miru are Zanes. Therefore continuing to assume that Ayua is Miru and Willi's daughter is unwise given the info we currently have.
You are absolutely right. Given know information William is not Zane, nor by blood nor by law. Kinda pointless discussion is it not ?
 

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The problem I have with the 2 series is SG is somewhat further along than WIAB. It leaves us lacking whose kid is whose. Due to WIAB has basically just started we are assuming the people we know of are these people's kids. When WIAB returns we will be introduced to new people I'm sure. A lot of the answers will be answered. Know it's too late to say it and it has been said before Ocean should have dealt with one at a time.
 

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Allow me to interject, once again, to remind you that as far as we know Ayua is a Zane and neither William nor Miru are Zanes. Therefore continuing to assume that Ayua is Miru and Willi's daughter is unwise given the info we currently have.
Actually, we don't know that, only that Leia is his only relative. It's entirely possible Ocean has created multidimensional hulahoops to do a song and dance while he jumps through them. :HideThePain:

Aside from wanting to play all the new fun things (and stare at Katie) in ch4, I basically want to see WHAT he does with the change. I still think it was way too big a bombshell to drop without clarity or explanation. BUt Ocean owes me nothing. CH4 will be a very useful and revealing update. ANd significant Katie in both games, I can totally deal with that.
 

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You are absolutely right. Given know information William is not Zane, nor by blood nor by law. Kinda pointless discussion is it not ?
Not entirely pointless. I still enjoy reading the theories and discussions. I just think we should generally avoid speaking in absolutes when it comes to Oceans games because we all know that nothing is set in stone and everything is subject to change at any moment.

I also always assumed Auya to be Willi and Miru's child but considering what Ocean stated in that memorable devlog, that is probably not true. And this is assuming the world of Wollust plays by the same rules we do in the real world. For all we know the families in the game could work as clans and the processes of adoption, guardianship and legal identification could all be different from what we know.
 

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Okay guys, which one of you did this. :Kappa:
It wasn't me but damn I'm guilty as hell after watching that :coffee::sneaky:

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Guilty as charged. Todd the Vegan is probably a Sasha simp.

Hey guys !!
There is a compilation with of all the previews for next season ?
Search the thread for devlogs (with a space between the two words) and collect. Some older logs might be missing previews if they were hot linked rather than uploaded. Every two weeks, come back and harvest the new ones kindly donated to the thread. :)
 
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Moreover, Sasha clearly doesn't trust Nika, so she kept her eyes on him, making sure he didn't do anything while drunk Ayua was throwing herself at him.
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I remember what I was thinking at the bar scene where Dwight eventually threw drunk Ayua over his shoulder and left the bar just after Sasha gave him a look, didn't even have to say anything. I thought, they look and act like a brother and a sister. And some time ago someone else also mentioned here in this thread that Dwight might be Sasha's brother.

Now I'm unable to think anything else about their relationship. They did look like they knew each other really well and they seemed close enough to do favors for each other without asking. And they are obviously close enough to read each others thoughts from a mere look in some situations - as the one with Ayua getting drunk (possibly not the first time when Dwight had to drag her drunk ass home). They were sitting side-by-side, but not close enough to be a couple and way too close for Dwight to be her bodyguard or some kind of sub-ordinate. Which would also be weird, since they're both students.
They looked and acted like two siblings at a bar table.
Yeah, I've oddly never
We lost a mother and a sister. And in return we got a landlady and a roommate.:KEK:
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Not entirely pointless. I still enjoy reading the theories and discussions. I just think we should generally avoid speaking in absolutes when it comes to Oceans games because we all know that nothing is set in stone and everything is subject to change at any moment.

I also always assumed Auya to be Willi and Miru's child but considering what Ocean stated in that memorable devlog, that is probably not true. And this is assuming the world of Wollust plays by the same rules we do in the real world. For all we know the families in the game could work as clans and the processes of adoption, guardianship and legal identification could all be different from what we know.
since ch 3 wiab i am absolutely sure that ayua's biological mother is Ri Ri from leia's club
Apparently in WIAB something is supposed to happen with Ri Ri and Leia will adopt Ayua. Thus Ayua becomes Zayn.
 

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since ch 3 wiab i am absolutely sure that ayua's biological mother is Ri Ri from leia's club
Apparently in WIAB something is supposed to happen with Ri Ri and Leia will adopt Ayua. Thus Ayua becomes Zayn.
You know that Leia might not actually be a Zane any more, based on Ocean's big change mentioned in WiaB? I personally think he'll keep the names, but we'll have to wait until Ch4 is revealed to know how he's dealing with it, and quite possibly there will be parts of the first three chapters changed to accomodate.
 
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You know that Leia might not actually be a Zane any more, based on Ocean's big change mentioned in WiaB? I personally think he'll keep the names, but we'll have to wait until Ch4 is revealed to know how he's dealing with it, and quite possibly there will be parts of the first three chapters changed to accomodate.
I think you misunderstood him. I wrote on 06/24/2024 that Willie and Leah are not Dylan's biological children. Helen cheated on him and gave birth to twins from this betrayal. But this does not mean that they are not Zanes. Dylan recognized them as his children and gave them his last name.
But in this game, the bloodline is extremely important: the bloodline of the Zanes and the bloodline of their enemy - the father of the twins.
 

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I think you misunderstood him. I wrote on 06/24/2024 that Willie and Leah are not Dylan's biological children. Helen cheated on him and gave birth to twins from this betrayal. But this does not mean that they are not Zanes. Dylan recognized them as his children and gave them his last name.
But in this game, the bloodline is extremely important: the bloodline of the Zanes and the bloodline of their enemy - the father of the twins.
Ocean said in July that Helen isn't related to William or Leia either.
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Ocean said in July that Helen isn't related to William or Leia either.
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But we still don't know what Ocean meant, he could be referring to the vanilla version so now Leia is officially the twin and no longer an LI or that Willy and Leia are adopted/in the custody of the Zaines
 
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